85 miles is doable on a ten
Juddian your missing the point no one is saying race about like looneys and run to the last minute but likewise don’t take the ■■■■
if it take 12 hours to do a 10 hour job who looses out not the driver
10 drivers robbin 1 hour a day = another wage, this industry is not awash with money anymore
If the job takes 12 hours it was never a 10 hour job in the first place, we aint driving buses keeping to timetables, we’re driving lorries on roads with constantly changing conditions.
The job takes as long as it takes, there will always be billy whizzes who knock jobs that take 12 hours off in 10 regularly but without fail sooner or later they ■■■■■■■■ up big time, every depot has them, they clock on at 4am and they’re going out the gate 5 minutes later with a vehicle thats been used by someone else before, they never check the oil or the bulbs they never clean the windows and they sure hell wouldn’t be able to find the wash bay let alone work out how to use the thing, if there was an axle missing from the trailer they wouldn’t have noticed.
They haven’t got two minutes on the road, jammed up the arse of the vehicle in front, carving people up, flat out up to junctions and then standing on the brakes, rinse and repeat for every junction on the route, they are in a constant fretting state in case they get held up, they take short cuts with procedures which may not matter when its a back on the bay job but it sure bloody is when its a specialised job, they are accidents waiting to happen and given them enough time they’ll come back with umpteen £thousands worth of damage to the vehicle, even f its just ripping the side out on a post in a desperate hurry to get in a bay.
I’ve seen these jokers by the score in my years on the job.
I’m the first to say don’t take the ■■■■, but taking 12 hours to do a job which regularly takes 12 hours isn’t taking the ■■■■, taking sickies for no decent reason is taking the ■■■■.
For the record i’m salaried so i make no money from taking my time, doing the job properly takes time, and working at a steady pace means you can last many years.
I’ve been at the other end, i know what working flat out does to drivers, i’ve been to enough funerals ta very much.
Why are you so negative ? when I said a 10 hour job I meant a 10 hour job the way you do it,
but that does not change the fact that there are drivers and hundreds of them that want to take 12 hours
you have landed yourself a cushy number (pray they don’t go bust) or get an owner driver or Eddie in
to do the job, then it wont be cushy
If it takes you 12 hours to do a 10 hour job believe me it will have been noted for the future
I couldn’t give a monkeys who operates the job, i have always taken as long as the job takes to do it properly, and i always will.
Is my job cushy? i didn’t think so, but its based on customer service not racing around trying to cram 12 hours into 10 because some wide boy has got the job by undercutting the other lot of cowboys.
So far i’ve been driving lorries like this for 41 years, setting my stall out how i wish to continue, and never have any trouble landing good jobs, maybe good employers don’t want the billy whizzes and the damage accidents and trouble which follows in their wake.
there you go again billy whizz and rushing around read my previous posts then comment.
what I am saying is there is no slack in the system anymore
SHYTOT:
there you go again billy whizz and rushing around read my previous posts then comment.
what I am saying is there is no slack in the system anymore
Yes and that is just one of the reasons all those poor people died in that bloody minibus, because the job is now so cheap that they will take literally anyone off the street, no licence? ■■■■■■ as a parrot? no problem mate, there’s the keys away you go.
Other bloke so pushed he has to spend an hour on the phone, probably trying to stay awake, daren’t stop for a coffee and have 10 mins at Watford Gap on the way down to gain a second wind, or percy the perfect pencil pusher in his pointy shoes will tick a box on his spreadsheet, is this what transport has come to in this country?
On proper jobs you are not expected to work till you drop, if your place is pressurising you just ask for a risk assessment where non stop driving for 4.5 hours has been approved by their safety officer, but don’t hold your breath.
Sound to me like you need a union mate, and soon as you can.
SHYTOT:
there you go again billy whizz and rushing around read my previous posts then comment.
what I am saying is there is no slack in the system anymore
There clearly is - which is why people get away with taking the mickey.
I do my job at my own pace. Which is slower than most. Part of that is because I’m new and not that confident. Both accidents I’ve had have been due to me putting pressure on myself to get the job done quickly and without slowing down. I’ve caused thousands of pounds worth of damage doing that and won’t rush anymore.
I now have an old phone with a payg sim for companies that want it. And I turn it off when I’m driving. So all they get when they call me is voicemail. I might turn it on when I’ve stopped - but not on break. I can no longer be harassed. If I’m given a company phone that is put on silent. I won’t be harassed and annoyed into doing the job more quickly.
I don’t intentionally drag out jobs - but there is no such thing as a 10 hour job for me. It just takes as long as it takes.
I said read my previous post then comment
the one posted at 10:12
I have no idea how old you are nor do I care, but I hope that you manage to avoid the bowel, stomach and urinary problems that are likely to trouble you if you keep on attempting to sit behind the wheel for 4.5 hrs at a stretch and then repeat the process 45 minutes later.
I have never been, nor ever will I be prepared to work for companies who attempt to dictate that I must drive for that sort of time without stopping, especially when the supposed journey time is so close to the legal maximum allowed. This is clearly encouraging driving too fast for what are likely to be prevailing weather conditions.
If you are prepared to put up with this sort of bullying all I can really say is more fool you.
Juddian it sounds like you need to retire
I am probably a lot older than you think but I don’t smoke, drink or gamble and never have
and still can do a full days work if I have to
SHYTOT:
I said read my previous post then comment
the one posted at 10:12
I read it again and my answer still stands.
There may be some days when everything goes well and that 10 hour job is indeed completed in 10 hours, but where it goes wrong is the company wants the job doing in that best possible time every day, and starts planning accordingly, so next thing you’ve got a 2 hour run or other work tacked on because that 10 hours has become the standard time, even if its a 12 hour run 2 days out of 5 and an 11 hour run the other 2.
Then the driver gets the old ■■■■■■■■ ‘well so and so can do it in that time’, to which the correct answer is well let him do it then, but instead these new drivers…which won’t last the years without problems…find themselves pressured and the result of pressure is never good.
Its fine mate, if you want to run like that, pressured and timed to the very last second, afraid to stop for a ■■■■■ or a coffee and breather in case some office boy makes a note and they remember you took the ■■■■ 
, then pray carry on.
I take my break when I need/want it. Not when the tacho or keyboard warrior tells me. If I have to stop to clear tacho I will stop again if I Need it.
I not having my 45 in a yard full of screaming reefers for example only because someone expects me to do it.
But then I am paid by the hour and that can make a difference to some.
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Juddian does it not say in that post 10 hours the way you do it ( meaning YOU )
SHYTOT:
Juddian does it not say in that post 10 hours the way you do it ( meaning YOU )
Jesus wept, its like pulling teeth.
Yes and some days that job might be comfortable in 10 hours, but only when everything goes right.
But that doesn’t mean to say that i would attempt to make it a 10 hour day every day, not as traffic or other road issues would allow such a timetable.
This will be my last answer because we are now repeating ourselves, and its boring.
Its obvious we need unions back in this industry again.
Unions what for to ■■■■ it up like every other industry they are involved in
what we need is some graffters to get this country back on its feet
cav551:
I have no idea how old you are nor do I care, but I hope that you manage to avoid the bowel, stomach and urinary problems that are likely to trouble you if you keep on attempting to sit behind the wheel for 4.5 hrs at a stretch and then repeat the process 45 minutes later.I have never been, nor ever will I be prepared to work for companies who attempt to dictate that I must drive for that sort of time without stopping
Are you saying that train drivers regularly running non stop from London to Glasgow for example are relieved from driving numerous times during the run by a spare driver in either direction ?.Or is it more a case of one driver having to get on with it for around 4 hours + continuous driving then a break on arrival at the terminal then around 4 hours + back ?.Also while I might be wrong the information suggests train drivers only require a minimum 30 min break between turn arounds.