I am a technological idiot and therefore unskilled, however BillyHunt is best driver ever and therefore super skilled
it was an art form years ago to drive trucks
you had to listen to the engine to get a gear in, as well as get the speed down and drive the truck so many years ago when things like eaton twin splitters were around and other crash boxes many of todays auto matic drivers just wouldnt be able to stick it out, let alone find there way around the country without the aid of a sat nav
so for me the job now is a micky take just big steering wheel attendants is the best way to describe it
most of the places the drivers go these days are huge with easy access instead of how tight all the old factorys used to be
so its downgraded itself with the improvements gone from skilled to semi skilled and now on par with a self stacker as you still need a weeks or 2 training to stack a self and learn the job
kr79:
dozy:
I did a 5 yr apprentiship at rolls Royce in bristol,eventually passing and going on too work in the development machine shop at patch way,universal grinder then went on jig- boring,very skilled job .
But I never enjoyed it,always wanted too drive trucks from a little one ,a dream,but as a lot of kids followed in my dad’s footsteps ,as he said you not doing a dead end job like truck driving .
One day I just said I don’t want to do this anymore,I want to drive trucks .
The rests history ,so I don’t think skilled/ no- skilled really matters ,it’s all about what you want to do,doesn’t matter what people think .Very true if you do a job you hate it will ruin your life
I can vote for this! ive done 7 years in the forces fixing weapons, lots of responsibility, safety, small parts, welding, managerial task, training up younger Armorers, ect, got a, Engineering degree out of it.
that aside, it is slowly making me into some one i am not,
so i agree doing a job you hate will ruin your life, I’ve always been interested in Lorry driving, i am hard working so not too fussed about the long hours, and hopefully i can apply my engineering knowledge into he job also,
looking forward to getting my licences and make a good career out of it.,
J
JS06:
kr79:
dozy:
I did a 5 yr apprentiship at rolls Royce in bristol,eventually passing and going on too work in the development machine shop at patch way,universal grinder then went on jig- boring,very skilled job .
But I never enjoyed it,always wanted too drive trucks from a little one ,a dream,but as a lot of kids followed in my dad’s footsteps ,as he said you not doing a dead end job like truck driving .
One day I just said I don’t want to do this anymore,I want to drive trucks .
The rests history ,so I don’t think skilled/ no- skilled really matters ,it’s all about what you want to do,doesn’t matter what people think .Very true if you do a job you hate it will ruin your life
I can vote for this! ive done 7 years in the forces fixing weapons, lots of responsibility, safety, small parts, welding, managerial task, training up younger Armorers, ect, got a, Engineering degree out of it.
that aside, it is slowly making me into some one i am not,
so i agree doing a job you hate will ruin your life, I’ve always been interested in Lorry driving, i am hard working so not too fussed about the long hours, and hopefully i can apply my engineering knowledge into he job also,
looking forward to getting my licences and make a good career out of it.,
J
Good example. I don’t care for what the public, segregation tables in the Times, or employers categorise my job class as. If I enjoy it that’s it. Only time it bothers me is when I see a drop I’m the job “class” stakes as viewed by the employment world as that affects my terms and prospects long term.
2 ads in paper today.
Consultant Aneisthetist wanted 80k euro.
Business development person 85k euro
So much for skill then.
It’s a myth that Doctors earn a fortune. Yes some do but most do not. I’ve a friend who’s a doctor. He earns good money but not a fortune. Equally misconceived are how much other professionals earn such as Barrister etc. Some top flight folk earn a lot but like many a profession, the masses in these professions earn less than during the hay day of capitalism. It’s why I’m sometimes suprised to hear on here what people expect to earn in driving. I’m not taking about £6.90 an hour, that’s very poor.
th2013:
Radar19:
I can put together an entire TV broadcast system. I can operate a broadcast camera and other broadcast equipment yet I find backing into a bay the hardest thing to do.(off topic) Nice to know there is another of me on here - I’m the engineer for a Grass Valley / BTS OB unit.
Do you drive the units as well?
Radar19:
th2013:
Radar19:
I can put together an entire TV broadcast system. I can operate a broadcast camera and other broadcast equipment yet I find backing into a bay the hardest thing to do.(off topic) Nice to know there is another of me on here - I’m the engineer for a Grass Valley / BTS OB unit.
Do you drive the units as well?
I normally drive the artic full of flight cases, stage, lights etc. but sometimes drive the OB unit. After setup and everything works or is fixed I normally do shading / racks.
kr79:
Juddian:
Driving a lorry properly is skilled, it’s only been deskilled because we’ve allowed, nay encouraged demanded and welcomed it, by chasing the simplest and easiest of jobs and the simplest to drive lorries, bum on seat steering wheel operative.Any fool can jump in and get a modern lorry moving, not much more input than selecting D and turning the wheel in many jobs, and each new generation of lorry gets more automated…what never fails to astound me is that drivers actually welcome this (ooh doesn’t the latest model from so and so look the part…
), then wonder why the pay is crap, then if they don’t like it any old johnny foreigner can replace them.
Train drivers, in comparison, didn’t allow their jobs to be dumbed down, hence why they earn nearly twice as much as most lorry drivers.
Im no expert but id imagine a modern train is easier to drive than a steam engine and haveing things like failsafe signals.
Its strong union backing thats enabled train drivers to keep pay and conditions up.
It took me 2 weeks to get my class 1 licence, 10 months to qualify as a train driver. that’s why wages , hours and conditions are so much better. the skills involved are similar in some ways but you can ■■■■ up in a truck 10 times a day and no one would be any the wiser. go the wrong way in a train or pass a red signal and your job is at risk. I think both jobs take a lot of skill if you are doing the job properly.
th2013:
Radar19:
th2013:
Radar19:
I can put together an entire TV broadcast system. I can operate a broadcast camera and other broadcast equipment yet I find backing into a bay the hardest thing to do.(off topic) Nice to know there is another of me on here - I’m the engineer for a Grass Valley / BTS OB unit.
Do you drive the units as well?
I normally drive the artic full of flight cases, stage, lights etc. but sometimes drive the OB unit. After setup and everything works or is fixed I normally do shading / racks.
Do they have rigid units? I want to get back into the broadcast world.
Radar19:
th2013:
Radar19:
th2013:
Radar19:
I can put together an entire TV broadcast system. I can operate a broadcast camera and other broadcast equipment yet I find backing into a bay the hardest thing to do.(off topic) Nice to know there is another of me on here - I’m the engineer for a Grass Valley / BTS OB unit.
Do you drive the units as well?
I normally drive the artic full of flight cases, stage, lights etc. but sometimes drive the OB unit. After setup and everything works or is fixed I normally do shading / racks.
Do they have rigid units? I want to get back into the broadcast world.
Sending you PM.