Lorry driver charged with manslaughter of 39 [Merged]

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i think the new question is now…
what goes in and out when the doorbell rings?..the hughes brothers respective a-holes. :slight_smile:

when your are doing dodgy things you dont expect to get caught,but you might think it would be prudent not to be so stupid as to tie yourself directly into everything…straight from the bog mentality there.
they should be well buried out of the way by now working out how to fight or flee.
personally id have long flown and let the money follow me ,but certainly interesting news from this side since colin howell owned up to the murders years ago.
i know ones who have worked from the usual suspects and similar over here including myself for a wee while years ago,but i would have never ever ran abroad for them .point blank refusal.
limey phil obviously couldnt see the writing on the wall there.

what a coincidence that chrs hughes started trading around the same time as ronan got the jail for the ciggies… :open_mouth:

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Nobody has cottoned on yet to why those poor 39 died of suffocation yet the supposed other trailer loads didn’t??

Been told via the “Tang jungle drums” and if true young Harrison is totally F ■■ KED!!!

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by the boyos,or by the courts?
theres a chance he will get to see pension age if its by the courts.

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You have to wonder how many times this has happened before, except that the Tang in question has had the sense to phone the right people rather than the wrong people and the bodies have ended up buried in the bogs of South Armagh.

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or put into a mixer, rotated for a few hours, then had a load of readymix added before the final pour…allegedly.

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If as according to the local taxi drivers interviewed straight after this seemed to be a regular drop off point how come there wasn’t more monitoring?

They played that footage of his truck on the estate a zillion times after the event so surely the authorities would have had a passing interest in seeing if any regular number plates were using the area for a short unexplained period?

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ATJT:
If as according to the local taxi drivers interviewed straight after this seemed to be a regular drop off point how come there wasn’t more monitoring?

They played that footage of his truck on the estate a zillion times after the event so surely the authorities would have had a passing interest in seeing if any regular number plates were using the area for a short unexplained period?

It is I suspect a regular drop off point. Often see groups of ‘foreign’ looking people with rucksacks walking about.
The problem is that there are so many places that they can choose as a drop off point with zero monitoring and is impossible to monitor them all.

Harry made a good point regarding how many times this may of happened though. Very disturbing and has not doubt happened.
I also wonder how many times this has happened successfully and how often.

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The guy needed to phone his handler not the ambulance…

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Big Truck:
Nobody has cottoned on yet to why those poor 39 died of suffocation yet the supposed other trailer loads didn’t??

Been told via the “Tang jungle drums” and if true young Harrison is totally F ■■ KED!!!

Don’t see what he could have done in the very short time between the docks and the industrial estate?

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ATJT:

Big Truck:
Nobody has cottoned on yet to why those poor 39 died of suffocation yet the supposed other trailer loads didn’t??

Been told via the “Tang jungle drums” and if true young Harrison is totally F ■■ KED!!!

Don’t see what he could have done in the very short time between the docks and the industrial estate?

Naff all, they were already dead. The text message that lass sent her parents was around 2 hours before the boat docked according to the media.

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ATJT:

Big Truck:
Nobody has cottoned on yet to why those poor 39 died of suffocation yet the supposed other trailer loads didn’t??

Been told via the “Tang jungle drums” and if true young Harrison is totally F ■■ KED!!!

Don’t see what he could have done in the very short time between the docks and the industrial estate?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
do keep up there.
its not woody that he is referring to…
there were 3 trailers and different units.
the dude called harrison nabbed off the dublin ferry hasnt been a good boy and is likely to to have fell out of favour with those that matter,hence he is another one that best stay in jail if he wants his xmas pudding.

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irishtrucker.com/News/12927

C Hughes Transport, going from strength to strength, apparently

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the irony of this part of it somewhat amuses me…

All the lorries are busy and gainful employment is generated for a team of six full time. Christopher is a hands-on owner / director and he involves himself in every aspect of his business, including occasional driving. The trips can be long and demanding

:slight_smile:

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dieseldog999:

ATJT:

Big Truck:
Nobody has cottoned on yet to why those poor 39 died of suffocation yet the supposed other trailer loads didn’t??

Been told via the “Tang jungle drums” and if true young Harrison is totally F ■■ KED!!!

Don’t see what he could have done in the very short time between the docks and the industrial estate?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
do keep up there.
its not woody that he is referring to…
there were 3 trailers and different units.
the dude called harrison nabbed off the dublin ferry hasnt been a good boy and is likely to to have fell out of favour with those that matter,hence he is another one that best stay in jail if he wants his xmas pudding.

My mistake, you’re right.

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porsche:
What i find strange / amateur about the whole thing;

  • if you are people smuggling would you do it in a Bulgarian registered truck? That has to draw more attention to the authorities. You prob save a few grand a year doing so but pittance versus the smuggling business.
  • Especially in a blinged up one - isn’t that bull bar illegal, crying to get pulled over.
  • a fridge seems like a lethal choice to use. Yes it can help avoid detection versus a curtain but surely if it’s an organised business they would have cop on to realise the risks.
  • why stop where he stopped, on a bend near a junction. opening a door to let 39 people out (who it’s reported had a bag each) is going to take a while.
  • hiring a trailer from a company which advertises that they have satellite tracking in all their trailers is foolish.
  • combining a blinged Bulgarian reg’d tractor to a trailer which clearly shows that it has been hired from a southern Irish company (sticker on rear) again increases the chances of police / vosa / customs pulling over.

Well put and I couldn’t agree more. However assuming this wasn’t their first run, amazingly they have being sliding past Border Force for some time now until they themselves phoned the authorities. At least that driver called it in and stood his ground.

What annoys the crap out of me is the amount of time I have wasted wasted in the Passport check queue in Harwich even though my passport is already registered at booking on and is the same one they checked last trip. In the meantime these guys are gone out the gate with their dropped trailer.

D Dog you keep referring to the risk the arrested drivers face if they talk but I don’t see it.

I reckon with the phones, iPads, email accounts, the driver’s GPS, the rental trailer tracker GPS, company registrations and shipping records that the police are having a field day.

I reckon they will only ask the drivers if they want a glass of water while they easily put the puzzle together.

It didn’t take them long to lift the guy doing a runner in Stansted airport and the driver lifted in Dublin probably wishes he now picked a trailer in Calais for Malaga instead and then put the lot on eBay.

Yes it seem the Criminal Assets Police were on to them already for smuggling contraband, cigarettes and liquor but they weren’t aware these guys had a people trafficking branch also according to the newspapers.

These guys seem to use both sides the Irish border and Bulgaria to evade regulation and the attentions of the authorities despite it seems getting time already in Dover for cigarettes. Traffic commissioners and good repute would only appear to be for fools trying to do the job properly.

These guys and their like minded neighbours in Bandit Country are probably praying for a Hard Irish Border after Brexit as the smuggling industry will boom and they are ideally located with years of experience it seems.

As for the idiotic proposal for a technology border and clearance yards away from the border again the smugglers must be awake at night excitedly wondering which of the nearly 300 unmanned crossings they’ll use and how many new Scannys should they order for all the lucrative new business coming their way.

You couldn’t make it up.

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dieseldog999:
the irony of this part of it somewhat amuses me…

All the lorries are busy and gainful employment is generated for a team of six full time. Christopher is a hands-on owner / director and he involves himself in every aspect of his business, including occasional driving. The trips can be long and demanding

:slight_smile:

Anyone who knows what ‘legitimate’ work they are or were doing knows full that the rates on that work don’t pay for a fleet of blinged up V8’s. The one thing that has become apparent as this case unfolds is that the UK’s law enforcement agencies might be improved if they attend the Inspector Clouseau school of policing as it would appear that all and sundry knew what was happening apart from the people whose job it is to enforce the law.
Anyone wondering how these people can move the through the ports unhindered while companies with no record of illegality are regularly stopped can’t have the thought of pay offs and corruption to far from their thoughts, only last year a serving member of the border force was jailed for assisting in the smuggling of firearms into the UK

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An Garda Síochána’s secretive crime and security section is attempting to track the movements of the (Hughes) brothers.

Gardaí have also not yet received an extradition request from the Belgian or UK authorities for a man arrested at Dublin Port last weekend, who is currently on a protection regime in Cloverhill Prison in west Dublin.

It could be the best Christmas he has had.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
as above.
if dont take care,then itl be the last xmas he has.

major criminal activities in northern ireland are at some point connected to and sanctioned by one balaclava wearing brigade or the other side.
if they didnt wish to be connected directly,then as soon as the grapevine informed the main men,they would be getting their visit and told whats what,though by looking at the mug shots of the brothers you might not think that would be too much of a shock for them especially when 1 of them did previous time for 1 million ciggy evasion in a similar fridge.
as the previous posters picture shows,then the bottom line is that rats/touts get shot.
whether he did or did not sing like a canary,then by being held incommunicado there would be no way for his family or him to be told what will happen to them if he turns queens evidence ect.
no doubt he would be aware of the normal retribution,but just being a bottom rung on the ladder of those involved then even thinking he is a bit of a jack the lad,his,and anyone elses bottle would surely just collapse bigtime 5 seconds after opening the fridge door thereafter rational thought process goes right out of the window.
once plod got him then they would just isolate him for hours at a time to let his head melt,then offer him the inticements for helping them pronto which one may think he did when the rest of them got a tug so soon.

as is the norm,the ones up the chain have a natural shrewdness to carry out their activities,but at the end of the day,they are mostly thickos in general aspects of life,hence usuing the correct names when hiring gps trailers ect.
as for the bg reg blingmobiles trucks,then if you look at a lot of major discoveries at dover ect,its usually a poverty spec axor/actros,plain colour and unmarked fridge.
possibly if you cant baffle them with brilliance,you can dazzle them with bullshine?
either way his goose is cooked,and possibly his family if he dont play ball once they pass on the info they will surely have received by now.
mr harrison will also be getting his good news one way or another as things look even worse for him.

cavan truck show might lack a few entrants this next coming year though no doubt theres a few others moving in to cover the work…somewhat similar to stobarts going bust. :slight_smile:

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dieseldog999:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
as above.
if dont take care,then itl be the last xmas he has.

major criminal activities in northern ireland are at some point connected to and sanctioned by one balaclava wearing brigade or the other side.
if they didnt wish to be connected directly,then as soon as the grapevine informed the main men,they would be getting their visit and told whats what,though by looking at the mug shots of the brothers you might not think that would be too much of a shock for them especially when 1 of them did previous time for 1 million ciggy evasion in a similar fridge.
as the previous posters picture shows,then the bottom line is that rats/touts get shot.
whether he did or did not sing like a canary,then by being held incommunicado there would be no way for his family or him to be told what will happen to them if he turns queens evidence ect.
no doubt he would be aware of the normal retribution,but just being a bottom rung on the ladder of those involved then even thinking he is a bit of a jack the lad,his,and anyone elses bottle would surely just collapse bigtime 5 seconds after opening the fridge door thereafter rational thought process goes right out of the window.
once plod got him then they would just isolate him for hours at a time to let his head melt,then offer him the inticements for helping them pronto which one may think he did when the rest of them got a tug so soon.

as is the norm,the ones up the chain have a natural shrewdness to carry out their activities,but at the end of the day,they are mostly thickos in general aspects of life,hence usuing the correct names when hiring gps trailers ect.
as for the bg reg blingmobiles trucks,then if you look at a lot of major discoveries at dover ect,its usually a poverty spec axor/actros,plain colour and unmarked fridge.
possibly if you cant baffle them with brilliance,you can dazzle them with bullshine?
either way his goose is cooked,and possibly his family if he dont play ball once they pass on the info they will surely have received by now.
mr harrison will also be getting his good news one way or another as things look even worse for him.

cavan truck show might lack a few entrants this next coming year though no doubt theres a few others moving in to cover the work…somewhat similar to stobarts going bust. :slight_smile:

I’ve got just one more question. Can you be a Tang in anything other than a V8 Scania? Do Volvo driving Tang’s exist?

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Looks like the 2 wanted men are the ones filmed a while back failing to stop for vosa check

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