delboytwo:
and if you did not wright out your holiday tachos in theory you would not have 28 day with you
Yes you would. You are not required to fill out records for non working days so as long as you have a record with you for each day you worked in the 29 day period then you have satisfied the requirements of the regulations. You don’t fill charts in for rest days, or at least you don’t need to, and holidays are no different.
Take a part time or semi retired driver who only does the odd day here and there, maybe just one day a week. They could be stopped and only have 4 or 5 records to produce covering the 29 day period. He doesn’t fill in charts for non working days saying ‘not working’.
delboytwo:
read this in regs
Rest and other days off
The period of time unaccounted for between successive charts produced by a driver should normally
be regarded as (unless there is evidence to the contrary) a rest period when drivers are able to dispose freely of their time. In the UK, drivers are not expected to account for this period, unless enforcement
authorities have reason to believe that they were working. Nevertheless, on international journeys it is
recommended that letters of attestation from the employer are provided for drivers travelling through
other countries to cover any sick leave, annual leave and time spent driving a vehicle which is out of
scope of EU/AETR rules during the preceding 28 days. An EU approved attestation form can be
and the bit in red would it be excepted by vosa if you did what I said (fill in the days as hols and keep them as a week)
No it would not be expected. If you are stopped all you need to produce are records for the days you are required to make them for, i.e. days you drove under EU rules or days you worked but did not drive in a week when you drove under EU rules. If VOSA suspect you have driven more than the records you produce it is up to them to prove you did, not for you to prove you didn’t. If you don’t produce records for a week and you tell them you were on holiday but they suspect otherwise they will have to check other documentation such as time sheets, wages records etc.
On International journeys where it isn’t easy or possible for foreign enforcement authorities to check things such as time sheets you still don’t need records for holidays, instead it is normal to carry something like this.
Activity Confirmation
Attestation d’Activité / Bescheinigung
Confirmación de Actividades
**Conferma di Attività **
To whom it may concern
Contrôle sur route/ Strassenkontrolle
A quien pueda interesar/ A chi di spettanza
EU Regulation No. 3821.85 - 20.12.85 - Article 15.7
Règlement (CEE) No. 3821/85 - 20.12.85 - Article 15.7
EWEG Vorschrift Nr. 3821/85 - 20.12.85 - Artikel 15.7
Reglamento UE Nº 3821/85 - 20.12.85 - Articulo 15.7
Norma UE No. 3821/85 - 20.12.85 - Articolo 15.7
During the period from ……………………………………….until………………………………
Au cours de la période du / au
Im Zeitraum vom / bis
Durante el periodo iniciado el / y terminado el
Durante il periodo compreso tra il / e il
Driver (Name - Christian Name) …………………………………………………………………
Conducteur (Nom - Prénom)/ Fahrer (Name - Vornahme)
El conductor (appellidos y nombre)/ Il conducente (Cognome - Nome)
Was /était /war/estuvo/è stato
(Delete if inapplicable/Rayer la mention inutile ou préciser/Nichtzutreffendes streichen oder genauer
bestimmen/Tachar lo innecesario/Cancellare qualora inapplicabile)
- occupied with tasks additional to driving ( ) the vehicle
occupé à des travaux annexes à la conduite d’un véhicule
wie folgt beschäftigt mit KFZ-Nebentätigkeiten
ocupado con tareas adicionales a la conducción del vehiculo
occupato con mansioni addizionali a quella di guida del veicolo
- at rest ( )
au repos / Rehetag / Descansando / A riposo
- has stopped working because ………………………………………………………………………………………………
…………………………………………………………………………………………………
en arrêt de travail pour cause de / aus folgenden Gründen nicht beschäftigt
ha dejado de trabajar porque / ha smesso di lavorare perché
Company Stamp
Dated…………………………………
Cachet d’entreprise/Gesellschaftsstempel Datée du / Datum
Sello de la empresa/Timbro della società Fecha/ In data
Signature……………………………
Unterschrift
Firma
Of course they are open to abuse and it isn’t unknown for drivers to carry pre stamped blanks and fill them in as required. 