hi folks,if you park your truck say a couple of miles away from your house and go home for the night is it a problem with insurance or g.i.t with truck and load being left unattended?anyone have any thoughts?in our case the load is 8t lumps so couldnt really be stolen.thanks 
I would not take a chance on leaving anything on a lorry,someone will allways find a use for whatever a lorry carries,and if they can take it they will,result being no insurance payout
Canāt see why thereād be an insurance problem mate. Iām sure that your car is still insured when you leave it unattended overnight. Your gaffer however may not like it, but my attitude is that if he wants to pay me through the night for providing security then Iām happy to stay with it, if not, it can look after itself.
Will not affect insuranceā¦you are not a Nightwatchman as well as a driver.
And if the gaffer moans then demand payment to guard his load at night!
Dodgy nights out still with us ehā¦ 
Well iāve done my share of getting as far as possible up to time running out and either making my own way home or the missus picking me up more times than you could shake a stick at in times gone by, never had anything lifted yet.
Try to leave it in a proper place if poss, preferably paid parking (this is company requirement with many operators now), but the lorryās been left in all sorts of places, usually where other people pass by regularly such as industrial estate, if a rural layby then a so called gay cruise site is good cos the cruisers are passing by at all hours and any fuel/load thieves wonāt know if the next car driving slowly past is a chap looking for a friend or an armed response unit keeping a beady eye open.
Use common sense, try to put your fuel tank right beside fast passing traffic if roadside or if the other side jam it into a thorn thicket, with a bit of luck the fuel thief will get cleaned up by a passing lorry or catch some deadly disease from a deep scratch, pull your curtains, maybe leave the night heater on low setting so it comes on every now and againā¦if itās loaded with easily flogged goodies then itās probably best not to abandon it in the middle of nowhere.
As above though, a driver aint the bleeding night watchman, said driver of normal loads unless heās a modern hermit type will bugger off down the pub for a bite to eat and a pint so the lorry will be unattended for several hours anyway and if he gets lucky he might be invited for a night cap at some birdās gaff and be gone all night.
Ha ha. Insurance because itās unattended! Nope. If loads require protection (pharma etc) as part of conditions of carriage, then those firms will normally stipulate āsecureā parking for the vehicle. If they required you to man the thing 24/7 then you cannot freely dispose of your time, would never technically be on rest, plus they better pay me to be in readiness in my trucknet Y fronts to fend off assailants. Balls to the buggers, Iām off down the pub
Good job the Stockyard is only a mile from my house 
As others have said, rest is stipulated as ābeing free to dispose of your time as you chooseā - not to be confused with break.
Night out money isnāt hourly pay for security.
If you stopped somewhere and went for a stroll to the pub for you tea, shower etc, and it got robbed, is that different?
Also as others have said, use your head, if youāre full of the latest games consoles then itās probably best to park somewhere āsecureā, although ā ā ā ā can still happen in those places, youāve done everything you possibly could.
Some firms insist on parking in a choice of selected places, some stipulate secure parking with a āblacklistā of places and some donāt give a ā ā ā ā , if they donāt, why should you? Iām not saying leave it in Salford centre with a sign on it, but it wouldnāt worry me parking it near a local business and going hope for some cuddles.
As long as you take reasonable steps to leave the vehicle in a reasonable safe area nothing can be said,as a Driver is not obliged to stay with his vehicle when on free time.
I agree with everyone else on this, companies may frown upon a driver leaving the truck but they cannot force you to stay with it (specialist , high value loads may require driver to stay with the vehicle but not sure).
My home yard is 20 minutes from where I live and the company will pay night out money if your having less than 11 off giving me the option to go home or stay with my beloved.
Usually a call to the wife will give me the insight in whether a home visit is welcomed and if theres a good chance coitus is on the cards if not I stay with the truck and look after meself.
Pet hate of mine is going home thinking im on a promise only to get there and realise I was mistaken.
Int good ole days !!! a fiddle home was the norm if your were 1/2 from home when you could park on Birch or other services without the fear ov getting a ticket there was always somebody going south or lancs to get back the traffic manager didnāt like it they knew it went on but unless they were to get up and creep round the yard early hours they were more bothered about you ārobbing the companyā the night out money was for you if you wanted to spend it in an hotel they couldnāt stop you it used to be a ballache in winter though getting back was a ā ā ā ā ball.
If I left the cab for the night, I left a battery radio on, a small cab light on and an old pair
of shoes on the steps to give the impression that somebody was in.
A certain tipper firm I worked at would regularly tell one or two of the night out drivers to stay in the quarry and ābe security.ā Some of these drivers left their cars in said quarry all week and I could never understand why they never just pulled the curtains around the cab and went home, come in early before any quarry staff were about and carry on as normal.
My goods in transit policy specifically states the between 22:00 and 06:00 the policy is invalid unless either the driver is in attendance or the truck is parked in a secure parking area. It goes onto say that breaks of upto 45 minutes are accepted, as long as they are taken at the same premises as the vehicle.
Well son leaving it unattended is a new yin on me Why did ye no say if am on a FIDDLE us aulder yins would have kent what ye were talkin aboot. Eddie.
erfguy:
Well son leaving it unattended is a new yin on me Why did ye no say if am on a FIDDLE us aulder yins would have kent what ye were talkin aboot. Eddie.
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whelmic:
My goods in transit policy specifically states the between 22:00 and 06:00 the policy is invalid unless either the driver is in attendance or the truck is parked in a secure parking area. It goes onto say that breaks of upto 45 minutes are accepted, as long as they are taken at the same premises as the vehicle.
Exactly. The word being OR. You simply cannot legally be on rest at all if youāre required to not leave the vehicle at all, so āsecureā parking in lieu. 45 min breaks different as no requirement to freely dispose of time.
That has actually raised a very good point.
Some (if not most) GiT policies state the vehicle must not be left unattended. You are not āFree to dispose of your own timeā.
Ā£20 for up to 11 hours of being a security guard and being restricted to the immediate vicinity of the vehicle you are guarding. ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā to that.
the maoster:
Canāt see why thereād be an insurance problem mate. Iām sure that your car is still insured when you leave it unattended overnight. Your gaffer however may not like it, but my attitude is that if he wants to pay me through the night for providing security then Iām happy to stay with it, if not, it can look after itself.
my car is not insured if i leave it away from home,but within a mile of my house(overnight)!
peirre:
Good job the Stockyard is only a mile from my house
I have had my curtains cut parked up in the Stockyardā¦ 