Long Departed Southampton Hauliers (Part 1)

Unusual Night out spot, A27 Bassett Green Rd 04.40 this morning curtains drawn and trailer wheels on the pavement.

Rock Steady Eddie.

mikey1964:
Unusual Night out spot, A27 Bassett Green Rd 04.40 this morning curtains drawn and trailer wheels on the pavement.

Rock Steady Eddie.

Stobartski what do you expect !!
He’s probably stuck under swaythling arch now.

Buzzer:

HRS:

DEANB:
1965 First load of South African wine arrives.

Harvey was that Williams & Humbert in the place you mentioned, if it was Miss Humbert also had a farm at Lockerly breeding Pedigree Angus cattle IIRC, Buzzer.

Sorry John, not able to get on the PC much these days. The name rings a bell, Williams and Humbert but a step to far for this old brain.
I remember old Mr Shepherd showing me port bottled for Harrods in London which they then sold for about £30 a bottle (then) and the same port bottled for Sainsburys selling at about £4.50 (then) only difference was the label, sure that still applies. Harvey

HRS:

Buzzer:

HRS:

DEANB:
1965 First load of South African wine arrives.

Harvey was that Williams & Humbert in the place you mentioned, if it was Miss Humbert also had a farm at Lockerly breeding Pedigree Angus cattle IIRC, Buzzer.

Sorry John, not able to get on the PC much these days. The name rings a bell, Williams and Humbert but a step to far for this old brain.
I remember old Mr Shepherd showing me port bottled for Harrods in London which they then sold for about £30 a bottle (then) and the same port bottled for Sainsburys selling at about £4.50 (then) only difference was the label, sure that still applies. Harvey

The Humberts did have a farm at Lockerly,as well as a property on the Spanish estate (Jerez area). There have been several generations of Humberts involved in the business. Testwood House bottled the various W & H products,.which were then distributed throughout UK & abroad. Probably the best known was Dry Sack sherry.
Williams & Humbert had a London office & bond at 39 Crutched Friars. It was an awful location for deliveries as the narrow streets in the City of London were designed for use by horse & carts.
Scotland was a big market for Williams & Humbert.Every Friday,16 tons of W&H products would be hand balled from the Testwood bond onto an 8 wheeler for delivery the following Tuesday to Glasgow bond (and hand balled off) No pallets or fork trucks !
One of the issues was potential frost damage during the winter months,so W & H insisted on the use of a quilted sheet before the main tarpaulins were used.Never a favourite with drivers as it weighed a ton & could never be folded properly !
IIRC, Testwood Vintners Ltd took over Testwood House in the early 70’s distributing a wide range of wines & spirits

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Glasgow was always a sought after run as it involved 10hrs double time on Sunday (though you could always leave a little later !!) Straight drop in Glasgow Tuesday morning & reload 16T of Camp coffee ( a somewhat acquired taste!) for the Rownhams depot. If things were going well, The Rosebank at Gretna would be the objective. If not, another night at Glasgow’s Sally Army (London Rd ?) Wednesday night Sunset Penkridge & Thursday night Winchester/Romsey/Chandlers Ford area (depending where you lived) ready to run in & tip Friday morning.
Straight forward,but blxxdy hard work. The Leyland .600 engine enabled a top speed of 34 mph.No power steering (if you stood up, you could exert more pull on the wheel in a tight manoeuvre) It was necessary to develop the ability to roll a cigarette whilst steering with the forearms. Terrible noise & vibrations .The ‘24’ cab " sounded like 10000 rivets travelling in the same direction " according to one driver. knocking it into neutral whilst going downhill gave some relief. Thick blankets over the engine cover,overnight case on passenger seat,no radio or music. With a high centre of gravity ability to ‘read’ the road & remember some of the worst cambers was essential Passenger footwell used as storage for Jack & handle,crowbar,tins of Easy Start,hessian ropes (if wet,could stand up on their own !) gloves & everything a driver needed…happy days

Just posted an article from 1963 on the heavy haulage thread about Sunters.

Anyone recognise the railway crossing in Southampton they had to negotiate ■■

Click on once.

DEANB:
Just posted an article from 1963 on the heavy haulage thread about Sunters.

Anyone recognise the railway crossing in Southampton they had to negotiate ■■

Click on once.

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That’s Mount Pleasant railway crossing, Mount Pleasant Rd St Mary’s

Robthedog

part of the abnormal/high load route to avoid gasworks bridge on northam road

roolechat:
The Humberts did have a farm at Lockerly,as well as a property on the Spanish estate (Jerez area). There have been several generations of Humberts involved in the business. Testwood House bottled the various W & H products,.which were then distributed throughout UK & abroad. Probably the best known was Dry Sack sherry.
Williams & Humbert had a London office & bond at 39 Crutched Friars. It was an awful location for deliveries as the narrow streets in the City of London were designed for use by horse & carts.
Scotland was a big market for Williams & Humbert.Every Friday,16 tons of W&H products would be hand balled from the Testwood bond onto an 8 wheeler for delivery the following Tuesday to Glasgow bond (and hand balled off) No pallets or fork trucks !
One of the issues was potential frost damage during the winter months,so W & H insisted on the use of a quilted sheet before the main tarpaulins were used.Never a favourite with drivers as it weighed a ton & could never be folded properly !
IIRC, Testwood Vintners Ltd took over Testwood House in the early 70’s distributing a wide range of wines & spirits

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Glasgow was always a sought after run as it involved 10hrs double time on Sunday (though you could always leave a little later !!) Straight drop in Glasgow Tuesday morning & reload 16T of Camp coffee ( a somewhat acquired taste!) for the Rownhams depot. If things were going well, The Rosebank at Gretna would be the objective. If not, another night at Glasgow’s Sally Army (London Rd ?) Wednesday night Sunset Penkridge & Thursday night Winchester/Romsey/Chandlers Ford area (depending where you lived) ready to run in & tip Friday morning.
Straight forward,but blxxdy hard work. The Leyland .600 engine enabled a top speed of 34 mph.No power steering (if you stood up, you could exert more pull on the wheel in a tight manoeuvre) It was necessary to develop the ability to roll a cigarette whilst steering with the forearms. Terrible noise & vibrations .The ‘24’ cab " sounded like 10000 rivets travelling in the same direction " according to one driver. knocking it into neutral whilst going downhill gave some relief. Thick blankets over the engine cover,overnight case on passenger seat,no radio or music. With a high centre of gravity ability to ‘read’ the road & remember some of the worst cambers was essential Passenger footwell used as storage for Jack & handle,crowbar,tins of Easy Start,hessian ropes (if wet,could stand up on their own !) gloves & everything a driver needed…happy days

Good write up on a local company…

I’m not 100% sure, but i think that the chap giving the notes to the driver might be Len Seldon, the TM at Victory in the '60’s…if it was him, he was a real gentleman. Perhaps Dispatcher will remember him.

Hi Dave

Remember Len well at one time he had a flat above us(when i was a boy) I dont think thats him looks a bit tall but i may be wrong
Went to the Rownhams site when it was first purchased

robthedog:

DEANB:
Just posted an article from 1963 on the heavy haulage thread about Sunters.

Anyone recognise the railway crossing in Southampton they had to negotiate ■■

Click on once.

0

That’s Mount Pleasant railway crossing, Mount Pleasant Rd St Mary’s

Thanks Rob,just looked on google maps changed a bit since that pic was taken,houses been pulled down. :wink:

DISPATCHER:
Robthedog

part of the abnormal/high load route to avoid gasworks bridge on northam road

Cheers “DISPATCHER” :smiley:

Fergie47:

roolechat:
The Humberts did have a farm at Lockerly,as well as a property on the Spanish estate (Jerez area). There have been several generations of Humberts involved in the business. Testwood House bottled the various W & H products,.which were then distributed throughout UK & abroad. Probably the best known was Dry Sack sherry.
Williams & Humbert had a London office & bond at 39 Crutched Friars. It was an awful location for deliveries as the narrow streets in the City of London were designed for use by horse & carts.
Scotland was a big market for Williams & Humbert.Every Friday,16 tons of W&H products would be hand balled from the Testwood bond onto an 8 wheeler for delivery the following Tuesday to Glasgow bond (and hand balled off) No pallets or fork trucks !
One of the issues was potential frost damage during the winter months,so W & H insisted on the use of a quilted sheet before the main tarpaulins were used.Never a favourite with drivers as it weighed a ton & could never be folded properly !
IIRC, Testwood Vintners Ltd took over Testwood House in the early 70’s distributing a wide range of wines & spirits

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Glasgow was always a sought after run as it involved 10hrs double time on Sunday (though you could always leave a little later !!) Straight drop in Glasgow Tuesday morning & reload 16T of Camp coffee ( a somewhat acquired taste!) for the Rownhams depot. If things were going well, The Rosebank at Gretna would be the objective. If not, another night at Glasgow’s Sally Army (London Rd ?) Wednesday night Sunset Penkridge & Thursday night Winchester/Romsey/Chandlers Ford area (depending where you lived) ready to run in & tip Friday morning.
Straight forward,but blxxdy hard work. The Leyland .600 engine enabled a top speed of 34 mph.No power steering (if you stood up, you could exert more pull on the wheel in a tight manoeuvre) It was necessary to develop the ability to roll a cigarette whilst steering with the forearms. Terrible noise & vibrations .The ‘24’ cab " sounded like 10000 rivets travelling in the same direction " according to one driver. knocking it into neutral whilst going downhill gave some relief. Thick blankets over the engine cover,overnight case on passenger seat,no radio or music. With a high centre of gravity ability to ‘read’ the road & remember some of the worst cambers was essential Passenger footwell used as storage for Jack & handle,crowbar,tins of Easy Start,hessian ropes (if wet,could stand up on their own !) gloves & everything a driver needed…happy days

Good write up on a local company…

I’m not 100% sure, but i think that the chap giving the notes to the driver might be Len Seldon, the TM at Victory in the '60’s…if it was him, he was a real gentleman. Perhaps Dispatcher will remember him.

Seldon joined VT in 1965 & at that time had a house in Winchester Rd, Botley (near the jnct with Woodhouse lane).He was never the TM,but worked under several-his first being a blunt yorkshireman who joined from Calder Valley Transport .
Other Hill “exiles” at that time included various drivers & 2 workshop fitters- “Wimpey” & a chap who lived in Botley Rd,Burridge
Victory’s Rownhams operations moved from Southampton to Rownhams in 1956

roolechat:

Fergie47:

roolechat:
The Humberts did have a farm at Lockerly,as well as a property on the Spanish estate (Jerez area). There have been several generations of Humberts involved in the business. Testwood House bottled the various W & H products,.which were then distributed throughout UK & abroad. Probably the best known was Dry Sack sherry.
Williams & Humbert had a London office & bond at 39 Crutched Friars. It was an awful location for deliveries as the narrow streets in the City of London were designed for use by horse & carts.
Scotland was a big market for Williams & Humbert.Every Friday,16 tons of W&H products would be hand balled from the Testwood bond onto an 8 wheeler for delivery the following Tuesday to Glasgow bond (and hand balled off) No pallets or fork trucks !
One of the issues was potential frost damage during the winter months,so W & H insisted on the use of a quilted sheet before the main tarpaulins were used.Never a favourite with drivers as it weighed a ton & could never be folded properly !
IIRC, Testwood Vintners Ltd took over Testwood House in the early 70’s distributing a wide range of wines & spirits

0

Glasgow was always a sought after run as it involved 10hrs double time on Sunday (though you could always leave a little later !!) Straight drop in Glasgow Tuesday morning & reload 16T of Camp coffee ( a somewhat acquired taste!) for the Rownhams depot. If things were going well, The Rosebank at Gretna would be the objective. If not, another night at Glasgow’s Sally Army (London Rd ?) Wednesday night Sunset Penkridge & Thursday night Winchester/Romsey/Chandlers Ford area (depending where you lived) ready to run in & tip Friday morning.
Straight forward,but blxxdy hard work. The Leyland .600 engine enabled a top speed of 34 mph.No power steering (if you stood up, you could exert more pull on the wheel in a tight manoeuvre) It was necessary to develop the ability to roll a cigarette whilst steering with the forearms. Terrible noise & vibrations .The ‘24’ cab " sounded like 10000 rivets travelling in the same direction " according to one driver. knocking it into neutral whilst going downhill gave some relief. Thick blankets over the engine cover,overnight case on passenger seat,no radio or music. With a high centre of gravity ability to ‘read’ the road & remember some of the worst cambers was essential Passenger footwell used as storage for Jack & handle,crowbar,tins of Easy Start,hessian ropes (if wet,could stand up on their own !) gloves & everything a driver needed…happy days

Good write up on a local company…

I’m not 100% sure, but i think that the chap giving the notes to the driver might be Len Seldon, the TM at Victory in the '60’s…if it was him, he was a real gentleman. Perhaps Dispatcher will remember him.

Seldon joined VT in 1965 & at that time had a house in Winchester Rd, Botley (near the jnct with Woodhouse lane).He was never the TM,but worked under several-his first being a blunt yorkshireman who joined from Calder Valley Transport .
Other Hill “exiles” at that time included various drivers & 2 workshop fitters- “Wimpey” & a chap who lived in Botley Rd,Burridge
Victory’s Rownhams operations moved from Southampton to Rownhams in 1956

Rulechat would you have any info on a person called Vacchina or Vac transport as I have a murmer in the grey cells that this person was involved with Victory at some stage, believe he lived in New Road, Landford, cheers Buzzer

roolechat:
Seldon joined VT in 1965 & at that time had a house in Winchester Rd, Botley (near the jnct with Woodhouse lane).He was never the TM,but worked under several-his first being a blunt yorkshireman who joined from Calder Valley Transport .
Other Hill “exiles” at that time included various drivers & 2 workshop fitters- “Wimpey” & a chap who lived in Botley Rd,Burridge
Victory’s Rownhams operations moved from Southampton to Rownhams in 1956

The other chap was Eric Dearlove, also, another ex Hill fitter Ernie Hales, who after a short time went to work at Highway Trailers at Easliegh Airport, I think Whimpey was either workshop foreman or manager…

Fergie47:

roolechat:
Seldon joined VT in 1965 & at that time had a house in Winchester Rd, Botley (near the jnct with Woodhouse lane).He was never the TM,but worked under several-his first being a blunt yorkshireman who joined from Calder Valley Transport .
Other Hill “exiles” at that time included various drivers & 2 workshop fitters- “Wimpey” & a chap who lived in Botley Rd,Burridge
Victory’s Rownhams operations moved from Southampton to Rownhams in 1956

The other chap was Eric Dearlove, also, another ex Hill fitter Ernie Hales, who after a short time went to work at Highway Trailers at Easliegh Airport, I think Whimpey was either workshop foreman or manager…

Thank you,I couldn’t remember his name. Eric always had a kind & helpfull disposition. Wimpey was W/S foreman

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Richard Green posted this RARE photo elsewhere of Micky “Olio” on the TT Venturer sat opposite some old bloke! I know who it is but how many others?

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Bakers Transport moving some Pirelli cable drums in 1967.

Click on pages twice to read.

Hi

Found this old cutting whilst having a clear out at home Portsmouth News 1984 seems like yesterday !

Sorry about the quality I’m not as good as Dean !!

Regards
Richard
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Gazzer just found this on FB can anyone read the number plate as it looks very close to your old girl, Buzzer

EAA 769 W

Buzzer
Looks like EAA 769W registration.