Winseer:
More evidence that “managed motorways” actually need to be managed by the main users of them - rather than the far-away suits that couldn’t be arsed to dig an extra lane and call that the new decicated hard shoulder - which is supposed to be for emergency use only after all. Surely spending millions extra just to save a single life is worth it?
Am I really only speculating when faced with a lot more accidents in the “managed” bits?
Even if the system itself is flawless - the public’s use of them is far less so. It’s always going to be easier to make some fancy idea work on paper - than with actual real people.
Who drives through red 'x’s? Who doesn’t actually slow down to less than 40 when the gantries say “20”?
Who is reluctant to get into the right hand coning-off lane “early” because it’s normally illegal for a truck to be in that lane?
Who drives on the motorways “on the limiter” in fog or on the singled-down carriageway through the cones?
As to the argos driver - he managed some third party risk in a “Judgement Call” manner - and I applaud it.
Too many people acting on their own initiative so often get slagged off for it though - don’t they?
Winseer mate give this managed M.way ■■■■■■■■ a rest ffs I take note that you did not answer the ■■■■ storm that came down on you on the other thread when you were proved to be in a minority, so why start all this b/s on another rather than face up to criticism.
I get the basics, I was also luckily not killed when a prick in an allegro hit the ambulance which my dad was in years ago this was despite it being clear with rangerovers ambulances etc in attendance.
needless to say the car came off worse but the basics are this, a 14 foot tall hgv is far easier to see from a distance that it is stopped over a punto or the likes, in this instance size does matter and it is easier to spot. as the woman said cars were swerving around her as she was trying to get her children out.
but no he was just a ■■■ trying to get a bit of press in your eyes ffs
Winseer:
More evidence that “managed motorways” actually need to be managed by the main users of them - rather than the far-away suits that couldn’t be arsed to dig an extra lane and call that the new decicated hard shoulder - which is supposed to be for emergency use only after all. Surely spending millions extra just to save a single life is worth it?
Am I really only speculating when faced with a lot more accidents in the “managed” bits?
Yes you are.
Since the managed motorways were first introduced in this country back in 2006 the number of accidents, injuries and deaths on those sections, both when being used as a ‘smart’ motorway or a normal motorway, have dropped. Dropped quite dramatically in some cases.
Good on the driver for showing a bit of initiative I say, If some prick is not paying attention to the road and ends up buried in the back of him, that is his look out, better than taking that lady and her kids with him.
Winseer:
More evidence that “managed motorways” actually need to be managed by the main users of them - rather than the far-away suits that couldn’t be arsed to dig an extra lane and call that the new decicated hard shoulder - which is supposed to be for emergency use only after all. Surely spending millions extra just to save a single life is worth it?
Am I really only speculating when faced with a lot more accidents in the “managed” bits?
Yes you are.
Since the managed motorways were first introduced in this country back in 2006 the number of accidents, injuries and deaths on those sections, both when being used as a ‘smart’ motorway or a normal motorway, have dropped. Dropped quite dramatically in some cases.
Don’t let facts get in the way of sweeping statements, speculation, and non grounded opinion only stated to fit an agenda though, for Christ’s sake. what are you thinking of.
Winseer:
More evidence that “managed motorways” actually need to be managed by the main users of them - rather than the far-away suits that couldn’t be arsed to dig an extra lane and call that the new decicated hard shoulder - which is supposed to be for emergency use only after all. Surely spending millions extra just to save a single life is worth it?
Am I really only speculating when faced with a lot more accidents in the “managed” bits?
Yes you are.
Since the managed motorways were first introduced in this country back in 2006 the number of accidents, injuries and deaths on those sections, both when being used as a ‘smart’ motorway or a normal motorway, have dropped. Dropped quite dramatically in some cases.
Don’t let facts get in the way of sweeping statements, speculation, and non grounded opinion only stated to fit an agenda though, for Christ’s sake. what are you thinking of.
war1974:
but no he was just a ■■■ trying to get a bit of press in your eyes ffs
Please do point out where I’ve made that statement. A car hitting 2 tons of other car will sustain less damage than a car hitting 7.5 ton plus of HGV. The woman and her child were clear of her car and there was no need for the other driver to get involved. As I said at the very start, if she had been in the car stuck then I applaud the driver for his actions.
your argument is irrelevant other than in your eyes hitting something bigger = more damage, you cant see that a large vehicle is easier to see therefore not hit (like nothing happened as per post!).
its an argument based on the type of wont someone think of the children sort, he stopped placed a bigger easier to see vehicle in front of her car and escorted her to the side of the road, no one hit it (possibly) because it was easier to see but she did state people were swerving in and out before he stopped.
its easy to not see a car from a distance a stationary truck is far more visible.
Winseer:
More evidence that “managed motorways” actually need to be managed by the main users of them - rather than the far-away suits that couldn’t be arsed to dig an extra lane and call that the new decicated hard shoulder - which is supposed to be for emergency use only after all. Surely spending millions extra just to save a single life is worth it?
Am I really only speculating when faced with a lot more accidents in the “managed” bits?
Even if the system itself is flawless - the public’s use of them is far less so. It’s always going to be easier to make some fancy idea work on paper - than with actual real people.
Who drives through red 'x’s? Who doesn’t actually slow down to less than 40 when the gantries say “20”?
Who is reluctant to get into the right hand coning-off lane “early” because it’s normally illegal for a truck to be in that lane?
Who drives on the motorways “on the limiter” in fog or on the singled-down carriageway through the cones?
As to the argos driver - he managed some third party risk in a “Judgement Call” manner - and I applaud it.
Too many people acting on their own initiative so often get slagged off for it though - don’t they?
yaaaaaaaawn
The difference is that the Argos driver doing what he did, and you choosing not to use a managed motorway properly, is he didn’t put anybody out but himself.
It was a selfless act rather than a selfish one. Professionalism you could call it…
As for what m1cks is saying about more damage, yadeeyadah… I don’t have any sympathy with anyone who collides with a broken down vehicle, regardless of which lane or shoulder it is in, because they weren’t using their eyes and brain, in conjunction with one another. All argos man did was make the obstruction more visible.
Winseer:
More evidence that “managed motorways” actually need to be managed by the main users of them - rather than the far-away suits that couldn’t be arsed to dig an extra lane and call that the new decicated hard shoulder - which is supposed to be for emergency use only after all. Surely spending millions extra just to save a single life is worth it?
Am I really only speculating when faced with a lot more accidents in the “managed” bits?
Even if the system itself is flawless - the public’s use of them is far less so. It’s always going to be easier to make some fancy idea work on paper - than with actual real people.
Who drives through red 'x’s? Who doesn’t actually slow down to less than 40 when the gantries say “20”?
Who is reluctant to get into the right hand coning-off lane “early” because it’s normally illegal for a truck to be in that lane?
Who drives on the motorways “on the limiter” in fog or on the singled-down carriageway through the cones?
As to the argos driver - he managed some third party risk in a “Judgement Call” manner - and I applaud it.
Too many people acting on their own initiative so often get slagged off for it though - don’t they?
yaaaaaaaawn
The difference is that the Argos driver doing what he did, and you choosing not to use a managed motorway properly, is he didn’t put anybody out but himself.
It was a selfless act rather than a selfish one. Professionalism you could call it…
As for what m1cks is saying about more damage, yadeeyadah… I don’t have any sympathy with anyone who collides with a broken down vehicle, regardless of which lane or shoulder it is in, because they weren’t using their eyes and brain, in conjunction with one another. All argos man did was make the obstruction more visible.
Put another way, he helped!
Well put F-reds, I agree with you,
trouble is m1cks will probably moan at Argos man now for standing in his t-shirt & not wearing a Hi-Viz as he waits 3 miles up the bank with the stranded motorist
m1cks:
While commendable I’m not so sure this was the brightest of move he could make. She was out of the car so in relative safety. Had her car have been hit by a truck then that’s what insurance is for.
But consider if it was to be hit by another car and not a truck - a car vs car would give the second driver a good chance of escaping with relatively minor injuries. If a second car was to rear end his truck instead, there would be a much higher chance of a serious injury or fatality.
If you want to help then call the police to tell them of a dangerous situation and trust them and the highways to do their job. Not only did he unnecessarily put himself in danger, he could have made a collision even more serious.
If drivers concentrated on the road in front of them many collisions could be avoided. The Argos man did what he thought was best in the circumstances and everything turned out ok.
you cant please everyone, I would have stopped personally the theory being the bigger it is the easier seen, but some would not see it what ever was there. I think that somehow some peoples brain sometimes imagines, there is a vehicle there, I should be behind it, regardless of which lane it in or whether it is stationary or not.
I take note that you did not answer the ■■■■ storm that came down on you on the other thread when you were proved to be in a minority, so why start all this b/s on another rather than face up to criticism.
