nick172sport:
sackable offence at most firms also vosa are clamping down on overspeeds be warned
Don’t think so.overspeeds aren’t infringments if you are limited to 85kph and let it roll over that it comes up overspeed but in reality its hardly an overspeed.never heard of people getting done for speeding off your card just as you cant dispute a case using card as evidence.there are too many tall tales of what vostapo do you for its a load of rubbish.just get a copy of the guidelines of what they can fine you for.
weeto:
I have heard of overspeed being classed as an infringement at some firms, to many and your on a diseplinary.
Some companies have an in house rule that you are not allowed to exceed the limited speed.
The problem is they don’t always make it clear its an in house rule and try to tell you its illegal to exceed 90kph on the m/way as the driving assessor at Woodsides Preston did with me.
Turned out the overspeeds shown on the print out weren’t even from my shift!
(My first few days on digi tachs a few years ago now).
bigvern1:
Maybe the div knocked it out of gear and let it coast.
Ah, the old Scotsman’s overdrive eh? Often used whilst descending Shap in a Southerly direction whilst chatting on the CB I believe in years gone by, if not still today by some.
nick172sport:
sackable offence at most firms also vosa are clamping down on overspeeds be warned
A regular OS marker (under 60mph ish) would be of no interest to VOSA at all.
Under what regulation do you think they would have an interest?
nick172sport:
sackable offence at most firms also vosa are clamping down on overspeeds be warned
Complete and utter rubbish ! ! !
(I wanted to use one word to say that, but the auto-censor wouldn’t let me )
Some firms have decided that ‘overspeeding’ is a company rules infringement and will take disciplinary action against offenders. This is entirely voluntary by the company and they will have informed their drivers of this. Probably somewhere in the companies drivers handbook. Some, not most.
VOSA can ‘take a dim view’ of ‘overspeeds’ as much as they like, however VOSA have the authority to enforce the law. They cannot change the law and ‘clamp down’ on a legal activity. The law is that on a motorway the speed limit for a truck is 60 mph. An overspeed warning occurs after 1 minute of driving at a speed of, or over, 91 kmh.
As long as we are only talking about overrunning a perfectly legal speed limiter whilst going down a hill (at up to 60 mph), not overriding a limiter and therefore making it illegal. VOSA don’t have the authority to ‘clamp down’ on overspeeds.
nick172sport:
sackable offence at most firms also vosa are clamping down on overspeeds be warned
Complete and utter rubbish ! ! !
(I wanted to use one word to say that, but the auto-censor wouldn’t let me )
Some firms have decided that ‘overspeeding’ is a company rules infringement and will take disciplinary action against offenders. This is entirely voluntary by the company and they will have informed their drivers of this. Probably somewhere in the companies drivers handbook. Some, not most.
VOSA can ‘take a dim view’ of ‘overspeeds’ as much as they like, however VOSA have the authority to enforce the law. They cannot change the law and ‘clamp down’ on a legal activity. The law is that on a motorway the speed limit for a truck is 60 mph. An overspeed warning occurs after 1 minute of driving at a speed of, or over, 91 kmh.
As long as we are only talking about overrunning a perfectly legal speed limiter whilst going down a hill (at up to 60 mph), not overriding a limiter and therefore making it illegal. VOSA don’t have the authority to ‘clamp down’ on overspeeds.
In so far as the phrase ’ clamp down’ is a wierd English thing that means,in this senario: We’ve been ‘turning -a-blind-eye’ but now we’ve suddenly got vision.
206doorman:
In so far as the phrase ’ clamp down’ is a wierd English thing that means,in this senario: We’ve been ‘turning -a-blind-eye’ but now we’ve suddenly got vision.
I don’t get where this ■■■■■■■■ comes from, or why anyone even thinks about believing it.
It makes no difference whether they’ve suddenly got vision or not. VOSA have not been turning a blind eye.
Overspeed warnings on a tachograph only tell you a truck has been doing over 90 kmh for more than a minute. 90 kmh is only 56mph. As the motorway speed limit is 60 mph there is absolutely nothing illegal in doing over 56, as long as you’re on a motorway. Therefore there is absolutely nothing to turn a blind eye to, or suddenly gain vision of.
You cannot interfere with a limiter and a limiter must not allow a truck to be driven by the engine to a speed more than 90 kmh. Running down a motorway hill at over 90kmh is not interfering with a limiter.
VOSA will not clamp down on overspeed warnings, because they CANNOT, because it isn’t against the law. It’s as simple and straightforward as that.
The Police can have you for letting your truck roll down a hill at 70 mph because that is speeding, which is against the law. They generally turn a blind eye to a bit over 60mph, but don’t kick the arse out of it and let it run on to 90mph. You can certainly expect them to get a bit narky at that.
slow2run:
Why are our limiters set to 90kph/56mph instead of the legal limit of 60mph?
A good question and one I’ve asked before and never had a proper answer other than like most things today, it’s an EU agreement/requirement/limit. Does anyone know?
And even odder, some are set to 85kph or 53mph. The DAF CF that I trained in was set to 85kph.
Updated
Answering my own question with a bit of searching, the requirement to fit limiters at 90kph was an EU Directive that was incorporated into British law in 1993 as an amendment to the Road Vehicle Regulations act. This made it the law to fit a limiter although the legal speed limit remains at 60mph.
Seems the 85kph/53mph setting is an option that operators chose to use to supposedly reduce emissions and/or fuel consumption, though I would take some convincing on that.
lankyphil:
Is there like a special trick to get past your limiter? I was coming down Windy Hill on the M62 outside Manchester yesterday, doing 89kph, but a bulk tanker sailed past me like I was standing still?
was it a red one by any chance ? if so it was me in Friday going home mode
nick172sport:
sackable offence at most firms also vosa are clamping down on overspeeds be warned
rubbish.
it can’t be used as evidence in the UK.
Evidence of what exactly?
Speeding im guessing as a tacho cannot prove where you were when you were speeding
You can guess, VOSA can only guess as well.
The only thing an overspeed warning does, is say you were doing over 90 km for more than a minute.
Over 90 km isn’t speeding on a motorway, so an overspeed isn’t even evidence of speeding.
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