Immigrant:
mac12:
If it was closed which living within sight of it I think it would be, he should be made to pay all the costs for the recovery and bridge costs. the mans a foolmay be a Polish. Agency perhaps. Wot will you charge them?
All the dollars
Immigrant:
mac12:
If it was closed which living within sight of it I think it would be, he should be made to pay all the costs for the recovery and bridge costs. the mans a foolmay be a Polish. Agency perhaps. Wot will you charge them?
That will take more than polish old lad.
Pete.
I left immingham at 04:30 and I’m pretty sure it was closed to high siders then!
It is true that there is now a tag system in operation, and you can bypass the booths using this method. However only a fool would ignore the signs and plod on regardless.
The A66 and woodhead pass aren’t monitored afaik when closed to high siders either. IF found that the driver ignored the signs, then they should throw the book at him, as he endangered himself and others!
Should have his licence took off him if he went across when he shouldn’t, could of killed someone… No excuse for it.
Conan the Librarian:
I left immingham at 04:30 and I’m pretty sure it was closed to high siders then!It is true that there is now a tag system in operation, and you can bypass the booths using this method. However only a fool would ignore the signs and plod on regardless.
The A66 and woodhead pass aren’t monitored afaik when closed to high siders either. IF found that the driver ignored the signs, then they should throw the book at him, as he endangered himself and others!
Saw nothing on the martix signs. I also left at 04:30 from the docks.
Conan the Librarian:
IF found that the driver ignored the signs, then they should throw the book at him, as he endangered himself and others!
Two drivers of Luton vans which were blown over on the Forth Road Bridge in recent years were prosecuted and given fairly substantial sentences.
One year driving ban and 100 hours community service for this guy.
And a two year ban and 300 hours community service for this one.
Although the German driver whose drawbar trailer was blown over and back up again several times got off with a caution.
That German driver must of been zb’ing concrete blocks!
This was the one which blew over on the Cromarty Bridge today - a 12 tonner with a huge box and a light cargo.
Highgrove Beds Transport YK15UYY by MJ’s Transport Photo’s, on Flickr
I had a mate cross literally 5 minutes before this happened, at that point the bridge was definitely open, it had a 30mph restriction, but it was open
We’ve got drivers saying it was open, drivers saying it was open when they left a, b, c , driver saying there mate crossed it 5 mins earlier and it was open , driver saying he saw no signs, bridge folks saying they need to investigate if it was open/ not but it’s really up to the driver , sounds like a right mess, I think the procedures clearly want looking at
To be fair to the driver, he said his tag worked and it wouldn’t be beyond the wit of man to stop his tag working if the bridge is closed. Sounds also like the bridge operator are covering there arses by saying that it’s the driver’s own responsibility to decide.
At what point does a vehicle legally get classed as ‘high sided’?
Or is it upto individuals to decide ?
dcgpx:
At what point does a vehicle legally get classed as ‘high sided’?Or is it upto individuals to decide ?
Not sure if anyone has posted this before, but this is the Forth Road Bridge Authorities definition of high sided vehicles.
Don’tthink the driver is arguing he isn’t a high sided vechicle .he from I’ve read said he saw no signs prohibiting high sided vechicles,that’s why he crossed ( another driver said his mate crossed 5 mins earlier and there weren’t any warning signs .
The main thing he’s ok , would though be interesting to know what was the outcome of the investigation of the incident was
mick.mh2racing:
To be fair to the driver, he said his tag worked and it wouldn’t be beyond the wit of man to stop his tag working if the bridge is closed. Sounds also like the bridge operator are covering there arses by saying that it’s the driver’s own responsibility to decide.
the tag doesn’t open the barrier, the tag lanes don’t have barriers, you don’t stop.
i do think it’s poor show from the bridge operator, they’re the ones with the wind monitoring equipment
I’ve had this discussion with tipper drivers they say there not classed as high siders but I always thought all wagons would be classed apart from flats and low loaders. I pull a glass trl which runs at 13.5 ft and I avoid areas which are closed but I know some people don’t there argument is there not high and there that low the wind can’t get under them like a conventional trl
dcgpx:
At what point does a vehicle legally get classed as ‘high sided’?Or is it upto individuals to decide ?
+1
As a rule of thumb if your wondering how to judge whether your vehicle is high or not just ask yourself if you where to jump off the top of it would it hurt.
If yes then your a high sider and for the high jump if breaking a route restriction.
Course if your good at the high jump then your judgement of a high sided vehicle may be greater than average in which case one must carryout calculations as to the mass of your vehicle using algebra and other types of magic.
Be sure to show all your working out.
Hope this simplifies things.
Although one can feel for the driver if caught between the bridge being OK to use then closed to highschool. Bit its a rock and a hard place scenario.
Not dissimilar to that realisation one gets when a woman screaming ‘No’ might actually mean no.
“Professional HGV drivers will know their vehicle weight and height and are best placed to assess their vulnerability to the weather.”
What a crock of ■■■■! If that was the case, then why “close” it to high siders at all? Just let the driver decide?
Sounds like the bridge operator ■■■■■■ up and is frantically looking for material to cover his rather exposed arse.