The fact he was a lorry driver is perhaps irrelevant to the fact he did what he did, though it did catch my interest that his wife had mentioned how being on camera at work affected him.
They included a section on mental heath in the last CPC module I sat which was run in house. While it is good to talk about issues you are having, I guess you would also need to feel the person you are talking to has some sort of understanding themselves for it to be of any benefit.
I read full article and it basiaclly says he found the job lonely. And it Gave him time to think about things.
And he kept having flash backs to some accident he had.
Also being ex army no doubt he had flash backs to other things. And being in a truck all alone. Obviously triggered something.
Can’t really blame having a camera in his truck for what he did.
Can be lonely though driving esp if long distance .
Least multi drop your in our talking to people at each drop etc .
Long distance can be hard mentally. Hence why need to get out can every day go for a walk fresh air clear your head Interact with others etc.
I think it’s another example of a career soldier losing the plot and going off the rails.Nothing to do with a career lorry driver.
Anyone who wants and chooses to be a trained hand to hand killer in this case obviously has to have a ‘special’ borderline mindset.
As opposed to someone who joined up to be logistics corps driver.
As for discussing or stating any ‘personal’ medical issues at a CPC course that’s obviously a sure way to lose your licence.
I read it as more anti road transport propaganda.
With the win win of diverting attention from the real problem because they obviously don’t want any army recruitment implications of telling that job it like it is.
Carryfast:
I think it’s another example of a career soldier losing the plot and going off the rails.Nothing to do with a career lorry driver.
Anyone who wants and chooses to be a trained hand to hand killer in this case obviously has to have a ‘special’ borderline mindset.
There is obviously no excuse for what he did , but the design of some of the parking on on newer city type houses is a joke , my daughters parking space is squeezed into the corner of a back yard , there’s no way to open the doors of the car without hitting the car next to hers
Now when she moved in there was room for her to reverse into to be able to swing out of that parking space , she then goes on holiday & comes back to find a recently moved in neighbour had fenced it off as he has no garden ( the same house he brought with out a garden ) , I was going round but my daughter said she’d spoke to them & they say it’s there’s , the deeds clearly say it’s not , it’s now in the hands of solicitors
The daughter even said can we swop designated parking spaces , they refused as he said he wouldn’t be able to get his car in / out of my daughters car designated parking space
I’ve also Owned 2 houses with shared drives , never again ,the last one the taxi driver who moved in completely took it over , I eventually dug up my front garden , gravelled it so he could do what he wanted with the drives as I now had a parking space , problem sorted , but no I came home from work that night to find one of his taxi in that space with him unloading it , according to him I tried to run him over , he was probably right , I’d had enough ,
I sold that house straight away at the orders of the mrs and now live in a house with enough parking for 10 cars , daughter is the same , I warned her about the parking , but it’s not easy to get a house near to work , at a price she could afford in a city with a nice drive , though when she moves a drive is no1 of the must haves
As I say nothing excuses what he did , but some people can you just can’t talk to , reason with , I thought I’d been reasonable , dealt with the problem by digging up my front garden to create a parking place , it just ended up with me aiming the car for the idiot next door
I’d never buy another house without my own parking for 2 cars , not interested in shared drives , parking spaces in back yards , on street parking
Carryfast:
I think it’s another example of a career soldier losing the plot and going off the rails.Nothing to do with a career lorry driver.
Anyone who wants and chooses to be a trained hand to hand killer in this case obviously has to have a ‘special’ borderline mindset.
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Have to say the reference to Commando reminded me of the film Rambo.
Obviously confused a parking dispute as Goose Green or Afghanistan.
If I was on the jury think I’d have accepted the plea of diminished responsibility.
Jeez Carryfast. This is taking the whole “I know everything” persona to a whole new level.
I’ve let your message through pre-mod because there’s nothing in the rules to say I shouldn’t, but as someone who has family military connections on all sides, and lives with a man who served in the Falklands, I don’t know whether to scrape my jaw off the deck or put yours on it for your ignorance. I have a form of PTSD myself, connected to non-military trauma. Trust me when I say it doesn’t work like that.
Carryfast:
I think it’s another example of a career soldier losing the plot and going off the rails.Nothing to do with a career lorry driver.
Anyone who wants and chooses to be a trained hand to hand killer in this case obviously has to have a ‘special’ borderline mindset.
As opposed to someone who joined up to be logistics corps driver.
As for discussing or stating any ‘personal’ medical issues at a CPC course that’s obviously a sure way to lose your licence.
I read it as more anti road transport propaganda.
With the win win of diverting attention from the real problem because they obviously don’t want any army recruitment implications of telling that job it like it is.
He wasn’t a career soldier or he would have served 22 years .
You don’t need to be trained to stab anybody it’s a fairly simple process .
He was angry in the hour leading up to the murders as his wife said she was leaving him.
He also said during the trial he had never shot or killed anyone in Afghanistan.
He was a driver in Afghanistan.
There’s more to being an army commando than running about with a dagger between your teeth and a painted face.
Jesus Carryfast I do like your posts but this time you are pretty much wrong on all counts.
Lucy:
Jeez Carryfast. This is taking the whole “I know everything” persona to a whole new level.
I’ve let your message through pre-mod because there’s nothing in the rules to say I shouldn’t, but as someone who has family military connections on all sides, and lives with a man who served in the Falklands, I don’t know whether to scrape my jaw off the deck or put yours on it for your ignorance. I have a form of PTSD myself, connected to non-military trauma. Trust me when I say it doesn’t work like that.
To be fair whatever the actual circumstances ‘he’ entered a plea of diminished responsibility which
‘I’ said should have been accepted by the jury or better by his GP.Meaning that he’d have been sectioned.
Sane people don’t generally wipe out the neighbours over a parking dispute while it’s more likely that his chosen military commando service training would have led up to all that than the job of driving a truck.
No offence was meant.
Carryfast:
I think it’s another example of a career soldier losing the plot and going off the rails.Nothing to do with a career lorry driver.
Anyone who wants and chooses to be a trained hand to hand killer in this case obviously has to have a ‘special’ borderline mindset.
As opposed to someone who joined up to be logistics corps driver.
As for discussing or stating any ‘personal’ medical issues at a CPC course that’s obviously a sure way to lose your licence.
I read it as more anti road transport propaganda.
With the win win of diverting attention from the real problem because they obviously don’t want any army recruitment implications of telling that job it like it is.
He wasn’t a career soldier or he would have served 22 years .
You don’t need to be trained to stab anybody it’s a fairly simple process .
He was angry in the hour leading up to the murders as his wife said she was leaving him.
He also said during the trial he had never shot or killed anyone in Afghanistan.
He was a driver in Afghanistan.
There’s more to being an army commando than running about with a dagger between your teeth and a painted face.
Jesus Carryfast I do like your posts but this time you are pretty much wrong on all counts.
If he was a cereer driver he obviously would have put in for the job of logistics corps driver not commando training.
Both being different specialist roles and don’t think that anyone is just allocated to the commando role from basic training without volunteering and requesting it.Even in wartime.
Carryfast:
As for discussing or stating any ‘personal’ medical issues at a CPC course that’s obviously a sure way to lose your licence.
To be fair it wasn’t really a ‘show and tell’ moment in the group situation, but covered the subject with an aim to reduce stigma and encourage bringing up being open about issues with a line manager, your doctor or someone else rather than trying to sit it out on your own.
I would be cautious with bringing such things out into the workplace myself though unless I was pretty comfortable with how much I trusted the person I would be dealing with.
I don’t tramp but I could imagine for some situations it might make the situation worse, or perhaps if you want to keep your own company as much as you can even provide some respite.
Historically I have had bouts of what I now regard of anxiety, at the time I worked in a customer facing role and had staff to manage during each shift, but away from work would not socialise or go out of the flat other than for the necessities. At some points I would even avoid meeting my lodger by waiting for them to leave before getting out of bed in the mornings.
At work I was fairly good at masking the problem and could put on a friendly face and come over upbeat and positive most of the time. I couldn’t say if having work to go to 5 days a week was a helpful stabilising force or if the demands of ‘playing the part’ took its toll and actually worsened the problem or extended its duration.
Lucy:
Jeez Carryfast. This is taking the whole “I know everything” persona to a whole new level.
I’ve let your message through pre-mod because there’s nothing in the rules to say I shouldn’t, but as someone who has family military connections on all sides, and lives with a man who served in the Falklands, I don’t know whether to scrape my jaw off the deck or put yours on it for your ignorance. I have a form of PTSD myself, connected to non-military trauma. Trust me when I say it doesn’t work like that.
To be fair whatever the actual circumstances ‘he’ entered a plea of diminished responsibility which
‘I’ said should have been accepted by the jury or better by his GP.Meaning that he’d have been sectioned.
Sane people don’t generally wipe out the neighbours over a parking dispute while it’s more likely that his chosen military commando service training would have led up to all that than the job of driving a truck.
No offence was meant.
Because you heard all the evidence and have carried out a psychiatric evaluation of him, have you?
Lucy:
Jeez Carryfast. This is taking the whole “I know everything” persona to a whole new level.
I’ve let your message through pre-mod because there’s nothing in the rules to say I shouldn’t, but as someone who has family military connections on all sides, and lives with a man who served in the Falklands, I don’t know whether to scrape my jaw off the deck or put yours on it for your ignorance. I have a form of PTSD myself, connected to non-military trauma. Trust me when I say it doesn’t work like that.
To be fair whatever the actual circumstances ‘he’ entered a plea of diminished responsibility which
‘I’ said should have been accepted by the jury or better by his GP.Meaning that he’d have been sectioned.
Sane people don’t generally wipe out the neighbours over a parking dispute while it’s more likely that his chosen military commando service training would have led up to all that than the job of driving a truck.
No offence was meant.
Because you heard all the evidence and have carried out a psychiatric evaluation of him, have you?
What possible evaluation could conclude that wiping out the neighbours over a parking dispute was the act of a sane person.
Lucy:
Jeez Carryfast. This is taking the whole “I know everything” persona to a whole new level.
I’ve let your message through pre-mod because there’s nothing in the rules to say I shouldn’t, but as someone who has family military connections on all sides, and lives with a man who served in the Falklands, I don’t know whether to scrape my jaw off the deck or put yours on it for your ignorance. I have a form of PTSD myself, connected to non-military trauma. Trust me when I say it doesn’t work like that.
To be fair whatever the actual circumstances ‘he’ entered a plea of diminished responsibility which
‘I’ said should have been accepted by the jury or better by his GP.Meaning that he’d have been sectioned.
Sane people don’t generally wipe out the neighbours over a parking dispute while it’s more likely that his chosen military commando service training would have led up to all that than the job of driving a truck.
No offence was meant.
Because you heard all the evidence and have carried out a psychiatric evaluation of him, have you?
What possible evaluation could conclude that wiping out the neighbours over a parking dispute was the act of a sane person.
Well the 2 psychiatrists who carried out evaluations of him, including one for the defence, both diagnosed him as mildly depressed, so they clearly thought he was sane, deserves every one of those 38 years.
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