Well prepare for another week of misery overnight works all next week great joy cant wait !!!
There’s no warnings on the gantry signs other than the usual flannel.
I’d like to know in advance if the “delays” are going to be in the order of 20-30 minutes each night or 3-4 bloody hours!
I wonder if they are going to close slip roads and cone down to one lane on the ESCAPE routes as well - like they did last week… 
Winseer:
There’s no warnings on the gantry signs other than the usual flannel.I’d like to know in advance if the “delays” are going to be in the order of 20-30 minutes each night or 3-4 bloody hours!
I wonder if they are going to close slip roads and cone down to one lane on the ESCAPE routes as well - like they did last week…
Get yourself a recent TomTom with HD Traffic - it will tell you pretty much exactly how long the delays are, giving you plenty of opportunity to dive off along your preferred alternative route (and will also tell you about any delays on that route too).
I wonder why the DC get`s all the publicity? Most pinch points in the UK have similar delays, so why does the DC get all the publicity?
Here is a response from the Government from one of the petition on line .Its the best fairy story you will ever read.
The problem here is down to conflicting issues.
Conflicting issues I believe that are actively encouraged by the tunnel operators.
(1) Despite promises years ago that the tolls would eventually be removed for the purposes of making the tunnel “free” (so we thought) - they are now only switched to the “congestion charge camera log” system. APNR.
(2) “Traffic flows will be greatly improved” we were told, when concerns were raised over the new extended delays whilst the tolls were demolished.
(3) Now the new toll area is completed, we now see a wall built that has the side effect of committing traffic trying to approach from J1a in particular - to the wrong underheight tunnel, bearing in mind that there are a a few depots within a mile of the tunnel that use double deckers.
(4) “No quarter given” when a driver makes the mistake of using J1a then.
(5) Gantry signs warning that the right hand tunnel is closed are NOT being put up in time as “not to trap northbound overheight traffic” - Especially when this nasty measure of "Shutting the exit at J1a" seems to match those occasions when the “height warning” isn’t being given on gantry signs for miles around.
(6) J31-30 is closed, because there is extensive works going on there. Fair enough, but why can’t we have the approaching bottleneck as the LEFT tunnel closed, assuming that it’s to prevent four lanes going into one on the tunnel exits…?
(7) Blackwall tunnel closures should be suspended when the SOUTHbound approach is congested. Don’t close the bloody main artic escape route for southbound traffic please!
(8) Closing 29-31■■ - Leave the bloody Thurrock roads alone then! - especially that last “on slip” that comes onto the southbound carriageway just before the bridge…
(9) Petrol Tankers - Is it me, or are these drivers increasingly driving in a reckless manner? It must be some severe job and knock infection that they now seem to drive up my arse all the time when I’m trying to traverse roads around the Circus Tavern area…
(10) A406/M11 - DON’T bloody well cone it down to one lane on any nights that a diversion down the A13 is in effect. FFS Traffic jams are a total man-made thing. ThaT doesn’t mean the roadwork planners have to waste as much of every haulier’s fuel budget as possible! I wouldn’t be surprised if we hear of a few yards going ■■■■-up over the inflicted “Dartford Crossing Knock-on Losses” before long. 
M25 closures in general - need more advance warning: That is, on the incident’s actual approach roads and NOT roads that are miles away, and heading in the wrong direction for it. I’m not interested in 15’9" headroom at dartford when I’m going down the M3 towards Southampton, only to find out that J3 at Lightwater is bloody closed off on the Exit Slip! ARRRGH!.
It was back to Swanley at 6 this morning. It just never lets up lately. Seems worse than ever
OVLOV JAY:
It was back to Swanley at 6 this morning. It just never lets up lately. Seems worse than ever
Night closures all the way until April next year.
They claim to be making improvments but for the life of me i cant see what there doing to improve 30 to 31
OVLOV JAY:
It was back to Swanley at 6 this morning. It just never lets up lately. Seems worse than ever
It probably wasn’t helped by the ferry being fog-bound.
Apart from the 2nd tunnel and the bridge,the best thing they did was abolish the charge for bikes. By the time you’d faffed about taking your gloves off,hunted around for 40p,handed it over,put your gloves back on and got going,there was a queue behind you. Then they undid that bit of common sense by changing the road layout 
I’ve often wondered, what do double deckers do when going north, and only the lower tunnel is open? Do they have to go right down to somewhere like Blackfriars, or similar? Is there a signed diversion?
By the same token, what happens when the bridge is closed? Are one of the tunnels used for southbound traffic?
Why close either bridge or tunnel bore when there’s no work going on there at all, other than putting the cones out and pushing them to the side again around 5am…
There would be a measurable improvement to the economy in this country if we had some kind of “one month cone amnesty” in this country I reckon.
ezydriver:
I’ve often wondered, what do double deckers do when going north, and only the lower tunnel is open? Do they have to go right down to somewhere like Blackfriars, or similar? Is there a signed diversion?
By the same token, what happens when the bridge is closed? Are one of the tunnels used for southbound traffic?
They go the other way round the M25
They use the tall tunnel the one nearest to the bridge.
fingermissing:
ezydriver:
I’ve often wondered, what do double deckers do when going north, and only the lower tunnel is open? Do they have to go right down to somewhere like Blackfriars, or similar? Is there a signed diversion?They go the other way round the M25
So a 16ft trailer needs to go from Tonbridge to Thurrock and it has to go the other way round if the taller tunnel is closed? You’d have to love overtime to be ok with that.
ezydriver:
fingermissing:
ezydriver:
I’ve often wondered, what do double deckers do when going north, and only the lower tunnel is open? Do they have to go right down to somewhere like Blackfriars, or similar? Is there a signed diversion?They go the other way round the M25
So a 16ft trailer needs to go from Tonbridge to Thurrock and it has to go the other way round if the taller tunnel is closed? You’d have to love overtime to be ok with that.
Imagine how much the firms are losing - wasting all that extra fuel. F… the overtime! That’s not much good to anyone if your firm goes ■■■■-up by Christmas like Citilink did.
(Having said that… Needs must for me this week. 
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Does anyone know what nights this week the J7 exit on the northbound M11 is closed? - Got no warning of it last week, and had to take the 20 mile detour to Stanstead to get back to J7 southbound. 
Surely some kind of case could be made to take action about this. Not just the Dartford crossing area, but about the economic impact of road closures generally - unless, of course, it’s all part of an underhand agenda to pump money into certain sectors of the economy at the expense of the road haulage industry, or to justify the erosion of the industry in lieu of railway investment. Who knows? Is it really about the safety of the bloke (or girl) using the strimmer on the central reservation?
^^^^ that’s just it - WHAT workers with “Strimmers” or whatever?
You just see coned off miles and miles with the only think working being the blinkers on those orange lights that get skittled about by probably morrisons drivers overtaking where they shouldn’t…
As for the M25 this morning… Glad I was going the other way. Tailback from J24 all the way to Thurrock on the anticlockwise carriageway by the looks of it…