I remember when the Falklands war was going on. Our aluminium made ships were burning down to the waterline after being hit by Exocet missiles. The Admiralty were on the media saying that they were astonished by the outcome. Its time that the well paid people understood what the rest of us know. ALUMINIUM IS COMBUSTIBLE.
So are Delaney Haulage related to the Hughes Brothers? or Eamon Harrison?
robroy:
Franglais:
Are you happy to listen to, or to repeat, unsubstantiated stories repeated from RDC waiting rooms?
Don’t you want them backed up with some sort of law or genuine personal experience?
You’re not telling me that are you?
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If there are any legs to “about a third shouldn’t have been there” whatever that really means, it’ll be reported somewhere won’t it?
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So anyway, I saved you the trouble and found a story on Metro. Seems there were 80 illegal immigrants in the block.
The Metro carried more weight IMHO than rumour.Ok, so now you’re saying my ‘‘word on the street/hearsay/rumour/b.s or ■■■■■■■■’’ or whatever turn of phrase YOU choose, was in fact more or less accurate in principle if not in quantity.
So where are we going with this exactly■■?Btw do you believe everything you read on ‘Metro’ (whatever that may be) maybe their figures were wrong.
Something written in a publication, if wrong, will be challenged and if wrong corrected.
There are other references olto the same story.
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Do you assume that everything you hear on the street or RDC is correct?
Probably not. I certainly don’t.
Neither do I assume they must automatically be false. That’d be just as silly.
Life is full of uncertainty.
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I tend to be more sceptical of rumour than of published reports available through multiple sources.
No apologies from me for that.
Ok mate, I could respond, but I reckon we’re going around in circles here achieving nowt.
So we’ll stick a ‘Knock it on the head label’ on it eh?
robroy:
Ok mate, I could respond, but I reckon we’re going around in circles here achieving nowt.
So we’ll stick a ‘Knock it on the head label’ on it eh?
Both walk away, shaking our heads, and muttering under our breath?
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Yeah, alright.
alamcculloch:
I remember when the Falklands war was going on. Our aluminium made ships were burning down to the waterline after being hit by Exocet missiles. The Admiralty were on the media saying that they were astonished by the outcome. Its time that the well paid people understood what the rest of us know. ALUMINIUM IS COMBUSTIBLE.
Aluminium has a melting point of about 650 C. It does not burn except as finely divided powder, in which form it is used in explosives, Thermite and fireworks. Here is a technical report on the subject.
Resistance to Burning in Normal Atmospheric Conditions As illustrated in the tests described subsequently, solid bulk aluminium will not burn and has never been observed to burn in air. Similarly, molten aluminium has not been observed to burn in air. In neither situation does aluminium give off smoke or any hazardous fumes. The natural oxide coating on solid aluminium forms very rapidly and inhibits reaction of the underlying solid aluminium to air, thereby contributing to its high resistance to burning. Like finely divided metallic powders of most metals, aluminium powder is very flammable and is hazardous to handle. It is used to make explosives. In a fire, this behaviour is entirely different from that of solid or molten aluminium. Even thin foils of aluminium are impossible to get to burn rather than melt.
Aluminium has been thoroughly evaluated for structures where fire may be encountered and is given the highest rating for such applications by ASTM Standards (Ref 1.9–1.11), British Standard 476 (Ref 1.12–1.16), European Communities Directives on Construction Products (Ref 1.17), and various U.S. building codes (e.g., Ref 1.18). 1.4.1 ASTM Standards (Ref 1.9–1.11) AS T M Standard E 108. Fire tests to determine combustibility of
Wheel Nut:
So are Delaney Haulage related to the Hughes Brothers? or Eamon Harrison?
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moving back to somewhere remotely on topic,then cork is a couple of hundred miles away from county armagh/monaghan so anythings possible but who would know.
heres what the company has said in relation to the illegals being found.
“We can confirm that the truck involved in last nights incident in Chippenham was one of our ‘Delaney Transport Trucks. Our driver was on the way from Callais to Dover. The driver heard knocking and thought it was a flat tyre. He came off the motorway and pulled in to a lay-by. He then heard knocking from the trailer when the truck stopped. Another lorry driver, who had pulled in to the area, came over to see if everything was ok. That lorry driver then heard knocking on the trailer aswell. The Delaney transport driver then immediately called the Police who arrived to find 15 people in the back of the trailer. The driver was taken to the nearest police station and has been questioned. Mike Delaney has been co-operating with the police all morning and will continue to do so. His driver is also co-operating with Police. Delaney Transport have been operating out of Cork for 55 years and for 45 years on the continent”.
you might think from that statement that the driver would be genuine and not involved …watch this space from news at tang.
dieseldog999:
Wheel Nut:
So are Delaney Haulage related to the Hughes Brothers? or Eamon Harrison?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
moving back to somewhere remotely on topic,then cork is a couple of hundred miles away from county armagh/monaghan so anythings possible but who would know.
heres what the company has said in relation to the illegals being found.“We can confirm that the truck involved in last nights incident in Chippenham was one of our ‘Delaney Transport Trucks. Our driver was on the way from Callais to Dover. The driver heard knocking and thought it was a flat tyre. He came off the motorway and pulled in to a lay-by. He then heard knocking from the trailer when the truck stopped. Another lorry driver, who had pulled in to the area, came over to see if everything was ok. That lorry driver then heard knocking on the trailer aswell. The Delaney transport driver then immediately called the Police who arrived to find 15 people in the back of the trailer. The driver was taken to the nearest police station and has been questioned. Mike Delaney has been co-operating with the police all morning and will continue to do so. His driver is also co-operating with Police. Delaney Transport have been operating out of Cork for 55 years and for 45 years on the continent”.
you might think from that statement that the driver would be genuine and not involved …watch this space from news at tang.
That was my reasoning, get it back on track, unless Grenfell was a safe house for Vietnamese immigrants
Finally all 39 poor souls have been identified . Let’s the living have closure but does beggar a few questions.
How come identification so quick on poor deceased souls but when other illegals come in without identification we can’t deport them because we don’t know anything about them.
If the deceased families have given up information to assist in identification that is an admission of quilt in their compliance will they be charged with trafficking, aiding and abetting / compliance in murder / manslaughter and will they be arrested and grilled as to who they paid the money to etc. Seems one run for the truckers this side who are judged as guilty before a trial and those who willingly put their loved ones in that situation.
Hats on for the pc brigade , human rightist etc. Hope some agree with me.
the old timer:
Finally all 39 poor souls have been identified . Let’s the living have closure but does beggar a few questions.How come identification so quick on poor deceased souls but when other illegals come in without identification we can’t deport them because we don’t know anything about them.
If the deceased families have given up information to assist in identification that is an admission of quilt in their compliance will they be charged with trafficking, aiding and abetting / compliance in murder / manslaughter and will they be arrested and grilled as to who they paid the money to etc. Seems one run for the truckers this side who are judged as guilty before a trial and those who willingly put their loved ones in that situation.
Hats on for the pc brigade , human rightist etc. Hope some agree with me.
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+`1 to all of the above.
if they are all so poor and paid £30 grand a pop that seems to be getting returned,then the uk should have it confiscated to help pay for the cleanup bill.
dieseldog999:
Wheel Nut:
So are Delaney Haulage related to the Hughes Brothers? or Eamon Harrison?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
moving back to somewhere remotely on topic,then cork is a couple of hundred miles away from county armagh/monaghan so anythings possible but who would know.
heres what the company has said in relation to the illegals being found.“We can confirm that the truck involved in last nights incident in Chippenham was one of our ‘Delaney Transport Trucks. Our driver was on the way from Callais to Dover. The driver heard knocking and thought it was a flat tyre. He came off the motorway and pulled in to a lay-by. He then heard knocking from the trailer when the truck stopped. Another lorry driver, who had pulled in to the area, came over to see if everything was ok. That lorry driver then heard knocking on the trailer aswell. The Delaney transport driver then immediately called the Police who arrived to find 15 people in the back of the trailer. The driver was taken to the nearest police station and has been questioned. Mike Delaney has been co-operating with the police all morning and will continue to do so. His driver is also co-operating with Police. Delaney Transport have been operating out of Cork for 55 years and for 45 years on the continent”.
you might think from that statement that the driver would be genuine and not involved …watch this space from news at tang.
No ambiguity whatsoever DD, I have seen these guys for years on Euro work.
A small family tight run haulage outfit AFAIK still going strong it appears so they do not come even close to the Bandit Country (I know it is UK territory) cowboys or the common Eire, Johnny come lately with blinged up lifestyle on crap rates.
Zero connection is the correct answer IMO.
Having the coffee with some Irish drivers this week before docking Dieppe when Essex inevitably came up in conversation and I thought I was about to get the inside story. But No, Irish trucks are the top target of all traffickers within 500 miles of Calais they claim.
We know UK trucks are very scarce these days across the channel (ask Harry) and although most of the trucks in Dover are EE if you spot one in Belgium or Northern France it could be going anywhere in Europe.
However if you see Paddy (not in a derogatory meaning) facing Ireland rather than Europe then you are 100% sure he is heading home via the Holy Grail, the UK.
Apparently they are jumping on board the Paddywagons as far south as Macon these days.
Mini-grinders to cut sealed door handles and a bit of filler to cover up and the first thing the genuine Paddy knows is “suspicious” activity when he stops for a whiz on the M4 or the M6.
They claimed this is at least a weekly occurrence!!!
Most interestingly they said the companies never again call the law after the first experience cos that phone call gets the driver arrested, days of hold up of truck and trailer and perhaps perishables on board, the company’s reputation destroyed publicly or at least in court, thousands in fine demands and so on.
They said the only thing to do if discovered late in the day is get them out, give them £50 for a water or taxi or whatever and then try to save the soiled load and do the trailer repairs later.
I wasn’t expecting that but they say it’s happening every week.
Far fetched, conceivable or believable I don’t know.
Hello, newbie here. Thought this may be of interest to some. Bit of a squeeze happening with the Hughes Bros.
comfortablynumb:
Hello, newbie here. Thought this may be of interest to some. Bit of a squeeze happening with the Hughes Bros.
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id assume now that woody got arrested then they have shown their hand and might as well stop watching and be raiding and grabbing what they can get now to build as big a picture as possible.
updates as they happen from news at tang… 
dieseldog999:
updates as they happen from news at tang…
LOL straight out of a comedy UK’s two most wanted chatting with the Gards as they search away untouchable, you’d have thought that in two weeks they could have rustled up an arrest warrant be interesting to see if the Republic still has it’s no extradition to the UK policy or if they rescinded that when the GFA was signed.
the old timer:
How come identification so quick on poor deceased souls but when other illegals come in without identification we can’t deport them because we don’t know anything about them.
Mainly because (a) some of them were carrying identification, (b) some of them were in communication with their rellies back home and (c) the Vietnamese authorities had most of their fingerprints on record.
If the deceased families have given up information to assist in identification that is an admission of quilt in their compliance will they be charged with trafficking, aiding and abetting / compliance in murder / manslaughter and will they be arrested and grilled as to who they paid the money to etc. Seems one run for the truckers this side who are judged as guilty before a trial and those who willingly put their loved ones in that situation.
It may have escaped your notice, but the UK authorities generally have no jurisdiction to investigate, nor powers to arrest or charge foreign nationals for offences which may have been committed in their own countries.
Hats on for the pc brigade , human rightist etc. Hope some agree with me.
Nothing to do with human rights or being PC.
Mazzer2:
dieseldog999:
updates as they happen from news at tang…LOL straight out of a comedy UK’s two most wanted chatting with the Gards as they search away untouchable, you’d have thought that in two weeks they could have rustled up an arrest warrant be interesting to see if the Republic still has it’s no extradition to the UK policy or if they rescinded that when the GFA was signed.
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well they can extradite across the border north to south and south to north.
the north is the uk british call it what you will,so i would think they could extradite via northern ireland at least?
no doubt we will find out what foot the balaclava wearers above them kick with depending on what lawyer gets picked to represent them on a similar basis to that belfast tramp that got done in peru with the top ira lawyer representing her…not rocket science to work out who is who from that.
Roymondo:
the old timer:
How come identification so quick on poor deceased souls but when other illegals come in without identification we can’t deport them because we don’t know anything about them.Mainly because (a) some of them were carrying identification, (b) some of them were in communication with their rellies back home and (c) the Vietnamese authorities had most of their fingerprints on record.
If the deceased families have given up information to assist in identification that is an admission of quilt in their compliance will they be charged with trafficking, aiding and abetting / compliance in murder / manslaughter and will they be arrested and grilled as to who they paid the money to etc. Seems one run for the truckers this side who are judged as guilty before a trial and those who willingly put their loved ones in that situation.
It may have escaped your notice, but the UK authorities generally have no jurisdiction to investigate, nor powers to arrest or charge foreign nationals for offences which may have been committed in their own countries.
Hats on for the pc brigade , human rightist etc. Hope some agree with me.
Nothing to do with human rights or being PC.
The Vietnamese authorities are supposedly clamping down on trafficking so they now have numerous people who admit to funding it nothing g to do with uk. If these people see action I their own countryside may be a start
the old timer:
Roymondo:
the old timer:
How come identification so quick on poor deceased souls but when other illegals come in without identification we can’t deport them because we don’t know anything about them.Mainly because (a) some of them were carrying identification, (b) some of them were in communication with their rellies back home and (c) the Vietnamese authorities had most of their fingerprints on record.
If the deceased families have given up information to assist in identification that is an admission of quilt in their compliance will they be charged with trafficking, aiding and abetting / compliance in murder / manslaughter and will they be arrested and grilled as to who they paid the money to etc. Seems one run for the truckers this side who are judged as guilty before a trial and those who willingly put their loved ones in that situation.
It may have escaped your notice, but the UK authorities generally have no jurisdiction to investigate, nor powers to arrest or charge foreign nationals for offences which may have been committed in their own countries.
Hats on for the pc brigade , human rightist etc. Hope some agree with me.
Nothing to do with human rights or being PC.
The Vietnamese authorities are supposedly clamping down on trafficking so they now have numerous people who admit to funding it nothing g to do with uk. If these people see action I their own countryside may be a start
Well, quite. So what was the original point you were making?