adam277:
How much are Stobart paying take home if you don’t mind saying?
This is the last one before I went off sick Adam , it’s mon-fri tramping , 64 hrs , 4 nights out , if you do extra shifts ( I won’t ) then obviously it will be higher ( according to my Mrs the letter with my pay slip states there paying £50 bonus on top of shift payment , I assume up until xmas but not seen letter so I’m guessing that ) .
Hope it helps
You keep posting this up but refuse to show the breakdown of how that amount is reached,clearly shows on stobrats pay structure that doing 60hrs a week Mon-Fri tramping will clear you £585.50 so not sure where you get the extra £95pw from by doing an additional 4hrs.
malcolmgbell:
Re: Letter received from Stobart
Postby robroy » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:11 pm
the nodding donkey wrote:
UKtramp wrote:
And the donkey disappears up the dusty road clipety clop
Nearly right. The Donkey is of to the kitchen, to grab a beer. And maybe a nice ham and mustard sandwich. The joy of spending quality time at home. How’s the view in the MSA tonight?
Can’t speak for UKt, but I’m in pub, 20 quid to park including shower, bloody good meal (gammon steak egg home made chips and beans) and a pint of John Smiths.
Keep your MSAs and your [zb] hole lay bys. whats the diffrence between home made chips and shop brought chip ffs
And you re. wrote all that to ask that question??
Well if I have to tell you that mate you must eat either frozen, or crap, (or even crap frozen) chips at home., that’s all I can say…ffs.
adam277:
How much are Stobart paying take home if you don’t mind saying?
Not enough Adam. It is livable but not enough.
More or less then £500? Also are Stobarts paid hourly?
It really depends on what shift you are doing, what days you work, ie does your week include a sat or sun or overtime with additional shifts etc. An average week you will draw £480 in your hand. Unfortunately tramping you will take around £600 but this will include your night out money so it really only looks good on your take home rather than simply your wage. Better off on days although they will be on the long side of 15 and 12 hrs.
■■■■■■■■ , stobarts pay( haters ) structure apparently says it’s impossible to take home£600 , but your right the take home is ok but wage gross is terrible
dozy:
[zb] , stobarts pay( haters ) structure apparently says it’s impossible to take home£600 , but your right the take home is ok but wage gross is terrible
Problem with Stobart’s and a lot of companies now for that matter are the expected hours that you have to work to get a decent wedge. You can certainly earn a good wage but you have to put the shifts in, in order to get it. They are no different to most on that score. It is getting to the point that as drivers we have to burn ourselves out to earn a decent wage. Stobart cannot be singled out for expecting this it is just the way things are. Seems a lot more difficult to find those jobs at 40 hrs a week to get decent money. Nights out, long hours and we just accept this now without question.
Juddian:
The country is teetering on a knife edge, we have an unpayable national debt, we have record personal debts (mostly self inflicted), and the magic money tree is near enough finished, so the treasury is quite rightly looking to close loopholes to keep as much tax revenue as possible.
We are suffocating under the weight of the welfare state.
I wouldn’t want anyone to go hungry, homeless, or without adequate clothing, etc, but the welfare system has been ■■■■■■■■■■■ beyond all recognition. There are now large chunks of society who’s only ambition is to live off the dole, rather than work.
We need to create an incentive to work, in order to become a more productive nation.
Cut cash payment of benefits. Replace with weekly deliveries of supermarket value food parcels, and clothing coupons based on who is in your household (No alcohol or cigs/baccy in there either) just like rationing; they say we were never healthier as a nation, so that should lower the NHS bill. Give DSS rent straight to landlords, but check up on the standard of accommodation and severely penalise ‘slum landlords’. The above would certainly make me think twice about turning down work.
Discontinue non-essential treatments on the NHS.
Cash pension only to those who’ve worked or tried to work all their lives, and their partners who’ve supported them. Otherwise - back to the ‘rationing’.
I’m ferking sick of losing 25% + of my hard-earned income to support lazy twunts, with no genuine need of social support. I miss all my kids’ school productions, whereas the sofa-dwelling, full-sky-package, velour-tracksuit-wearing slobs get to see every one, they get to drop-off and pick-up every day, AND their kids get free school meals - while mine have to have sandwiches, because we can’t afford the meals.
Juddian:
The country is teetering on a knife edge, we have an unpayable national debt, we have record personal debts (mostly self inflicted), and the magic money tree is near enough finished, so the treasury is quite rightly looking to close loopholes to keep as much tax revenue as possible.
We are suffocating under the weight of the welfare state.
I wouldn’t want anyone to go hungry, homeless, or without adequate clothing, etc, but the welfare system has been [zb] beyond all recognition. There are now large chunks of society who’s only ambition is to live off the dole, rather than work.
We need to create an incentive to work, in order to become a more productive nation.
Cut cash payment of benefits. Replace with weekly deliveries of supermarket value food parcels, and clothing coupons based on who is in your household (No alcohol or cigs/baccy in there either) just like rationing; they say we were never healthier as a nation, so that should lower the NHS bill. Give DSS rent straight to landlords, but check up on the standard of accommodation and severely penalise ‘slum landlords’. The above would certainly make me think twice about turning down work.
Discontinue non-essential treatments on the NHS.
Cash pension only to those who’ve worked or tried to work all their lives, and their partners who’ve supported them. Otherwise - back to the ‘rationing’.
I’m ferking sick of losing 25% + of my hard-earned income to support lazy twunts, with no genuine need of social support. I miss all my kids’ school productions, whereas the sofa-dwelling, full-sky-package, velour-tracksuit-wearing slobs get to see every one, they get to drop-off and pick-up every day, AND their kids get free school meals - while mine have to have sandwiches, because we can’t afford the meals.
Shandy123:
We are suffocating under the weight of the welfare state.
I wouldn’t want anyone to go hungry, homeless, or without adequate clothing, etc, but the welfare system has been [zb] beyond all recognition. There are now large chunks of society who’s only ambition is to live off the dole, rather than work.
We need to create an incentive to work, in order to become a more productive nation.
Cut cash payment of benefits. Replace with weekly deliveries of supermarket value food parcels, and clothing coupons based on who is in your household (No alcohol or cigs/baccy in there either) just like rationing; they say we were never healthier as a nation, so that should lower the NHS bill. Give DSS rent straight to landlords, but check up on the standard of accommodation and severely penalise ‘slum landlords’. The above would certainly make me think twice about turning down work.
Discontinue non-essential treatments on the NHS.
Cash pension only to those who’ve worked or tried to work all their lives, and their partners who’ve supported them. Otherwise - back to the ‘rationing’.
I’m ferking sick of losing 25% + of my hard-earned income to support lazy twunts, with no genuine need of social support. I miss all my kids’ school productions, whereas the sofa-dwelling, full-sky-package, velour-tracksuit-wearing slobs get to see every one, they get to drop-off and pick-up every day, AND their kids get free school meals - while mine have to have sandwiches, because we can’t afford the meals.
Shandy123:
We are suffocating under the weight of the welfare state.
I wouldn’t want anyone to go hungry, homeless, or without adequate clothing, etc, but the welfare system has been [zb] beyond all recognition. There are now large chunks of society who’s only ambition is to live off the dole, rather than work.
We need to create an incentive to work, in order to become a more productive nation.
Cut cash payment of benefits. Replace with weekly deliveries of supermarket value food parcels, and clothing coupons based on who is in your household (No alcohol or cigs/baccy in there either) just like rationing; they say we were never healthier as a nation, so that should lower the NHS bill. Give DSS rent straight to landlords, but check up on the standard of accommodation and severely penalise ‘slum landlords’. The above would certainly make me think twice about turning down work.
Discontinue non-essential treatments on the NHS.
Cash pension only to those who’ve worked or tried to work all their lives, and their partners who’ve supported them. Otherwise - back to the ‘rationing’.
I’m ferking sick of losing 25% + of my hard-earned income to support lazy twunts, with no genuine need of social support. I miss all my kids’ school productions, whereas the sofa-dwelling, full-sky-package, velour-tracksuit-wearing slobs get to see every one, they get to drop-off and pick-up every day, AND their kids get free school meals - while mine have to have sandwiches, because we can’t afford the meals.
Dam good post M8.
It is easy to kick those that are at te bottom, and it is good for the circulation of the Daily Wail, if not for its readers blood pressure. But, the welfare state scroungers are just a small piece of the big cake. The real problem, and it’s one for which no real solution is available, is the pensioners. There’s more if them each year. And they live longer. It is the pensions bill that is crippling the welfare state.
the nodding donkey:
It is easy to kick those that are at te bottom, and it is good for the circulation of the Daily Wail, if not for its readers blood pressure. But, the welfare state scroungers are just a small piece of the big cake. The real problem, and it’s one for which no real solution is available, is the pensioners. There’s more if them each year. And they live longer. It is the pensions bill that is crippling the welfare state.
Of course there’s a real solution. Raise the pension age until we only have 5 years between retirement and death, like it was in the forties.
Shandy123:
We are suffocating under the weight of the welfare state.
I wouldn’t want anyone to go hungry, homeless, or without adequate clothing, etc, but the welfare system has been [zb] beyond all recognition. There are now large chunks of society who’s only ambition is to live off the dole, rather than work.
We need to create an incentive to work, in order to become a more productive nation.
Cut cash payment of benefits. Replace with weekly deliveries of supermarket value food parcels, and clothing coupons based on who is in your household (No alcohol or cigs/baccy in there either) just like rationing; they say we were never healthier as a nation, so that should lower the NHS bill. Give DSS rent straight to landlords, but check up on the standard of accommodation and severely penalise ‘slum landlords’. The above would certainly make me think twice about turning down work.
Discontinue non-essential treatments on the NHS.
Cash pension only to those who’ve worked or tried to work all their lives, and their partners who’ve supported them. Otherwise - back to the ‘rationing’.
I’m ferking sick of losing 25% + of my hard-earned income to support lazy twunts, with no genuine need of social support. I miss all my kids’ school productions, whereas the sofa-dwelling, full-sky-package, velour-tracksuit-wearing slobs get to see every one, they get to drop-off and pick-up every day, AND their kids get free school meals - while mine have to have sandwiches, because we can’t afford the meals.
Dam good post M8.
It is easy to kick those that are at te bottom, and it is good for the circulation of the Daily Wail, if not for its readers blood pressure. But, the welfare state scroungers are just a small piece of the big cake. The real problem, and it’s one for which no real solution is available, is the pensioners. There’s more if them each year. And they live longer. It is the pensions bill that is crippling the welfare state.
I know you’re on a wind up… but I’ ll bite anyway.
You do however make a valid point…but.
The difference between the pensioners and the workshy scrounging underclasss is this…
The majority of the pensioners drawing money from the system, have diligently contributed to it themselves for most of their working lives.
The scroungers have contributed (on the whole) the square root of ■■■■ all.
I know which of the two categories that I have no problem with.
All those lifelong scroungers will one day be drawing pensions, if not already. Furthermore, they won’t have any wealth to be further taxed, penalised, and plundered like the dilegent, hard working ones will have.
tommy t:
It should start with those big corps who evade taxes and the ones like Branson not those at the bottom
But they’re not evading tax, they’re avoiding it which is legal. And I reckon if you added up the number of them doing it it comes to a lot less than the number of self employed lorry drivers who are doing it. But that’s different though isn’t it? Well yes it is. What the companies are doing is legal, what most of the lorry drivers are doing is actual tax evasion because their status is that of being employed which is why a load of drivers using Think Accounting got some eye watering tax bills.
Shandy123:
We are suffocating under the weight of the welfare state.
I wouldn’t want anyone to go hungry, homeless, or without adequate clothing, etc, but the welfare system has been [zb] beyond all recognition. There are now large chunks of society who’s only ambition is to live off the dole, rather than work.
We need to create an incentive to work, in order to become a more productive nation.
Cut cash payment of benefits. Replace with weekly deliveries of supermarket value food parcels, and clothing coupons based on who is in your household (No alcohol or cigs/baccy in there either) just like rationing; they say we were never healthier as a nation, so that should lower the NHS bill. Give DSS rent straight to landlords, but check up on the standard of accommodation and severely penalise ‘slum landlords’. The above would certainly make me think twice about turning down work.
Discontinue non-essential treatments on the NHS.
Cash pension only to those who’ve worked or tried to work all their lives, and their partners who’ve supported them. Otherwise - back to the ‘rationing’.
I’m ferking sick of losing 25% + of my hard-earned income to support lazy twunts, with no genuine need of social support. I miss all my kids’ school productions, whereas the sofa-dwelling, full-sky-package, velour-tracksuit-wearing slobs get to see every one, they get to drop-off and pick-up every day, AND their kids get free school meals - while mine have to have sandwiches, because we can’t afford the meals.
Dam good post M8.
It is easy to kick those that are at te bottom, and it is good for the circulation of the Daily Wail, if not for its readers blood pressure. But, the welfare state scroungers are just a small piece of the big cake. The real problem, and it’s one for which no real solution is available, is the pensioners. There’s more if them each year. And they live longer. It is the pensions bill that is crippling the welfare state.
I know you’re on a wind up… but I’ ll bite anyway.
You do however make a valid point…but.
The difference between the pensioners and the workshy scrounging underclasss is this…
The majority of the pensioners drawing money from the system, have diligently contributed to it themselves for most of their working lives.
The scroungers have contributed (on the whole) the square root of [zb] all.
I know which of the two categories that I have no problem with.
Not on a windup this time Rob. The pensions time bomb is real. That is why the pension age is going up. And it will have to go up a lot more. The other alternative is not acceptable in our society. Well, not yet anyway.
Yes, most of those pensioners have paid in all their working lives. But when the welfare state was created, it was made clear, that the present working generation, is paying for the retired generation. Especially if the retired generation is living so much longer past retirement age. What you pay in during your life, pays for the NHS too. And all other services that the state supply (and subsidise in the case of local authorities ). What you ‘save’ for your ‘pension’ would hardly sustain you.
UKtramp:
Received this in the post today, obviously covered up my name and address!!! Basically we now have to keep receipts for the meal allowance that is paid to us tax free, although we do not have to hand them in, we need to keep them for 12 months just in case HMRC decide to check them. My question is, how can they now say that this meal allowance is part of the wage structure? I do not spend £15 per day on meals!!!
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Stobart are just giving you some practical advice, if you keep all your receipts HMRC can have no come back when or if they decide to audit you. I keep everything relating to income tax for my own protection. One year I never and got an audit and was taken for quite a lot because I had no proof of expenses.
, maybe the crayons are what he’s eating. 
