att:
Anyone who has been to India will see what their business model is…It is the largest chasm between the rich and poor of any country, with little ‘sharing’ of wealth. Nepotism rules, slave labour is the norm.
The caste system is repugnant, the way in which they treat their women could be better…One good thing though, at least they aren`t MuslimsIf they do come, they will do as they always do, exploit, ■■■■ financially and leave.
They’ve been here for decades!
tallyman:
Saaamon:
…pensioners dying because they havnt got enough money isnt eactly a nationwide problem and they’ve could of saved for a private pension, if you become ill and need money for care why should the tax payer fork out of it while you keep your house and saving?Don’t make me laugh, these days a private pension is an absolute waste of time. I was paying into one for over 25 years, and after Gordon Brown did a raid on it and reduced its value by a third, then the annuity companies screw everything out of you and give you a pittance it isn’t worth doing. I have a pension fund of close to £100k and at current annuity rates the current system will let me have less than £5,000 a year if I’m lucky. I stopped paying into it 5 years ago and have since put my money into ISA’s and shares and they are doing better than the pension, even after taking into account tax relief. We now have plans to downsize, move abroad so I can take the whole pot with us and invest it as we want to, it’s the only way we shall have a decent retirement.
It’s the financiers and the financial system in this country that have screwed us for years and will continue to screw us til we die
But don’t forget everyone is living much longer and according to the bankers everyone needs to be paying in a lot more than £100,000 for a lot longer than 25 years and they need to pay such low annuity rates because everyone is guaranteed to live at least until they’re 95.Although by then they would probably have been in a care home for 10 years which took the whole value of their house to pay for it. 
shytalk:
Because you have allready payed your taxes all your life…and national insurance…go again.
My point in everyone of these threads is that people need to start taking responsibility for themselfs instead of expecting the tax player to bail them out. The welfare system in this country is unsustainable, more is being taken out than is being put in and the whole idea was that you didnt get more than you contributed.
OVLOV JAY:
There’s a few people missing the point here. This is not going to be the same joke as the eu. And it only provides more proof to euro sceptics like myself, that we don’t need the eu to trade and survive. We need trade agreements with India, China, Brazil and the US. Then pull out of the eu so all the flip flop brigade will need work permits. Tear up benefits so the ponces will be picking sprouts and there will be no need for migrant labour. Call me Dave is on the right track imho although I will still be voting ukip
I think you’ve mised the fact that there’s no way that British big business is going to do anything for the benefit of the British workers and Farage is no different in that regard.We’ve already seen the results of being in Europe and the global free market economy and it’s all one big joke from the point of view of the average British worker and the latter is no different to the former in that one is run by the Germans for the Germans and the other is run by the Chinese Communist Party and Russians like Putin etc for the benefit of the Chinese Communist Party and the Russians like Putin etc.While British big business is happy just so long as it gets a kick back from the whole thing which includes a continuing supply of cheap immigrant labour.UKIP are no different to the rest of the zb’s.
Saaamon:
shytalk:
Because you have allready payed your taxes all your life…and national insurance…go again.My point in everyone of these threads is that people need to start taking responsibility for themselfs instead of expecting the tax player to bail them out. The welfare system in this country is unsustainable, more is being taken out than is being put in and the whole idea was that you didnt get more than you contributed.
So are you saying,as I am,knock the whole bs social security and NHS thing on the head and have something like the Americans have,or not 
.In which case everyone’s contributions will need to be returned having torn up the contract which the money was taken under and the minimum wage will need to go up and cheap labour immigration will have to stop to pay for it.Or you’re going to have a lot of hungry,broke, homeless people without any access to decent health cover just like in the states now. 
DrivingMissDaisy:
GasGas:
shytalk:
:lol:I didn’t read it in the papers…It’s from an reputable source.
smmt.co.uk/2013/01/uk-car-m … s-in-2012/
You are right though, there were 150 car makers building stuff of such lamentable design and quality very little of it could be exported even if they weren’t on strike.
There are now 5, building vehicles that are in demand all over the world…thanks largely to foreign investment, and creating very high-value jobs in R&D. Ford, JLR, Nissan all have technical development centred in the UK for Europe and beyond, plus there’s all the motorsport stuff which UK plc does better than any other nation on earth.
Funny how they have been successful here with the same workers but different top level management?
Absolutely. The Japanese (Nissan) taught the British how to make cars efficiently. They demanded quality and a reliable supply chain from local suppliers, whereas all the ‘British’ companies had demanded was the cheapest possible widgets delivered occasional in large quantities then left in the rain outside until they were needed.
And if a British company did make any money it was either taken by the directors (see Lord & Lady Docker at BSA) or absorbed by the next industrial dispute.
And what research and development there was was wasted. When Triumph (part of BMC/BL) was developing the Stag, the designers were told to make the engine bay of a certain dimension, because that wouldn’t take the reliable Rover V8 engine. Triumph wanted to use their own unreliable engine in the Stag.
Ironically, British engineers and designers are now much sought after by ‘foreign’ motor manufacturers, and the UK’s university automotive design and engineering courses are the best in the world.
We have a lot to be pleased and proud about in this country, but sometimes you’d have a job to realise it.
shytalk:
Because you have allready payed your taxes all your life…and national insurance…go again.
+1
Saaamon:
shytalk:
Because you have allready payed your taxes all your life…and national insurance…go again.My point in everyone of these threads is that people need to start taking responsibility for themselfs instead of expecting the tax player to bail them out. The welfare system in this country is unsustainable, more is being taken out than is being put in and the whole idea was that you didnt get more than you contributed.
Like the latest bunch of benefit refugees from here there and everywhere?
GasGas:
DrivingMissDaisy:
GasGas:
shytalk:
:lol:I didn’t read it in the papers…It’s from an reputable source.
smmt.co.uk/2013/01/uk-car-m … s-in-2012/
You are right though, there were 150 car makers building stuff of such lamentable design and quality very little of it could be exported even if they weren’t on strike.
There are now 5, building vehicles that are in demand all over the world…thanks largely to foreign investment, and creating very high-value jobs in R&D. Ford, JLR, Nissan all have technical development centred in the UK for Europe and beyond, plus there’s all the motorsport stuff which UK plc does better than any other nation on earth.
Funny how they have been successful here with the same workers but different top level management?
Absolutely. The Japanese (Nissan) taught the British how to make cars efficiently. They demanded quality and a reliable supply chain from local suppliers, whereas all the ‘British’ companies had demanded was the cheapest possible widgets delivered occasional in large quantities then left in the rain outside until they were needed.
And if a British company did make any money it was either taken by the directors (see Lord & Lady Docker at BSA) or absorbed by the next industrial dispute.
And what research and development there was was wasted. When Triumph (part of BMC/BL) was developing the Stag, the designers were told to make the engine bay of a certain dimension, because that wouldn’t take the reliable Rover V8 engine. Triumph wanted to use their own unreliable engine in the Stag.
Ironically, British engineers and designers are now much sought after by ‘foreign’ motor manufacturers,
You mean like the series 3 V12 E Type v the zb 240 Z which even with that the Japs needed help from the yanks to design just like most of their motor sports successes.Efficiently in the case of Jap crap mean’t/means cheaply.
As for the Rover V8 in the Stag ( or the 2.5 PI ) I think there’s been more than enough examples of owners having converted them over the years to show that it wasn’t rocket science to make it fit.However if Triumph had decided to fit it you can bet that they’d have got load of stick from all those who thought/think ( wrongly ) that pushrod engines belong in the stone age.The real problem being lack of funds to develop something better to make going for the overhead cam option worthwhile by making it a 4 Litre 32 valve V8 based on the Dolomite Sprint and knowing that the customers couldn’t have afforded to buy it,or run it,in our zb’d up economy,after joining the EU,even if they had have done.
British engineers have always been better than any other country’s which is why you’re not speaking German now.
DrivingMissDaisy:
Saaamon:
shytalk:
Because you have allready payed your taxes all your life…and national insurance…go again.My point in everyone of these threads is that people need to start taking responsibility for themselfs instead of expecting the tax player to bail them out. The welfare system in this country is unsustainable, more is being taken out than is being put in and the whole idea was that you didnt get more than you contributed.
Like the latest bunch of benefit refugees from here there and everywhere?
Like the idea of the NHS considering how much medical treatment actually costs v incomes which isn’t helped by medical tourists/immigrants coming here to take advantage of an already under funded system.Thereby making it even more difficult to fund it.
Well I for one have had enough of it , im going to quit work then get the misses pregnant 11 times & leave her so she can get a £400k house built , oh and I’m going to get a horse, seems the way forward with this government …
Saaamon:
shytalk:
Because you have allready payed your taxes all your life…and national insurance…go again.My point in everyone of these threads is that people need to start taking responsibility for themselfs instead of expecting the tax player to bail them out. The welfare system in this country is unsustainable, more is being taken out than is being put in and the whole idea was that you didnt get more than you contributed.
What a load of ■■■■■■■■. I have paid into private pensions since I was 25 and I am now retired. The pensions did not perform well pluss the bloody govornment take 20% of my earnings from these pensions. I have worked since I was 15 years old and I am now nearly 66 and still working because to rely on the state pension and my other earnings mean I would have to downgrade my lifestyle just when I should be able to enjoy retirement. Most people I know from my era have looked after themselvs as you put it but it has not benifited them at all, this country is overloaded with foreign scroungers who contribute nothing to the system and you want to welcome more “my arse”
shytalk:
:lol:
21 February, 13
Data from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) has highlighted a positive increase in the level of car production in the UK last month.
January witnessed a 1.2 per cent annual rise in activity across the automotive sector, with 129,049 vehicles delivered during the month.
Furthermore, strong domestic demand among buyers saw the number of vehicles produced for the UK market increase to 26.1 per cent of all output, while analysts now predict the UK’s demand for new cars could rise by up to a third by the end of 2016.
SMMT interim chief executive Mike Baunton commented: “Despite ongoing economic challenges, growing demand for UK-built products in emerging global markets coupled with major new investment is paving the way for a positive year for automotive manufacturing.”
Earlier this month, figures from the SMMT also revealed significant signs of improvement in the UK’s new car market during January.
The data showed an 11.5 per cent annual upturn in registrations to 143,643 units.
