M11 overtaking ban. Used it tday & the weight limit for the outside lane painted out both north& south bound–it was there on Monday but painted out tday
still painted out, cant be vandals, its too neat lol
i noticed the gray paint on tuesday
revman:
M11 overtaking ban. Used it tday & the weight limit for the outside lane painted out both north& south bound–it was there on Monday but painted out tday
What a result, now you can all pass that lorry that’s going 0.00001km/h slower than you and get to your destination a couple of seconds quicker 
I know of a few places which have these No HGV overtaking lanes, The one on the A14 (A1/M1/M6) side is generally a pain in the rear
Shouldnt they be operating during peak periods? not the 6am to 10pm (if I recall correctly)
Apart from that, Why should cars get priority? usually its the stupid Salesman who is late for a meeting is the one who is up your rear flashing his lights etc
newmercman:
revman:
M11 overtaking ban. Used it tday & the weight limit for the outside lane painted out both north& south bound–it was there on Monday but painted out tdayWhat a result, now you can all pass that lorry that’s going 0.00001km/h slower than you and get to your destination a couple of seconds quicker
Well if the Truck being overtaken is abiding with the Highway code, Overtaking WOULD’NT be a problem, Just many SO called professional drivers seem so adamant to make life difficult for the driver overtaking
From the HIGHWAY CODE
168
Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.
169
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.
Highway Code or no Highway Code, the reason the ban was in place was because people were sick to death of being stuck behind two supertruckers drag racing from Stanstead to Cambridge 
I think there are also passages in your Highway Code that relate to ‘consideration towards other road users’ just a shame more people don’t follow those recommendations
Speed limiters have been fitted to lorries since the mid 90s, many drivers have never driven a lorry without one, yet the vast majority cannot seem to get their head around the fact that the slower lorry that they’re half way past at the brow of a hill will pick up speed going down the other side, resulting in them being stranded in the outside lane, yes it would be good practice for the slower lorry to hold it back, but then as professional lorry drivers, shouldn’t we be a bit more sympathetic to the slower loaded lorry and let him get a run at the next hill 
Pre limiter we never had that problem as you just put your foot down and got past, you could also be pretty sure that your 290hp lorry would get past a 220hp lorry, you also had a clue as to how heavy a slower lorry was by looking at the shape of the load on the (flat) trailer, but now everyone has a 400+hp lorry and a curtainsider, so who knows 
Oh dear pass the popcorn and NTSA pics
dont get too excited, i hear on local radio in the area on wed morning that the ban is coming back!! and the goverment were gonna make a crawler lane, but arnt now!!! so it wont last long
Ok, Its coming back
The heavy goods vehicle overtaking restriction, which began in April 2010 on both the northbound and southbound carriageways, means it is against the law for lorries weighing more than 7.5 tonnes to overtake another vehicle between 7am and 7pm
Again I ask, WHY in this instance 12 hours? Personally, I have never seen the M11 busy between 7am and 7pm, Maybe the ban should be 7am to 10am and then 3pm to 7pm, But NOT 12hrs solid
newmercman:
Speed limiters have been fitted to lorries since the mid 90s, many drivers have never driven a lorry without one, yet the vast majority cannot seem to get their head around the fact that the slower lorry that they’re half way past at the brow of a hill will pick up speed going down the other side, resulting in them being stranded in the outside lane, yes it would be good practice for the slower lorry to hold it back, but then as professional lorry drivers, shouldn’t we be a bit more sympathetic to the slower loaded lorry and let him get a run at the next hillIf the truck being overtaken just knocks back 1 mph, it does make a hell of a difference for the overtaking truck to pass, I for one do appreciate that a truck which is heavier will need more of a run up for the next Hill so I will usually allow for this If/when I overtake, And when being overtaken, I drop back a min of 1 mph, 1 mph if I am going up hill, tbh the worse offenders it seems to me are the heavy right foot brigade (newbies):
I appreciate the Hill arguement, But when you are on a long up hill stretch, and at the start you are doing at least a few mph more than the truck in front, and could easily overtake it, Then once you are neck and neck, the prat besides you puts their foot down, (note old type of speed limiter type which seems to make the engine hunt, maybe getting extra 2 mph for few secs) so then you are beside the prat for 2 miles, long tail back and frustrated car drivers angry at the overtaking driver doing a constant speed!!
So to get your professional guidance, Am I wrong to overtake in that situation?
PinkLadyTrucker:
I appreciate the Hill arguement, But when you are on a long up hill stretch, and at the start you are doing at least a few mph more than the truck in front, and could easily overtake it, Then once you are neck and neck, the prat besides you puts their foot down, (note old type of speed limiter type which seems to make the engine hunt, maybe getting extra 2 mph for few secs) so then you are beside the prat for 2 miles, long tail back and frustrated car drivers angry at the overtaking driver doing a constant speed!!So to get your professional guidance, Am I wrong to overtake in that situation?
My professional guidance is having a problem because you seem to be contradicting yourself, you say you could easily overtake the slower truck, yet you are then stuck alongside them, so it would appear that you couldn’t actually ‘easily’ overtake anybody not neccesarily an error on your part, as you say the other lorry could’ve accelerated with the sole purpose of drag racing you, it could also be that they’d regained the speed they lost on the hill and now you’re neck and neck, a frustrating situation for the lorry stuck out in the outside lane in either case
newmercman:
PinkLadyTrucker:
Then once you are neck and neck, the prat besides you puts their foot down,
yes very frustrating when you are committed in overtaking on a uphill section, and a prat does that, probably caus HIS pride is hurt due to a Professional Woman driver overtakes
PinkLadyTrucker:
newmercman:
PinkLadyTrucker:
Then once you are neck and neck, the prat besides you puts their foot down,yes very frustrating when you are committed in overtaking on a uphill section, and a prat does that, probably caus HIS pride is hurt due to a Professional Woman driver overtakes
I don’t doubt that you encounter the odd neanderthal as you go about your work, but really, this neck and neck thing is not based on your ■■■■■■■■■…unless you’re as as fit as a butcher’s dog and have a little mini skirt on, then I’d keep you alongside me too so I could have a good ■■■■■ and bollox to the highway code
newmercman:
I don’t doubt that you encounter the odd neanderthal as you go about your work, but really, this neck and neck thing is not based on your ■■■■■■■■■…unless you’re as as fit as a butcher’s dog and have a little mini skirt on, then I’d keep you alongside me too so I could have a good ■■■■■ and bollox to the highway code
Dam Ive been spotted lol
PinkLadyTrucker:
newmercman:
revman:
M11 overtaking ban. Used it tday & the weight limit for the outside lane painted out both north& south bound–it was there on Monday but painted out tdayWhat a result, now you can all pass that lorry that’s going 0.00001km/h slower than you and get to your destination a couple of seconds quicker
Well if the Truck being overtaken is abiding with the Highway code, Overtaking WOULD’NT be a problem, Just many SO called professional drivers seem so adamant to make life difficult for the driver overtaking
From the HIGHWAY CODE
168
Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.
169
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.
163
Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should
not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake
use your mirrors, signal when it is safe to do so, take a quick sideways glance if necessary into the blind spot area and then start to move out
not assume that you can simply follow a vehicle ahead which is overtaking; there may only be enough room for one vehicle
move quickly past the vehicle you are overtaking, once you have started to overtake. Allow plenty of room. Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in
A professional driver should planning ahead and assessing his ability to overtake another vehicle quickly as per the Highway Code. If you can’t get past quickly you shouldn’t be starting to try overtaking.
44 Tonne Ton:
A professional driver should planning ahead and assessing his ability to overtake another vehicle quickly as per the Highway Code. If you can’t get past quickly you shouldn’t be starting to try overtaking.
Agreed, and all part of what I do everyday I drive
I consider myself to be quite considerate, but when it comes down to a prat who is clearly trying to make it more difficult to overtake, and my speed has not decreased or increased in the whole process of overtaking, and then it taking 2 miles to overtake, just gets my goat, Usually if i see the que behind me get more than 2 / 3 cars, or a even faster truck, I will drop back and allow them to overtake and wait for the next opportunity
newmercman:
Highway Code or no Highway Code, the reason the ban was in place was because people were sick to death of being stuck behind two supertruckers drag racing from Stanstead to CambridgeI think there are also passages in your Highway Code that relate to ‘consideration towards other road users’ just a shame more people don’t follow those recommendations
Speed limiters have been fitted to lorries since the mid 90s, many drivers have never driven a lorry without one, yet the vast majority cannot seem to get their head around the fact that the slower lorry that they’re half way past at the brow of a hill will pick up speed going down the other side, resulting in them being stranded in the outside lane, yes it would be good practice for the slower lorry to hold it back, but then as professional lorry drivers, shouldn’t we be a bit more sympathetic to the slower loaded lorry and let him get a run at the next hill
Pre limiter we never had that problem as you just put your foot down and got past, you could also be pretty sure that your 290hp lorry would get past a 220hp lorry, you also had a clue as to how heavy a slower lorry was by looking at the shape of the load on the (flat) trailer, but now everyone has a 400+hp lorry and a curtainsider, so who knows
I couldn’t agree more with all of that, except my Leyland 680 wouldn’t normally pass much on a hill and nothing at all at its 55mph top speed.
There is a certain amount of skill involved when overtaking promptly.
There is no skill whatsoever in setting the cruise control to flat out and simply sitting next to another truck for mile after mile, whether it is to your left or your right.
It costs nothing to slow down and although many will not understand this, there is no shame in the fact that your truck is not quite as fast as someone else’s
Regards,
Nick.
One problem with the arguement for dropping off a few mph to help the driver overtaking you pass, is that if you have another lorry behind you they usually then try and overtake you as well as a result, thus meaning it can take a while before you get sensibly go back to your originally higher speed. In my experience anyway.
Sometimes on two lane stretches, I just get fed up with the whole overtaking fiasco and just drop down to 50, relax and let everybody else worry about overtaking. At least they can get past me quickly. In fact, if everybody did this on busy dual carriageways (where 50 is actually the limit) then there wouldn’t be any public discontent over elephant races on A roads because we’d all have the extra speed in the tank to pass a slightly slower moving truck easily.
rob22888:
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I just get fed up with the whole overtaking fiasco and just drop down to 50, relax and let everybody else worry about overtaking.
I find this to be by far the best policy on the daytime M25.
Hopefully, I will then only be a witness to the nose to tail shunts.
It’s worked so far…
Regards,
Nick.