Lukes Top Tips (Un)Coupling

Howdy doodie people of the newbies forum, thought some of you may find this interesting. Many thanks!

http://www.lorry-driver.com/2013/03/lukes-top-tips-uncoupling.html

Nice film Luke and you make it look so easy , shame you told us not allowed to comment on your bum :wink:
oh and thanks for the tip about the brake button I drive a volvo mostly and could not find out what that button was for so just left it alone lol

jx

could always get one of these lol

A very informative video for the newbies.

Good one Luke.

Not being funny if a driver cant uncouple they shouldnt be allowed anywhere near a hgv and newbies get taught whilst training so i dont see how this helps anyone

JJ192:
Not being funny if a driver cant uncouple they shouldnt be allowed anywhere near a hgv and newbies get taught whilst training so i dont see how this helps anyone

There’s always one.

Think about those who are going for their CE but haven’t yet.

They will have an insight into what’s involved.

dar1976:

JJ192:
Not being funny if a driver cant uncouple they shouldnt be allowed anywhere near a hgv and newbies get taught whilst training so i dont see how this helps anyone

There’s always one.

Think about those who are going for their CE but haven’t yet.

They will have an insight into what’s involved.

You also don’t get to see how to split (un)couple whilst training either.

JJ192:
Not being funny if a driver cant uncouple they shouldnt be allowed anywhere near a hgv and newbies get taught whilst training so i dont see how this helps anyone

Well I was thinking about people who may have passed their test several years ago and are only just about to use it. Or got taught on a drawbar. I did, and it was 4 years before I used my licence. Along with a video about tacho rules (which is coming) this was most requested video to make so someone will be finding it useful. Thanks for your input though.

Thanks everyone else.

It’s a great video Luke and I’m sure many will find it useful. Me I just enjoyed watching it for the hell of it anyway :smiley:

switchlogic:

JJ192:
Not being funny if a driver cant uncouple they shouldnt be allowed anywhere near a hgv and newbies get taught whilst training so i dont see how this helps anyone

Well I was thinking about people who may have passed their test several years ago and are only just about to use it. Or got taught on a drawbar. I did, and it was 4 years before I used my licence. Along with a video about tacho rules (which is coming) this was most requested video to make so someone will be finding it useful. Thanks for your input though.

Thanks everyone else.

LUKE naughty always use the trailer break.

it also allows the driver to check the push rods are working on the chambers 8/10 though chap

Never have to be honest and not likely to start now. I hardly ever meet a driver that does either these days. But I did point out in the video its good practise just that I don’t do it.

Pulling the red line will still apply the brakes with the push rods.

The only real advantage to the trailer parking brake is if you’re coupling and have forgotten to set the parking brake in the cab which is easy-ish to do as if you don’t the truck won’t roll as you’ve just clicked under a trailer. Then when you get on the catwalk and connect the red susie the whole lot will start rolling you just need to stay cool and disconnect the red susie again and the trailer brakes will come on.

For the purposes of newbies a basic explanation is powerful springs hold the trailer brakes on and the pressure from the air of the red susie forces the spring off the trailer brakes. This air supply to the springs can also be turned on and off with the park brake knob located on the side of the trailer.

(There’s more to it than that and when the spring brakes are and aren’t holding the trailer are a source of debate on the main forum even amongst those who work on trailers but the red susie connected/trailer park brake knob pushed then air forces springs off trailer park brake and trailer can move and the red susie disconnected/trailer park brake knob pulled releases air and springs force trailer brake on is the best and simplest way to think about it for day to day coupling in practice)

Own Account Driver:
Pulling the red line will still apply the brakes with the push rods. if the park brake is within view of the axels you can see movement if your just droping the red line you cant. The only real advantage to the trailer parking brake is if you’re coupling and have forgotten to set the parking brake in the cab which is easy-ish to do as if you don’t the truck won’t roll as you’ve just clicked under a trailer. Then when you get on the catwalk and connect the red susie the whole lot will start rolling you just need to stay cool and disconnect the red susie again and the trailer brakes will come on.should also if you have missed (jumped) the pin without the hand brake on the trailer could crush you between the cab and trailer Best Practice TRAILER BRAKE

For the purposes of newbies a basic explanation is powerful springs hold the trailer brakes on and the pressure from the air of the red susie forces the spring off the trailer brakes. This air supply to the springs can also be turned on and off with the park brake knob located on the side of the trailer.

(There’s more to it than that and when the spring brakes are and aren’t holding the trailer are a source of debate on the main forum even amongst those who work on trailers but the red susie connected/trailer park brake knob pushed then air forces springs off trailer park brake and trailer can move and the red susie disconnected/trailer park brake knob pulled releases air and springs force trailer brake on is the best and simplest way to think about it for day to day coupling in practice)

No-one’s said it isn’t best practice.

Realistically, unless you’re split coupling, even if you missed the pin you’ll have hit something hard enough to stop the unit going back it will therefore also stop the trailer coming forward wiyh pretty much anything but a fridge the legs will hit the unit before the trailer would crush you. As you might notice often you pull the park brake knob and you don’t hear an air discharge that’s because there can sometimes be a very limited number of situations where the springs are actually applying the trailer brakes nowadays, that woukd enable you to get a view of the push rods moving but as I say that’s a more technical discussion and has the potential to cause confusion on this board.

Another point, in reality, is there are plenty of places you’ll get a mouthful from the shunter for pulling the park brake and also yards that park their trailers so tight you’d struggle to get down the side anyway.

nick2008:
[ also if you have missed (jumped) the pin without the hand brake on the trailer could crush you between the cab and trailer Best Practice TRAILER BRAKE

I did actually say that to use the trailer brake at all times is best practise and I also said that you MUST use the trailer break if split coupling. I don’t split couple, never have.

A very nice video

Little tip that was not shown …

When he was using the winding handle it looked a bit loose - like using an ‘iggly wiggly’ on a ratchet set

This can be rectified by gently slotting the winding handle back into its spigot about an inch so it forms a solid connection which makes winding easier
Push it in too hard and, as was shown, it engages the higher gear ratio which then takes about 10 years to wind the legs !!

Luke

Cheers for that very informative , just what I needed as I just passed on a waggon & drag so a little bit different but same principles.

Cheers again