Juddian:
Has anyone seen a pic of the rear of the AIM logistics trailer?I’m wondering if its fairly new trailer and the old style Long Vehicle reflective plates were not fitted and instead had that silly little red (pointless) reflective strip round the back doors.
They have a fairly modern fleet of trailers so certainly a possibility.
Edit ; Just seen a picture and definitely one of their newer ones .
bald bloke:
Juddian:
Has anyone seen a pic of the rear of the AIM logistics trailer?I’m wondering if its fairly new trailer and the old style Long Vehicle reflective plates were not fitted and instead had that silly little red (pointless) reflective strip round the back doors.
They have a fairly modern fleet of trailers so certainly a possibility.
Those old LV plates are seriously reflective, far better than the bit of red tape now legal 
, it’s not beyond the bounds of possibility they might have saved the carnage, quite why some box ticker has deemed a lorry newer than 2012/13 (if my memory serves) doesn’t need them i can’t fathom.
Sorry if the question has been asked (and answered) - but was the AIM guy agency?
Socketset:
Sorry if the question has been asked (and answered) - but was the AIM guy agency?
Of course not, if he’d been agency he would have done the job right regardless of how ■■■■■■ he was 
Don’t think it’s a case of not seeing it , more a case the van driver didn’t compute what he was seeing ( stationary Lorry ) until to late , then I guess the question is how did any vehicles passing in the 12 mins he was stationary in carriage way avoid colliding with aim truck , 3 ish in morn but m1 would still have traffic , how did they see it but mini bus driver didn’t , or didn’t until it was to late
tachograph:
Socketset:
Sorry if the question has been asked (and answered) - but was the AIM guy agency?Of course not, if he’d been agency he would have done the job right regardless of how ■■■■■■ he was
Can’t of been agency. The guy had turned up for a shift.
eagerbeaver:
tachograph:
Socketset:
Sorry if the question has been asked (and answered) - but was the AIM guy agency?Of course not, if he’d been agency he would have done the job right regardless of how ■■■■■■ he was
Can’t of been agency. The guy had turned up for a shift.
Yeah he didn’t let a Saturday morning shift spoil his Friday night in the pub !
In the light of this tragedy, I thought I’d look on Trucknet and see if anything had changed since I left the industry a few years ago.
It appears not.
Best move I ever made was getting away from situations like that and people like you.
Be lucky.
buses:
Carryfast:
That’s the drunk driver’s excuse out of the way.Why not a word of sympathy for the situation that the Fed Ex driver has found himself in ?.Sympathy for what?
Either driving too close to the minibus in lane 1 or driving along in lane 2 and not seeing that the minibus is in trouble way before it was to close?
The reported words of the prosecutor are that the mini bus driver attempted a lane change bringing him into conflict with the Fed Ex truck.
Are you really suggesting that you want to set an unofficial precedent of reversal of priorities because some muppet doesn’t know how to drive or the rules of the road.
There are countless similar situations in which a ‘professional driver’ is presented with the choice of either reverse the priorities,including making an emergency stop,or make an emergency lane change.Or just hope that the other driver has the sense to follow the rules because the other options are unviable,including insufficient time to stop or change direction and lanes safely.
While if you really want what you’re obviously asking for then it’s up to the rule makers to change the priorities along the lines of give way to traffic entering from a slip road,or signalling an intent to change lanes,or anticipate such a move even if they are not signalling.So then everyone knows where they stand and can change their approach accordingly.
Like many other so called ‘professionals’ and 'amateurs alike,I’m guessing that you’re probably one of those who already drives on that basis when making a lane change or entering from a slip road anyway,if not wants anarchy on the roads in the form of no system of priorities at all.
Happydaze:
In the light of this tragedy, I thought I’d look on Trucknet and see if anything had changed since I left the industry a few years ago.It appears not.
Best move I ever made was getting away from situations like that and people like you.
Be lucky.
Cheerio.
Happydaze:
In the light of this tragedy, I thought I’d look on Trucknet and see if anything had changed since I left the industry a few years ago.It appears not.
Best move I ever made was getting away from situations like that and people like you.
Be lucky.
short and sweet…gives a shout in another 5 years…toodlepip old bean…
dieseldog999:
Happydaze:
In the light of this tragedy, I thought I’d look on Trucknet and see if anything had changed since I left the industry a few years ago.It appears not.
Best move I ever made was getting away from situations like that and people like you.
Be lucky.
short and sweet…gives a shout in another 5 years…toodlepip old bean…
Perhaps happy and Dr D could set up their own forum and whinge about how awful everyone is over their handbags.
albion:
dieseldog999:
Happydaze:
In the light of this tragedy, I thought I’d look on Trucknet and see if anything had changed since I left the industry a few years ago.It appears not.
Best move I ever made was getting away from situations like that and people like you.
Be lucky.
short and sweet…gives a shout in another 5 years…toodlepip old bean…
Perhaps happy and Dr D could set up their own forum and whinge about how awful everyone is over their handbags.
The haters are out, best polish my fighting spears,they’ve been gathering dust on the dashboard for long enough.
I’ve read most of the eighteen pages and clearly at this point none of us know what exactly happened.
Quite a few people have said that if the FedEx truck was in lane two why did’nt he move over in to lane three when he saw the minibus. Maybe he could’nt?
There may well have been other vehicles involved, there could have been another vehicle alongside him. No doubt other vehicles saw this happen and may have been part of it but just did’nt stop
Also, I was talking to one of our drivers at work today about the crash. He said that there is a hardshoulder along that section. A question that nobody seems to be asking is, why was AIM stationary in lane one?
Surely if he had a mechanical fault he would have been able to coast on to the hard shoulder
I said whilst talking about this at work today, for all we know the minibus could have stopped also to see what the problem was and then FedEx hit both vehicles in lane one
RIP to all involved, this is truely one of the most awful crashes I’ve ever read about. I just hope something can be learnt from this that can hopefully save others. Some of the vehicles that we sell and that also come on for work have a breathalyser on them so you can’t even move them around the yard without blowing positive. These are coaches but why can’t trucks have them too. Yes I know there are probably way rounds it but it’s a step in the right direction
Dakota:
I’ve read most of the eighteen pages and clearly at this point none of us know what exactly happened.Quite a few people have said that if the FedEx truck was in lane two why did’nt he move over in to lane three when he saw the minibus. Maybe he could’nt?
There may well have been other vehicles involved, there could have been another vehicle alongside him. No doubt other vehicles saw this happen and may have been part of it but just did’nt stop
Also, I was talking to one of our drivers at work today about the crash. He said that there is a hardshoulder along that section. A question that nobody seems to be asking is, why was AIM stationary in lane one?
Surely if he had a mechanical fault he would have been able to coast on to the hard shoulder
I said whilst talking about this at work today, for all we know the minibus could have stopped also to see what the problem was and then FedEx hit both vehicles in lane one
RIP to all involved, this is truely one of the most awful crashes I’ve ever read about. I just hope something can be learnt from this that can hopefully save others. Some of the vehicles that we sell and that also come on for work have a breathalyser on them so you can’t even move them around the yard without blowing positive. These are coaches but why can’t trucks have them too. Yes I know there are probably way rounds it but it’s a step in the right direction
A very valid point,that seems to have been overlooked.
What I suspect is that the chief cause of the accident was a drunken eastern European who stopped in lane 1 of the motorway for a snooze, and a sleep-deprived Indian who had had less than three hours rest before setting out to take a minibus full of passengers on a long journey, but that the authorities feel that it would be in the interests of “diversity” to rope in the innocent British national who got caught up in the mess.
villa:
Another thing , I think the general public / car drivers need educating , maybe with adverts on TV , about the dangers of driving between 50 to 54 mph on the motorway , They might think they are being careful , or safer by doing that , but surely they would be much safer driving between 60 and 70 mph , Maybe a minimum speed limit of 60mph for vans and cars would help
Always thought this. Mixing it more than you have to with passing wagons is definately not as safe as passing them 56+ on your own terms.
SuperMultiBlue:
villa:
Another thing , I think the general public / car drivers need educating , maybe with adverts on TV , about the dangers of driving between 50 to 54 mph on the motorway , They might think they are being careful , or safer by doing that , but surely they would be much safer driving between 60 and 70 mph , Maybe a minimum speed limit of 60mph for vans and cars would helpAlways thought this. Mixing it more than you have to with passing wagons is definately not as safe as passing them 56+ on your own terms.
They sit at 54 'cos they’re looking to get 85 to the gallon out of their high efficiency engines. I had to have a periodic driving review a couple of years ago and the instructor had a Pug diesel and I actually (so the dash said) got 83 to the gallon out of it. Semi urban so on a drag probably better still - something to discuss at the garden centre cafe. 
Harry Monk:
What I suspect is that the chief cause of the accident was a drunken eastern European who stopped in lane 1 of the motorway for a snooze, and a sleep-deprived Indian who had had less than three hours rest before setting out to take a minibus full of passengers on a long journey, but that the authorities feel that it would be in the interests of “diversity” to rope in the innocent British national who got caught up in the mess.
class…nail on the head there.and i think the prosecutor will ensure it goes that way and not the transit drivers way.
if it shows he was to blame,then the bin lids will be getting clattered around nottingham with a few more weeks of racism hype riots thrown in.
Carryfast:
- ‘The Prosecutor said’.That the AIM vehicle was stationary in lane 1.The minibus was in the same lane and attempted to to get into the other lane to drive around the stopped AIM vehicle.
You keep saying this, show where the police/prosecutor said the minibus was in lane 1.