There’s changing a tyre to help your boss and being economic and there is no one out there that agrees more with that than me BUT to do it in the middle of a live lane is just crazy no matter what anyone says.
I wouldn’t change a wheel at the side of a motorway for all the tea in China, India and Sri Lanka!
Much too dangerous. I stopped playing silly ‘he-man’ games many years ago.
I wonder if the people supporting his actions will be the first to post another RIP post when the nob gets squashed?
You never did international driving then ?
I’ve been to the Isle of Man. does that count
Seriously, fair play to the driver for fixing it, BUT, international driver or not, no-one in their right mind would/should change an o/side wheel on the hard shoulder.
I would drag it to a more convenient location IF I was going to change the wheel.
Agree with the above. We may not like the wombles much, but at times like this they really can make it a bit safer. I wouldn’t dream of working on a vehicle on the HS without some kind of protection there.
I always practice Slow Down Move Over, but many sadly do not.
I’m guessing ExTrucker as a HATO.
By remove him, is that really the safest way to see the job through?
So you make the call, the wrecker should be there within 45 mins (FMG contract). 30 mins to hook up. He still can’t tow it with the tyre hanging off so either the wrecker driver fits the spare, or he takes the wheel off and chains the axle up.
How long now? 1 hour 45?
Wouldn’t the best bet be to provide cover and assist the truck driver in changing his wheel?
That way, hard shoulder time for everyone is minimised. Reduce the exposure, reduce the risk.
Same applies with the tyre fitters. Yeah they’ve got a big gnarly windy gun to buzz the nuts off. But in the time it takes them to turn up, the driver could have had the wheel changed and be gone. Less time spent on the hard shoulder.
cieranc:
I’m guessing ExTrucker as a HATO.
By remove him, is that really the safest way to see the job through?
So you make the call, the wrecker should be there within 45 mins (FMG contract). 30 mins to hook up. He still can’t tow it with the tyre hanging off so either the wrecker driver fits the spare, or he takes the wheel off and chains the axle up.
How long now? 1 hour 45?
Wouldn’t the best bet be to provide cover and assist the truck driver in changing his wheel?
That way, hard shoulder time for everyone is minimised. Reduce the exposure, reduce the risk.
Same applies with the tyre fitters. Yeah they’ve got a big gnarly windy gun to buzz the nuts off. But in the time it takes them to turn up, the driver could have had the wheel changed and be gone. Less time spent on the hard shoulder.
Absolutely spot on IMO. If i’m gonna blow a tyre it’s the likkle ones on my stepframe. I can usually sort that in 30 mins from overalls on to wet wipes away. So the safest and fastest thing is for a Womble to provide cover
Only way I would be changing it my self was if I was
owner driver
2)abroad and middle of no where !
IF your in a city / main motorway am sorry ATS get the call,
Am paid to drive the truck there paid to put tyres on , I try do basic repairs to save time and boss money .
Armagedon:
No he is just an international driver making the best of a bad situation and saving his boss the £400 ATS would charge for a call out.Top man,you should have stopped and helped him.And I expect the wagons were swerving because they were failing to observe,probably texting or watching breakfast TV as they drove along.
AF1:
Not a hope in hell of me changing a wheel on the hard shoulder nor would I stop to help anyone else dopey enough to put themselves in that position! My life’s worth more than whatever ATS would charge.
CAN you imagine that, you’re in a foreign (and F…n’ expensive country) with a strictly reduced budget? What if they can not afford the assistance? Think, before rite.
I aint gonna get an 11.00 R20 changed at the side of the road by ATS…So I would have to do it myself!..And there is not a law in the land that would prevent me from doing this.
I wouldn’t change a wheel at the side of a motorway for all the tea in China, India and Sri Lanka!
Much too dangerous. I stopped playing silly ‘he-man’ games many years ago.
I wonder if the people supporting his actions will be the first to post another RIP post when the nob gets squashed?
You never did international driving then ?
Never, but it would make no difference if I had or did, I still wouldn’t change a wheel on the motorway hard shoulder. As far as I’m aware, it hurts if a truck hits you whether you are in the UK or an International Driver, running on the continent! Just because you are ‘abroad’ doesn’t stop it being an utterly stupid thing to do.
As for the cost to the gaffer, if he’s that bothered, I’m happy to sit up the banking somewhere out of the way while he drives over to crack on with it himself…
read comments on here from other topics and the same things get said,crap money,conditions, treated by crap by tm, clerks, gatehouse forkies, even your colleaques, and yet some will change a tyre in a live lane?? for what, no way would i do it simply dont get paid enough! i,m capable of doing it but would simply choose not to i the op,s circumstances… ATS for me!
At the end of the day someones got to change the tyre, ATS etc fitters arnt any more indistructable than any trucker so why not let people who want to change it, wether its a driver of a tyre fitter its still the same risk.
I also think its sad that you cant be safe on the hard shoulder, shows how low most peoples driveing standards and observations are that they cant even keep the vehicle between the lines
AHT:
At the end of the day someones got to change the tyre, ATS etc fitters arnt any more indistructable than any trucker so why not let people who want to change it, wether its a driver of a tyre fitter its still the same risk.
I also think its sad that you cant be safe on the hard shoulder, shows how low most peoples driveing standards and observations are that they cant even keep the vehicle between the lines
I totally agree with that 100%…But I will add that…We have been coerced into a culture of complete safety and that because of this, the unexpected cannot occur…But as we know, it can, just a pity that the majority of drivers expect every highway to be completely clear at all times, or have to depend on blue/red flashing lights and not their own observations
AHT:
At the end of the day someones got to change the tyre, ATS etc fitters arnt any more indistructable than any trucker so why not let people who want to change it, wether its a driver of a tyre fitter its still the same risk.
I also think its sad that you cant be safe on the hard shoulder, shows how low most peoples driveing standards and observations are that they cant even keep the vehicle between the lines
agree in some ways but a tyre fitter is used to doing his job day in day out and would most probably be alot safer in the circumstances then a driver, especially as van would have some sort of haz lights/bar… as it shows in the o/p that the tools ect were in the carriageway
PremiumTrucker:
Not sure about your gaffers but mine would rather make a few calls to get help then one call off the boys in blue telling them there scraping me off the A1.
yeah but you can’t make a call as you’re in control of a vehicle and on a motorway!!!11!
whatever you do is only as dangerous as you make it. I always keep a close eye on the pressure and condition of the tyres, hence only having a total of 3 failures in 8 years but I’d say I have a better chance of getting hurt slipping on spilled beer in the local pub than changing a tyre on any of those occasions.
Yes changing a wheel on a trailer isn’t dangerous , and in the right circumstances I would probably do it, BUT, those who think changing the O/S on the hard shoulder is perfectly acceptable whether they are foreign or not are simply mad.
Your motor fits in the hard shoulder just nice, but when your crouched down, undoing wheel nuts and the likes , surely to god you must be in the live lane? If it was a case of me having to change it, the ■■■■■■ would be dragged to a safer place.
The N/S is a different story, still dangerous because of the drifting over rumble strip that occurs lots on the roads today. But not as bad.
No one likes been in queues of traffic when a lane is shut, but it’s times like this it’s needed. Just me opinions anyway
yeah I do agree you should keep well clear of live lanes when stopped on the motorway, my comment was only regarding the “I’ll break a fingernail doing that” crowd