I try and be curtious and its better then having to break right at the end off the slip road because they haven’t got on and are heading for my passengers door.
I let them out if safe, ok a lot of the time they keep you out in lane 2 and speed off 
which tends to ■■■■ me sometimes , but the way I see it is it makes you as bad as them if you block them in just for the hell of it, and they don’t need any excuses to hate us as it is, so I suppose it’s showing an example, it also seperates the pro drivers from the steerers 
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robroy:
I let them out if safe, ok a lot of the time they keep you out in lane 2 and speed off
Exactly it’s bloody annoying when they leave you sat out in lane 2 but it doesn’t take a lot to help them on and a bit of curtious driving may change there perception off some off us.
Dont get me wrong, i feel i am curteous towards other road users but do you not appreciate that some people just cant be helped? And if its the professional image you are trying to uphold then dont you think car drivers think its bad when they see a truck in lane 2 matching the speed of a car in lane 1? I personally couldn’t care how long i am out in lane 2, we are allowed to be there and the only people it ■■■■■■ off is the people who cant read traffic and cant do the simple task of overtaking in lane 3, im just saying from a car drivers point of view.
FarnboroughBoy11:
Dont get me wrong, i feel i am curteous towards other road users but do you not appreciate that some people just cant be helped? And if its the professional image you are trying to uphold then dont you think car drivers think its bad when they see a truck in lane 2 matching the speed of a car in lane 1? I personally couldn’t care how long i am out in lane 2, we are allowed to be there and the only people it ■■■■■■ off is the people who cant read traffic and cant do the simple task of overtaking in lane 3, im just saying from a car drivers point of view.
Why does it look bad for a truck to be sat at 56 at the same time as a car when it’s building it’s acceleration up on a busy junction, or have I misunderstood your point 
As you know some do actually sit just below that speed after joining, and do let you in and then overtake, if they don’t, before you know it you are sat out there waiting for a convoy of cars, and sometimes a truck 
, while they undertake you, that is what I meant, not a life or death point admittedly but just enough to spoil your morning 
robroy:
FarnboroughBoy11:
Dont get me wrong, i feel i am curteous towards other road users but do you not appreciate that some people just cant be helped? And if its the professional image you are trying to uphold then dont you think car drivers think its bad when they see a truck in lane 2 matching the speed of a car in lane 1? I personally couldn’t care how long i am out in lane 2, we are allowed to be there and the only people it ■■■■■■ off is the people who cant read traffic and cant do the simple task of overtaking in lane 3, im just saying from a car drivers point of view.Why does it look bad for a truck to be sat at 56 at the same time as a car when it’s building it’s acceleration up on a busy junction, or have I misunderstood your point
It doesn’t to you and me but to the car drivers in lane 2 behind it does because all they see is a truck in lane 2 and not actually asking themselves why the truck is out there 
… I was just answering the point to Karl86 when he was talking about a good image of what the public sees.
In my opinion, cars usually have about a quarter of a mile of slip road to hit at the very least 60mph to get up to speed with motorway traffic and if they can’t or won’t do that then that is up to them. Why should their incompetence then include me in the equation and filter the badness onto the main carriageway?
Just my opinion
Yeh ok, I see what you mean now, but if the sliproad is busy and traffic is moving slow, they probs can’t get up to 60, get to the end of the sliproad either panic and stop (rather than carry on a short distance on hard shoulder for a safe gap, arguably the best course of action) or worse pull out and hope for the best, and if some on here who have implied that they wouldn’t stop 
, the car driver is paying for his ineptitude by getting cut out of his car while sitting under your front bumper 
. That is the reason that I will let them out when I can.
robroy:
Yeh ok, I see what you mean now, but if the sliproad is busy and traffic is moving slow, they probs can’t get up to 60, get to the end of the sliproad either panic and stop (rather than carry on a short distance on hard shoulder for a safe gap, arguably the best course of action) or worse pull out and hope for the best, and if some on here who have implied that they wouldn’t stop
Mmn I feel my ears burning a bit here so I would like to say a bit more on the matter. If there are a large amount of cars joining and lane 2 is clear I’ll move over. Slow traffic I’ll leave a largeish gap. Crawling I’ll leave a gap and let anyone who wants in. I WON’T slow down to let in a dithering driver who has had ample opportunity to join the motorway. I don’t want to be rewarded with them slamming their brakes on because they’re scared or slowing down to a crawl making me do the manoeuvring, whatever, you can tell from the off they’re unpredictable or incompetent. They’re not paying me to drive and decide for them, plenty of routes they can go on if they’re scared of the motorway or even better they can get themselves some lessons.
Came on here tonight hoping to find something interesting and some professional comments.
Should not have bothered.
toby1234abc:
They must see the gap when they go past, it must be human nature to be first or something.
Watch the cars as they approach, they seldom if ever actually look out the window. Near all suffer from tunnel vision, anything past the wipers is lost to them. I’ve had a Transit drive straight into the side of my bright red Truck whislt coming off a slip road onto an empty M60, he hit me just behind the cab ffs.
robroy:
Yeh ok, I see what you mean now, but if the sliproad is busy and traffic is moving slow, they probs can’t get up to 60, get to the end of the sliproad either panic and stop (rather than carry on a short distance on hard shoulder for a safe gap, arguably the best course of action) or worse pull out and hope for the best, and if some on here who have implied that they wouldn’t stop
Yes if there is busy traffic joining from a slip and they are just dawdling then I will move out but every situation is different isn’t it, sometimes you can actually keep on the limiter and they slot in around you with (and rightly so) a bit of adjustment from them and the cars in front are already accelerating away.
And from your last sentence, If I feel they haven’t seen me or simply not bothering to look I’ll just tap the horn to let them know my presence.
albion1971:
Came on here tonight hoping to find something interesting and some professional comments.
Should not have bothered.
Oh dear, any posts in particular not up to the professional standards?
FarnboroughBoy11:
albion1971:
Came on here tonight hoping to find something interesting and some professional comments.
Should not have bothered.Oh dear, any posts in particular not up to the professional standards?
Lol not another one!
If you cant join a motorway safley then gtfo the roads
hgvhgv:
FarnboroughBoy11:
albion1971:
Came on here tonight hoping to find something interesting and some professional comments.
Should not have bothered.Oh dear, any posts in particular not up to the professional standards?
Lol not another one!
If you cant join a motorway safley then gtfo the roads
simples
hgvhgv:
FarnboroughBoy11:
albion1971:
Came on here tonight hoping to find something interesting and some professional comments.
Should not have bothered.Oh dear, any posts in particular not up to the professional standards?
Lol not another one!
If you cant join a motorway safley then gtfo the roads
If you are going to make a childish comment at least learn to spell it first!
Complain complain complain about other drivers.Why is when I am out on the roads I see as much bad driving from truck drivers as I do from any other group.
Be better sorting yourselves out first before coming on here with stupid rants.
Its not me its everyone else?
hgvhgv:
If you cant join a motorway safley then gtfo the roads
+++1…
so what do you do when they are sitting at the end of the sliproad waiting to join 
i couldnt believe this one. i joined the sliproad which is uphill, moved into L2 to overtake a truck and looked up at the carriageway to see a car sitting at around 60, certainly no more than that so i floored it up to 70 to join in front of him. checked again, i am in front of him and he has a car overtaking, no problem. looked forward when the road levelled out and there was someone sat stationary about 100 yards in front of me waiting to join
option 1: stop behind her. even with my brembos, not going to happen!
option 2: cut right over into L2 of the motorway forcing the overtaking car to take action, too dangerous
option 3: join L1 and pass the moron ready to cut back over in case she decides to move, fine if she remains in a trance
option 4: cut round her on the hard shoulder and join L1, possibly illegal but its clear and its unlikely she will move that way
scanny77:
so what do you do when they are sitting at the end of the sliproad waiting to joini couldnt believe this one. i joined the sliproad which is uphill, moved into L2 to overtake a truck and looked up at the carriageway to see a car sitting at around 60, certainly no more than that so i floored it up to 70 to join in front of him. checked again, i am in front of him and he has a car overtaking, no problem. looked forward when the road levelled out and there was someone sat stationary about 100 yards in front of me waiting to join
option 1: stop behind her. even with my brembos, not going to happen!
option 2: cut right over into L2 of the motorway forcing the overtaking car to take action, too dangerous
option 3: join L1 and pass the moron ready to cut back over in case she decides to move, fine if she remains in a trance
option 4: cut round her on the hard shoulder and join L1, possibly illegal but its clear and its unlikely she will move that way
I would have gone for option 3 if her brake lights remained on all the time. However, i wouldn’t hesitate at using option 4 to go inside her on the hard shoulder and then join but its difficult to make a decision behind a keyboard rather than the split seconds you have for your brain to process everything there and then in any situation
So what did you do in the end?
option 3 with a very close eye on her wheels. i was ready to take action but as long as her wheels were not moving i figured my best option was use L1 since she was clearly waiting for the other car to pass her anyway. i dont know what action the truck driver took though. he would have been facing the same thing although he would obviously have seen her before i did due to the height advantage. no doubt he would have been as bewildered as i was to see a stationary car at the end of the slip road as if it was a give way junction. there wasnt anything in front of me when i joined the motorway and she wasnt in front of the truck so i have no idea how long she had been there or why she stopped. then again i dont know why the woman at haydock decided to walk out in front of me at haydock yesterday when i was turning into the RDC 