Hello all. Newbie here with my Class C theory test in two weeks and looking for help on the acquired rights situation.(Apologies if it’s been asked before).Iv’e spent hours scouring the ‘net’ and it’s confusing. My situation is that I passed group B in Oct 1990,which obviously came with C1 included.The way I understand it is I had/have ‘acquired rights’ which lasted for 5 years from Sep 2009.
My confusion is A) have they ‘run out’ and B) if they haven’t,does it mean I don’t have to complete modules 2 and 4?.My reason for needing help is that I don’t want to do something that I don’t need to and the people i’m with want to charge me £500 for initial CPC which if my acquired rights still stand I don’t need,just periodic.
My full licence groups from 1990 are AM/A/B1/B/C1/D1/BE/C1E/D1E.Provisional from Aug 14 C and D.
Thanks in advance and I look forward to being a regular on Trucknet 
Grandfather rights don’t count now as you will need to complete a CPC course now before you can use your license for work.
Thanks Radar . So it’s as if i’m starting from scratch as a new C1 driver post-1997. I know two ‘old’ C+E drivers who’ve not completed the CPC.Presumably if they decide to carry on they’ll start CPC from scratch too 
If you’ve c1 you can just do 35hrs periodic before you can drive professionally and not have to do the full initial
Thanks DC. It’s confusing. So my pre-1997 C1 negates modules 2 and 4?
Nobby_Clarke:
So it’s as if i’m starting from scratch as a new C1 driver post-1997. I know two ‘old’ C+E drivers who’ve not completed the CPC.Presumably if they decide to carry on they’ll start CPC from scratch too
No it’s not the same as starting from scratch, you don’t need to do the initial Driver CPC (modules 2 and 4), in fact I don’t think you could even if you wanted to but someone may correct me on that if it’s wrong.
You need to do 35 hours of periodic training before you can drive HGVs commercially.
Thanks Tacho. You can’t believe everything you read on the 'net but I read somewhere that due to passing C1 pre-1997 the ‘system’ might not let me do modules 2 and 4 anyway,so I maybe flapping about something that turns out to be a non-event.Plus I don’t want to part with £500 to do ‘initial’ if I don’t have to.Reading the other posts,somehow iv’e got to get 35hrs in between now and tearing up my L-plates.Maybe that’s what the £500 is and they just call it ‘initial’ assuming iv’e never driven anything over 3.5t.
Some trainers run cat C and cat C+E courses that are approved for the Driver CPC periodic training, I don’t know if you’ve already booked cat C training but if you can find a cat C trainer that’s had the cat C training approved it will count towards the 35 hour training you need.
edit: You may be able to kill 2 birds with one stone and save yourself some money in the process 
Nobby_Clarke:
Thanks Tacho. You can’t believe everything you read on the 'net but I read somewhere that due to passing C1 pre-1997 the ‘system’ might not let me do modules 2 and 4 anyway,so I maybe flapping about something that turns out to be a non-event.Plus I don’t want to part with £500 to do ‘initial’ if I don’t have to.Reading the other posts,somehow iv’e got to get 35hrs in between now and tearing up my L-plates.Maybe that’s what the £500 is and they just call it ‘initial’ assuming iv’e never driven anything over 3.5t.
You need ‘periodic’ training not ‘initial’, cost varies but £50 per 7.5 hours is reasonable, and there’s no time limit on it, you just can’t drive commercially until you’ve completed it. It is separate from your licence acquisition.
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Nobby_Clarke:
Thanks Tacho. You can’t believe everything you read on the 'net but I read somewhere that due to passing C1 pre-1997 the ‘system’ might not let me do modules 2 and 4 anyway,so I maybe flapping about something that turns out to be a non-event.Plus I don’t want to part with £500 to do ‘initial’ if I don’t have to.Reading the other posts,somehow iv’e got to get 35hrs in between now and tearing up my L-plates.Maybe that’s what the £500 is and they just call it ‘initial’ assuming iv’e never driven anything over 3.5t.You need ‘periodic’ training not ‘initial’, cost varies but £50 per 7.5 hours is reasonable, and there’s no time limit on it, you just can’t drive commercially until you’ve completed it. It is separate from your licence acquisition.
Indeed, so you can pass your test but you can’t take to the wheel in anger till you’ve sat in a classroom for 35 hours.
Thanks Exit. Fingers crossed for December the 8th and we’ll see what happens.It sounds like everyone has answered my original question,in that my acquired rights still count towards CPC and I just need to do the 35hrs periodic.
Nobby_Clarke:
Thanks Tacho. You can’t believe everything you read on the 'net but I read somewhere that due to passing C1 pre-1997 the ‘system’ might not let me do modules 2 and 4 anyway,so I maybe flapping about something that turns out to be a non-event.Plus I don’t want to part with £500 to do ‘initial’ if I don’t have to.Reading the other posts,somehow iv’e got to get 35hrs in between now and tearing up my L-plates.Maybe that’s what the £500 is and they just call it ‘initial’ assuming iv’e never driven anything over 3.5t.
Don’t pay anyone £500 for your periodic CPC, if you do your being way overcharged.
Don’t know what you’ve been told by whoever wanted to charge the £500 but sounds like there was a miscommunication on what you need.
Simply put as you have C1 from your pre-97 this is classed as LGV now, ignore the fact you may never have driven anything from that category ie upto 7.5t, you’ve still got for all intents and purposes a LGV entitlement.
So that means to get a CPC card you have to do 35hrs periodic from an approved trainer who will upload your completed hours and DVLA will automatically send you your card after you’ve done these 35hrs
As mentioned if you can find a school that has an approved Cat C course you will get some of these hours as part of your driving course, think most you get is 28hrs so you only have to sit one more day on a classroom course to get upto 35hrs. This if you can find a Cat C approved will save you money in the scheme of things.
You don’t need CPC to take your test so bit about having to get hours in before your tearing up L plates not true, however it is true you need CPC before you can drive commercially which is probably what you meant in getting CPC done for when you pass test so your ready to go work.
Best of luck on your new career path
That’s a very comprehensive answer.Thanks DC. I’ve done some 7.5t work years ago so CPC and digital tacho’s is all new to me. CPC-wise my original post came about because i don’t want to have my trousers pulled down. When i saw ‘initial’ on the bill alarm bells rang, but i wasn’t sure if my aquired rights still stood as we’ve passed September 2014. Thanks a lot