ainacs:
Been away for a few days to a small rally at Hertford
Aother of Monty’s pics
Regards Pat
Morning Pat, Would you have been travelling north on the M80 at ■■■■■■■■■■■ last Sunday the 14th April, in your camper van ■■?
I was heading South and a camper van very much like the one in your pictures was heading north, about 7.15 pm. very distinctive pattern. Harvey
Morning all, sorry to tell you hrs that Pat (rip) died in a tragic road accident about 3 year’s ago the pictures were some that Pat had put on a few years back and someone has re posted.
TT moved round to Alexandra Terminal in 1980,but FE 5 can be seen on TCF berth & FE 3 laid up at 26/7 berth
Only a few SCAC trlrs in 2 North & a few more parked in what had been MacAndrews MacPak compound
Not much freight in Normandy’s compound (some imported Spanish bodied coaches) so photograph probably taken in August
In 1967 P & O subsidiary General Steam Navigation formed Normandy Ferries in conjunction with S.A.G.A to operate the Southampton/Le Havre service with “Dragon” & “Leopard”.In 1976,P & O acquired the Leopard & by 1980,the Normandy Ferries name was dropped & both vessels were rebranded as P & O Ferries.
In 1971 another P & O subsidiary-Southern Ferries-commenced a service to Lisbon & Tangier (later Algeciras was added).The vessel used was the cruise ferry " Eagle".Between 1971 & 1975 “Eagle” suffered many uncomfortable crossings of the Bay of Biscay & it was not uncommon to see damaged/destroyed cars & caravans on the quayside which had been landed from the Eagle.
To complement the service,a freighter-“Falcon” was soon added though Moroccan freight was transhipped to " Eagle" in Lisbon for onward movement to Tangier
Eagle on No 2(S) & Falcon on 3 berth
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Loading Falcon
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Both Normandy & Southern Ferries were P & O subsidiarys as were Ferrymasters who became large users of both services
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Tug with double stacked trlrs on Falcon’s vehicle lift from Main deck to boat deck
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Normandy Ferries enjoyed substantial increases in freight volumes betwen 1967 & 1970 & a new Customs examination shed for export traffic was built,leaving the existing facility for import traffic.
The new shed could accommodate 9 trailers & had a catwalk to enable Customs officers to inspect trailer roofs
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A 50 Ton weighbridge was also installed to catch any haulier exceeding gross or axle weights,though there is no danger of this Dock Engineers 1954 A type Bedford exceeding anything !
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Hi RC that new shed you mentioned for customs IIRC was just inside the compound on the RHS and alot of customs men used to come to work with Thermos flasks but with no tea in them, of course they were used to confiscate illicit bounty out of the wine and brandy tankers. Remember well L.Giraud lorries with machine finished stainless tanks as they were regular through the port back in the day, Buzzer
Tpts Leon Giraud from Vitry Sur Seine were regulars via TCF-as were the green Mercs of Tpts Andre Villata @ Normandy Ferries
Giraud carried wine,beer,fruit juices,cider & after washing out,reloaded with gin from London & whisky from Glasgow/Inverness/Invergordan
The introduction of both the TCF & NF ferry services enabled the British haulage industry to quickly establish & develop European services but,IMO, we allowed the Europeans to develop the bulk liquid market to/from the Uk. In 1968 Giraud applied (& was granted ) a B licence for bulk liquids from TCF Southampton.One of the objectors was Bulwark Transport who admitted they were not interested in international transport,but only the transport from Southampton. It took operators like Robert Armstrong to later challenge the foreign monopoly.
Import & export loads always required a visit to 9 Shed for examination/dipping/TIR inspection & Customs & Waterguard officials adopted various methods of sampling the tank contents !
On one occasion,a young dock runner from a well know local agent had to be rescued after falling into a wine tanker whilst “assisting” in the dipping process.Apparently it required many people to climb onto the tank to assist in his rescue-possibly with empty Thermos flasks !
Twice a week, a Calberson artic would arrive with a variety of French cheeses destined for a well known London cheese specialist.Again,these consignments were always subject to examinations & inspections ( both Customs & Waterguard offices at 9 shed were always stocked with a variety of comestibles !)
In the early 70’s,Tpts Giraud were the largest European transporter of liquid foodstuffs & later,as Groupe Giraud, embarked on rapid European expansion taking over both MJL International from Leeds & in 1994, Barbour European from Stirling.
A 1970 AEC Mammoth Major 6 x 4 T/U operated by the Bird Group from Stratford Upon Avon who,as scrap processors,toured scrapyards crushing cars into bales.
These self contained mobile crushing plants were known as “Goldfingers” after the 1964 James Bond film where one was used to crush a Lincoln Continental.
This 35T model waiting to ship to France is pictured outside TCF’s Freight Office no doubt awaiting the tape measure,as every freight item had to be measured to ensure correct stowage on the vessel & also for charging purposes, as ferry invoices were based on the length of the vehicle.
To save time measuring, unaccompanied trailers often had their length as a prefix to the fleet number eg ABC 8/1234 or ABC 10/1234 & the ferry operator therefore knew the length for stowage & charging purposes. With the introduction of 12 metre trlrs,one well known operator continued to prefix the new trlrs with 10 & the ferry company couldn’t work out why their vessel stowage plans worked on paper,but not in practice. When confronted,the haulier blamed the signwriting company !!
roolechat:
A 1970 AEC Mammoth Major 6 x 4 T/U operated by the Bird Group from Stratford Upon Avon who,as scrap processors,toured scrapyards crushing cars into bales.
These self contained mobile crushing plants were known as “Goldfingers” after the 1964 James Bond film where one was used to crush a Lincoln Continental.
This 35T model waiting to ship to France is pictured outside TCF’s Freight Office no doubt awaiting the tape measure,as every freight item had to be measured to ensure correct stowage on the vessel & also for charging purposes, as ferry invoices were based on the length of the vehicle.
To save time measuring, unaccompanied trailers often had their length as a prefix to the fleet number eg ABC 8/1234 or ABC 10/1234 & the ferry operator therefore knew the length for stowage & charging purposes. With the introduction of 12 metre trlrs,one well known operator continued to prefix the new trlrs with 10 & the ferry company couldn’t work out why their vessel stowage plans worked on paper,but not in practice. When confronted,the haulier blamed the signwriting company !!
I bet loads of companies knocked the odd metre of vehicles when booking ferries “roolechat” to try and get cheaper prices. Remember seeing
the ferry staff regularly getting the tape measure out !
Any of you chaps remember Highway trailers based at Eastleigh airport ■■?
Hi Dean I remember Highway trailers that operated from Eastleigh airport, when they finished another company took over the premises that did shot blasting on a commercial scale and they did lots of piling bound for the Thames flood barrier relief scheme back in the day. A lot of the loads were run overnight as they were long and always overweight, cheers Buzzer.
Redneck Kieran:
My Dads company, S.M. Trucking.Ltd I don’t suppose any of you Lads have any more photos or Motorway Spotting photos of any of them? Thanks.
Hello mate, I’m getting complaints about your ‘big’ pics: can you try and downsize them so that they fit on the threads? I’ve sent you a PM. Cheers, Robert
EDIT to say that I’ve downsized the ones you posted above
Good morning all,
Buzzer posted “Highway Trailers” someone will put me right but did they not make trailers way back, in the airport ■■? Harvey
PS, remember Gordon Keeble also made there cars there.
Buzzer:
Hi Dean I remember Highway trailers that operated from Eastleigh airport, when they finished another company took over the premises that did shot blasting on a commercial scale and they did lots of piling bound for the Thames flood barrier relief scheme back in the day. A lot of the loads were run overnight as they were long and always overweight, cheers Buzzer.
Thanks for the info Buzzer and Harvey. Bit before my time chaps !
Redneck Kieran:
My Dads company, S.M. Trucking.Ltd I don’t suppose any of you Lads have any more photos or Motorway Spotting photos of any of them? Thanks.
This could be one of your dads Volvo’s. Has the red roof and red lower part of the cab ?
Redneck Kieran:
My Dads company, S.M. Trucking.Ltd I don’t suppose any of you Lads have any more photos or Motorway Spotting photos of any of them? Thanks.
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This could be one of your dads Volvo’s. Has the red roof and red lower part of the cab ?
Redneck Kieran:
My Dads company, S.M. Trucking.Ltd I don’t suppose any of you Lads have any more photos or Motorway Spotting photos of any of them? Thanks.
This could be one of your dads Volvo’s. Has the red roof and red lower part of the cab ?
Hi all, i remember a tall thin guy with long fair hair can’t remember his name but he drove the S M trucking Scania with the big bull bar pulling for STS but it was a few year’s ago when we did the television’s all over the place.
G.C Munton were based at Ruskington (Lincs).Following denationalisation,they acquired several ex BRS vehicles on general haulage. By 1960,they were shipping unaccompanied trailers to Europe via Tilbury & Dover.
They became specialists in heavy haulage/low loaders & out of guage traffics & were regular shippers through Southampton
In early 1967,they shipped a metal press from Grantham to Fiat Turin & 2 of the 4 Munton Fodens involved are shown waiting to ship at TCF.