Rjan:
OVLOV JAY:
Labour has not been for the working man for many a year now. They’re fractured between the hard left Corbynites, interested in spongers and minorities, thinking anyone who dares to say you have to work for your rewards is a capitalist scumbag who should be taxed to death. And the other side are the centre left Blairites who are just tories for business, but understand you need to dish out working tax credits to fool the turkeys into voting for Christmas. Either way, the party stinks to the core, and it’s support are made up of the work shy and the thick
There’s nothing anti-worker about saying taxes need to be paid. The point is that the rich and large corporations ought to be paying much much more, and doing much more for the common interest.
And if you don’t like the Blairites either, then who do you support? Surely you aren’t suggesting that the Tory party itself is for the little working man?
You surely can’t be thinking that there is some possible economic system in which there is a reasonably fair distribution of wealth, decent jobs, decent public services, but you also don’t have to pay any taxes?
I don’t support any of them. There is no party for the working man any more. And I do believe in a redistribution of wealth, it’s called working for a living. My boss pays me to drive his truck. Unfortunately, we have a massively over supplied labour market, meaning wages are driven down. Want a fair distribution of wealth? You need to strangle the supply of labour to drive up the wages
OVLOV JAY:
Rjan:
OVLOV JAY:
Labour has not been for the working man for many a year now. They’re fractured between the hard left Corbynites, interested in spongers and minorities, thinking anyone who dares to say you have to work for your rewards is a capitalist scumbag who should be taxed to death. And the other side are the centre left Blairites who are just tories for business, but understand you need to dish out working tax credits to fool the turkeys into voting for Christmas. Either way, the party stinks to the core, and it’s support are made up of the work shy and the thick
There’s nothing anti-worker about saying taxes need to be paid. The point is that the rich and large corporations ought to be paying much much more, and doing much more for the common interest.
And if you don’t like the Blairites either, then who do you support? Surely you aren’t suggesting that the Tory party itself is for the little working man?
You surely can’t be thinking that there is some possible economic system in which there is a reasonably fair distribution of wealth, decent jobs, decent public services, but you also don’t have to pay any taxes?
I don’t support any of them. There is no party for the working man any more. And I do believe in a redistribution of wealth, it’s called working for a living. My boss pays me to drive his truck. Unfortunately, we have a massively over supplied labour market, meaning wages are driven down. Want a fair distribution of wealth? You need to strangle the supply of labour to drive up the wages
“Massively over supplied labour market”?
Unemployment at under 4% in the UK. Lowest it’s been for years.
Wages aren’t good, I’d agree, but is it really because of the over supply of labour?
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Franglais:
OVLOV JAY:
Rjan:
OVLOV JAY:
Labour has not been for the working man for many a year now. They’re fractured between the hard left Corbynites, interested in spongers and minorities, thinking anyone who dares to say you have to work for your rewards is a capitalist scumbag who should be taxed to death. And the other side are the centre left Blairites who are just tories for business, but understand you need to dish out working tax credits to fool the turkeys into voting for Christmas. Either way, the party stinks to the core, and it’s support are made up of the work shy and the thick
There’s nothing anti-worker about saying taxes need to be paid. The point is that the rich and large corporations ought to be paying much much more, and doing much more for the common interest.
And if you don’t like the Blairites either, then who do you support? Surely you aren’t suggesting that the Tory party itself is for the little working man?
You surely can’t be thinking that there is some possible economic system in which there is a reasonably fair distribution of wealth, decent jobs, decent public services, but you also don’t have to pay any taxes?
I don’t support any of them. There is no party for the working man any more. And I do believe in a redistribution of wealth, it’s called working for a living. My boss pays me to drive his truck. Unfortunately, we have a massively over supplied labour market, meaning wages are driven down. Want a fair distribution of wealth? You need to strangle the supply of labour to drive up the wages
“Massively over supplied labour market”?
Unemployment at under 4% in the UK. Lowest it’s been for years.
Wages aren’t good, I’d agree, but is it really because of the over supply of labour?
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Transport is very over supplied. In 2003/4 I was doing agency work for Sainsbury’s, and we had drivers from Scotland and the North West living in digs, making up the shortfall. There was always work sat in that yard waiting to go. They couldn’t get enough people to pull the loads. We had about 30 subbies on traction, and every driver was dictating his own hours, start time etc. And the wages? Roughly £1100 before tax. Fast forward 18 months, and the same site was inundated with Polish drivers. The hours were cut to the bones, they were now restricted to 8 hour shifts. The money? Roughly £500 before tax. What one man was doing during a shortage, now two men do. So obviously unemployment will be low, but so will wages. It’s now the turn of the Romanians. They’ve taken the mantle of the Poles. I don’t knock them, they were doing the same as the Scots and the Northerers. Difference being the numbers. The Eastern European’s are in their thousands, the Scots were in their hundreds
OVLOV JAY:
Franglais:
OVLOV JAY:
Rjan:
OVLOV JAY:
Labour has not been for the working man for many a year now. They’re fractured between the hard left Corbynites, interested in spongers and minorities, thinking anyone who dares to say you have to work for your rewards is a capitalist scumbag who should be taxed to death. And the other side are the centre left Blairites who are just tories for business, but understand you need to dish out working tax credits to fool the turkeys into voting for Christmas. Either way, the party stinks to the core, and it’s support are made up of the work shy and the thick
There’s nothing anti-worker about saying taxes need to be paid. The point is that the rich and large corporations ought to be paying much much more, and doing much more for the common interest.
And if you don’t like the Blairites either, then who do you support? Surely you aren’t suggesting that the Tory party itself is for the little working man?
You surely can’t be thinking that there is some possible economic system in which there is a reasonably fair distribution of wealth, decent jobs, decent public services, but you also don’t have to pay any taxes?
I don’t support any of them. There is no party for the working man any more. And I do believe in a redistribution of wealth, it’s called working for a living. My boss pays me to drive his truck. Unfortunately, we have a massively over supplied labour market, meaning wages are driven down. Want a fair distribution of wealth? You need to strangle the supply of labour to drive up the wages
“Massively over supplied labour market”?
Unemployment at under 4% in the UK. Lowest it’s been for years.
Wages aren’t good, I’d agree, but is it really because of the over supply of labour?
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Transport is very over supplied. In 2003/4 I was doing agency work for Sainsbury’s, and we had drivers from Scotland and the North West living in digs, making up the shortfall. There was always work sat in that yard waiting to go. They couldn’t get enough people to pull the loads. We had about 30 subbies on traction, and every driver was dictating his own hours, start time etc. And the wages? Roughly £1100 before tax. Fast forward 18 months, and the same site was inundated with Polish drivers. The hours were cut to the bones, they were now restricted to 8 hour shifts. The money? Roughly £500 before tax. What one man was doing during a shortage, now two men do. So obviously unemployment will be low, but so will wages. It’s now the turn of the Romanians. They’ve taken the mantle of the Poles. I don’t knock them, they were doing the same as the Scots and the Northerers. Difference being the numbers. The Eastern European’s are in their thousands, the Scots were in their hundreds
Good comment.
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Winseer:
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Ah! The 1978 poster, brilliant piece of marketing, shame that the Conservative government it got into power managed to double the unemployment rate from about around 1.5m to over 3m.
Of course these are nothing compared to some of the unemployment rates seen in the Eurozone countries in recent years they were similar to what the UK experienced in the worst days of the Great Depression.
muckles:
Winseer:
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Ah! The 1978 poster, brilliant piece of marketing, shame that the Conservative government it got into power managed to double the unemployment rate from about around 1.5m to over 3m.
Of course these are nothing compared to some of the unemployment rates seen in the Eurozone countries in recent years they were similar to what the UK experienced in the worst days of the Great Depression.
I think people who vote on what has happened in the past - need to see it in their own context…
I remember our family being hard up in the late 70’s and early 80’s - simply because so many millions no longer had “type” jobs to go to, having seen them closed down during the late Callahagn era and early Thatcher era in particular.
If you did alright out of “Thatcherism” - then you’ll probably have voted for her at some point. I never did though, because I spent most of the 80’s going from one “non job” to another.
Thatcher, to we of the “Maggies Millions” unempoyed - rendered technical qualifications like I had - pretty much worthless.
Labour Town Halls on the other hand - pushed their envelope of political correctness, compensation culture, and unopposed outrageeousness in general - pretty much about the same time.
Look what happened to our education establishment, where Grammar Schools got villified, were allowed to fall into ruin, and never really made the comeback they should have done under Pro-Grammar Theresa May’s government of late…
