Load restraints

nick2008:
Nothing looks better than a well sheeted roped load as I always thought it showed a skill that only a few can really do today

I saw one last week on a JR Adams motor that was immaculate, a complete work of art. Big sheets front and back, then roped and a fly sheet over the ropes. No rat tails anywhere, tucked and folded properly at both ends and sheets pulled tight as a hospital bed. Made me feel quite nostalgic…then I remembered chasing sheets across the yard on a windy day, trying to lift wet sheets on to the top of a load, getting caught in a downpour…no thanks.

sayersy:

nick2008:
Nothing looks better than a well sheeted roped load as I always thought it showed a skill that only a few can really do today

I saw one last week on a JR Adams motor that was immaculate, a complete work of art. Big sheets front and back, then roped and a fly sheet over the ropes. No rat tails anywhere, tucked and folded properly at both ends and sheets pulled tight as a hospital bed. Made me feel quite nostalgic…then I remembered chasing sheets across the yard on a windy day, trying to lift wet sheets on to the top of a load, getting caught in a downpour…no thanks.

but that kept us fit though :wink:

We had this at our cpc coarse, and what we were told,was the we had to strap all pallets to the trailer,but the kicker was you have to barrel hitch the load,so anyone with squashable loads are going to be in trouble.

rha.uk.net/campaigning/press … of_pallets

Secure loading on the upper deck

The guidance notes set out current requirements of the enforcement bodies in respect of the upper deck of curtainsiders: that pallets be single-stacked; constitute light freight in line with guidance (and the goods must be secured effectively to the pallet); and that all the internal straps are properly engaged

No Offence d-d-I but that pours Ad-yellow all over what your boss has been told then :wink:

fleetnews.co.uk/news/2014/4/ … ets/52276/

The Road Haulage Association (RHA) has made important additions to its suite of guidance notes for members on the safe loading of goods vehicles.

New guidance has been issued on securing palletised freight onto curtain-sided vehicles and a solution for improved securing of pallets on the upper deck of double-deck trailers has been proposed and is going forward to operational trials.

The guidance has been developed by Ray Engley, head of technical services at RHA, with a working group of RHA members from pallet network TPN: Trevor Edden of TWE Haulage; Mark Duggan of Eezehaul; Paul Johnson of Transervice Express Transport; Mark Watkins of MWT; Martyn Bowers of Pallet Express Systems; and Tom Cassin, health and safety manager at TPN.

The enforcement agencies DVSA and HSE/HSL have been part of the process and have agreed the guidance notes.

Secure loading on the upper deck

The guidance notes set out current requirements of the enforcement bodies in respect of the upper deck of curtainsiders: that pallets be single-stacked; constitute light freight in line with guidance (and the goods must be secured effectively to the pallet); and that all the internal straps are properly engaged.

The guidance proposes the use of an additional, internal curtain-and-strap arrangement that has been developed by the working group and which will be trialled by several hauliers to ensure its continuing operational practicality. The straps are integral with the curtain and go inboard under the top deck to improve containment. The curtain is operated from ground level.

The first hauliers to agree to trial the system are from TPN.

This arrangement, which is freely available to any operator and trailer makers to adopt, will be of particular interest to hauliers specifying new trailers. It can also be fitted retrospectively.

The benefit of the internal curtain with integral straps is that it contains the pallets more effectively than using internal straps on their own. This improves safety and security both at the roadside and when the trailer is to be unloaded.

Mark Kendall, operations director at TPN, said: “Both TPN Members and the Hub have been very pleased to work alongside RHA’s load security expert Ray Engley to achieve a potential solution to one of the most pressing safety and operational issues facing the sector. We look forward to the results of our operational trials.”

An example of the internal curtain with straps will be shown by Montracon at the CV Show, at the NEC this week.

Forward and aft movement

The guide sets out in simple terms what the enforcement bodies are looking for in terms of forward and aft security of pallets, particularly on part-loads and diminishing loads.

It also highlights a solution, using adjustable internal sling straps (operated from ground level) that are secured at the front and rear of the truck body or trailer.

Future-proofing a progressive industry

Engley said: “Securing the top deck of double-deck curtain-siders has been a challenging issue for the industry. I am delighted that the Association has been able to work with member companies to propose what we hope will be a solution for the future that meets the requirements of regulators and operators.”

Kendal said: “Palletised freight distribution using double-deckers has been one of the industry’s key innovations, in terms of service levels of businesses, growth and carbon savings. The compliance requirements are also changing and this guidance provides a solution that meets the needs of both regulators and progressive hauliers.”

Welcoming the new guidance note, Mark Horton, DVSA’s Traffic Enforcement Scheme Manager said: “DVSA have stepped up their enforcement of safety regulations, not least in terms of double-deck curtainsiders. We have already seen significant improvements in the past year but the sector needs to make further improvements. The RHA has produced a valuable guide to what is required today and a pointer to the standards that will be expected in the future.”

well just to let every one know i had my load refused today because i had ratchet straps on goods and caused about 10 grands worth of damage to the freight as goods were all plastic frames so i told my govoner its not my fault as all freight must be strapped so he told customer and they said that they are now going to take me to court to claim for damaged goods so bring it on and as of now i will be using internal straps so lets see what happens

Looks like this will be a thing of the past soon


dualflags:
well just to let every one know i had my load refused today because i had ratchet straps on goods and caused about 10 grands worth of damage to the freight as goods were all plastic frames so i told my govoner its not my fault as all freight must be strapped so he told customer and they said that they are now going to take me to court to claim for damaged goods so bring it on and as of now i will be using internal straps so lets see what happens

see your other post …to be honest it’ll come down to the carrier ie you or your company ie boss there’s nothing to stop you using internal restraints … you /the haulier has damaged good that you were carrying for said customer and therefore should have in place a way of carrying said load.it could be argued that you need something like this then…

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Why haven’t we ever utilised Euroliners/Tilts and the like in this country? Is it because British drivers cant be bothered with the stripping/rebuilding? Surely with the new rules it’ll take no longer than having to strap every pallet down.

nickyboy:
Why haven’t we ever utilised Euroliners/Tilts and the like in this country? Is it because British drivers cant be bothered with the stripping/rebuilding? Surely with the new rules it’ll take no longer than having to strap every pallet down.

you still have to restrain/secure the load so that blows that away :unamused:

nick2008:

sayersy:

nick2008:
Nothing looks better than a well sheeted roped load as I always thought it showed a skill that only a few can really do today

I saw one last week on a JR Adams motor that was immaculate, a complete work of art. Big sheets front and back, then roped and a fly sheet over the ropes. No rat tails anywhere, tucked and folded properly at both ends and sheets pulled tight as a hospital bed. Made me feel quite nostalgic…then I remembered chasing sheets across the yard on a windy day, trying to lift wet sheets on to the top of a load, getting caught in a downpour…no thanks.

but that kept us fit though :wink:

Very true…the original full body work-out! The funny thing is…I’d really like to do it again…just once, to see if I still can. Did anybody load reels “on the roll” from the paper mill at Snodland? They brought in that awful fall arrest harness where you clipped yourself to a beam on the roof of the loading bay

sayersy:

nick2008:

sayersy:

nick2008:
Nothing looks better than a well sheeted roped load as I always thought it showed a skill that only a few can really do today

I saw one last week on a JR Adams motor that was immaculate, a complete work of art. Big sheets front and back, then roped and a fly sheet over the ropes. No rat tails anywhere, tucked and folded properly at both ends and sheets pulled tight as a hospital bed. Made me feel quite nostalgic…then I remembered chasing sheets across the yard on a windy day, trying to lift wet sheets on to the top of a load, getting caught in a downpour…no thanks.

but that kept us fit though :wink:

Very true…the original full body work-out! The funny thing is…I’d really like to do it again…just once, to see if I still can. Did anybody load reels “on the roll” from the paper mill at Snodland? They brought in that awful fall arrest harness where you clipped yourself to a beam on the roof of the loading bay

dunno about all the climbing now lol but I can still wrap an bowtie it all … yeah did reels on roll and on end out of Snodland, Kemsley and the dock we used to do Bristol evening post the express at Cardiff also Purnells at Paulton … to name just a few :wink: :wink:

nick2008:

nickyboy:
Why haven’t we ever utilised Euroliners/Tilts and the like in this country? Is it because British drivers cant be bothered with the stripping/rebuilding? Surely with the new rules it’ll take no longer than having to strap every pallet down.

you still have to restrain/secure the load so that blows that away :unamused:

Thought the solid bars inside would negate having to strap it all.

nickyboy:

nick2008:

nickyboy:
Why haven’t we ever utilised Euroliners/Tilts and the like in this country? Is it because British drivers cant be bothered with the stripping/rebuilding? Surely with the new rules it’ll take no longer than having to strap every pallet down.

you still have to restrain/secure the load so that blows that away :unamused:

Thought the solid bars inside would negate having to strap it all.

nope the load can still move around …

dafdave:

Swampey2418:
So there is some truth on whats been knocking about… no longer a rumour

To me, a cutain sided trailer is just a flat bed with a fancy cover :smiley:, don’t really like them internal ones…so it looks like companies are gonna have to splash out on more straps… I personally carry my own ratchet straps now, seems when I have been out on the odd occasion with a curtain sider the internal ones where damaged…

Yeh it might seem a bit more work but who cares…

That’s ok until you have to do trl swaps down the road as I did on eu work,what then?cant undo trl because its sealed.You lose your straps.Only alternative is for boss to buy every driver a set of 24 straps and ratchets,a lot of exspense.
regards dave.

I load strap down & change trailers, I have to go find straps every shift, & if i bought my own straps I would have to take them off at my drop point, then create a lot more work & lost time for both the next driver & myself. If I left the straps on I would be unlikely to see them again, & would be without straps for my next load. Think how much it would cost out of my own pocket, as a number of full setts would be required :open_mouth: :open_mouth:
It would be better if a full set was allocated to each trailer, & I was notified if another driver was needing extra straps, then take them some spares.

We do trailer swaps. The unit goes out with a trailer with onwards goods and with 15 ratchets and straps in the side locker. You do a change over with the Scottish drivers who have chipboard on and give them the number of straps and ratchets they’ve put on the load. When we’ve got back to the yard and de-strapped the load we always end up with 15 ratchets and straps back in the side locker.

As to the comment VOSA not having a clue, the reason they’re tightening up is we are the worst country IN THE WHOLE OF THE EUROPEAN UNION for having loads come off the backs of trucks.

Conor:
As to the comment VOSA not having a clue, the reason they’re tightening up is we are the worst country IN THE WHOLE OF THE EUROPEAN UNION for having loads come off the backs of trucks.

Is there a link for this?

My research has been unable to locate a single instance of someone being injured due to palletised goods coming off a curtainsider in transit.

This sounds a bit like your constant claims that Dcpc was introduced because it existing drivers need training (which is totally untrue).

nickyboy:

nick2008:

nickyboy:
Why haven’t we ever utilised Euroliners/Tilts and the like in this country? Is it because British drivers cant be bothered with the stripping/rebuilding? Surely with the new rules it’ll take no longer than having to strap every pallet down.

you still have to restrain/secure the load so that blows that away :unamused:

Thought the solid bars inside would negate having to strap it all.

Pretty much if it’s uniform pallets, stillages or cages. Lots of supermarket curtainsiders where you just put bars down the side and strap at the back.

Same through out this job a load of a holes who know jack somehow get to pontificate and judge how “the job should be done”
No experience,no expertise,just BS.
You can even prove them wrong but it dont mean nothing

Always been a little bit like that but now its taken to the “nth” degree.

Cant understand why some ■■■ in a suit gets listened to when anybody with an iota of sense knows that they are full o ■■■■.

Suppose its the same in any vocation the crap will always float to the top.
What really ■■■■■■ me is that people believe these jerks.

sayersy:
Did anybody load reels “on the roll” from the paper mill at Snodland? They brought in that awful fall arrest harness where you clipped yourself to a beam on the roof of the loading bay

then nearly castrated yourself when you stepped off the trailer and ended up suspended 5 inches off the ground as the thing locked up :laughing: