sorry i should of made it clear that i drove the company car back to base then drove my own car home
DT@Leightonhaul:
sorry i should of made it clear that i drove the company car back to base then drove my own car home
Then you are still on duty when driving the company car as it is other work so your shift would not be finished
You could do that if you had run out of driving hours but still had other work hours available before your 15 hour shift had ended
Its a tricky one as say your 15 was up and you were in a day cab that would leave you up ■■■■ street.
Sure there was a post on here a few months back and the guy was driving home from base and the copper pulled him in and he told the polis he was on his way home after a 15 hour shift and the plod tried to do him, obviously the copper made a ■■■ of himself.
If they send two drivers out one for the car and one for your truck then you jumped in the bunk that might be o/k but as above what if its a day cab.
Limeyphil is correct I now have a headache. 
The time you spend driving back to base is WORK even if you don’t get paid, so what you describe is not legal
aranger:
Its a tricky one as say your 15 was up and you were in a day cab that would leave you up [zb] street.Sure there was a post on here a few months back and the guy was driving home from base and the copper pulled him in and he told the polis he was on his way home after a 15 hour shift and the plod tried to do him, obviously the copper made a ■■■ of himself.
If they send two drivers out one for the car and one for your truck then you jumped in the bunk that might be o/k but as above what if its a day cab.
Limeyphil is correct I now have a headache.
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Ahah!!! I see now!!! If after 15 hours i drove a car back to base then thats still work & a big no no,however if i run out of driving hours then i can still drive a car back to base so theres no reason 4 the company to say stay with the truck,especially if u went to work in the morning without any night out gear.As an aside we only do multi drop although all our trucks have sleeper cabs
DT@Leightonhaul:
Ahah!!! I see now!!! If after 15 hours i drove a car back to base then thats still work & a big no no,however if i run out of driving hours then i can still drive a car back to base so theres no reason 4 the company to say stay with the truck,especially if u went to work in the morning without any night out gear.As an aside we only do multi drop although all our trucks have sleeper cabs
Where would you get the car from 
ROG from the other driver who came up from our base & then drove the company truck home!!!
Company send out a car and he uses that vehicle to go home to Luton while the driver who brought out the car drives the truck to Hatfield.
What about this Scenario.
We know that the driver is out of time [ 15 hrs used up ].The company send out a car with 2 driver’s in it,1 driver will then return the truck to depot [Hatfield] the other driver will then take the original driver by car and drop him at his house in Luton.The car then returns to depot at Hatfield.The original driver has either his daily rest or weekly rest and then returns to work at Hatfield after his rest period is over.legal or illegal
JUST TO CLARIFY-You are NOT allowed to drive any company vehicle car/van etc after your 15 hrs are used up.
i dont get thoguh why ud wanna leave the truck if u cnt make it back after 15 hours, ur gonna be knackered anyway and if you have a bed then just hop in and take 9 hours.
ok if you live 5 mins away fromt he truck then i dont blame you for going home.
ROG:
DT@Leightonhaul:
Ahah!!! I see now!!! If after 15 hours i drove a car back to base then thats still work & a big no no,however if i run out of driving hours then i can still drive a car back to base so theres no reason 4 the company to say stay with the truck,especially if u went to work in the morning without any night out gear.As an aside we only do multi drop although all our trucks have sleeper cabsWhere would you get the car from
maybe he drives a car transporter
stevie
DT@Leightonhaul:
Right then fellow members,can anyone awnser this question?I have been told by a workmate that if i am unable to return to base within a 15 hour shift, for whatever reason (although the weather at the moment is the most likely cause) that we are not allowed to park the vehicle & make our way home & apparently this is a vosa law■■? Although i am new to the profession its not something i’ve heard off & it sounds like the company hiding behind a so called law so u dont leave their vehicle in the middle of nowhere - Can anyone give me a deffinative awnser please■■?
you can not drive to base or be taken to base you most go home and also if you worked from 6.00am till 9.00pm you must be at base by 9.00 pm if you are not the you may make your own way home or a driver would bring you a car to take home not go to base, if you go to base and you got there at 10.00pm you worked 16 hours that day and therefore you broke the regs
please note you can only do EDIT 3 15 hour days between two rest periods
especially if u went to work in the morning without any night out gear
Which in the present weather conditions would be rather silly.
delboytwo:
please note you can only do 2 15 hour days between two rest periods
Make that three.
DT@Leightonhaul:
ROG from the other driver who came up from our base & then drove the company truck home!!!
Then driving that car is ‘other work’ as it was supplied from your base
The simple thing to remember always is this. If you cant FREELY dispose of your time, then its not a rest of any sort. If you drive directly to home then go back to the original location of the vehicle then that is rest. If you have to drive to your base to collect your own car then go home thats not rest…being a passenger in the company car is not rest.
Page 19 of Rules on Drivers Hours and Tachographs says
In cases where a vehicle that comes within the scope of EU Rules is at a seperate location that is NEITHER the drivers HOME nor the employers OPERATIOINAL CENTRE where the driver is normally based, the time the driver spends travelling to or from that location may NOT be counted as a rest or break, unless the driver is in a ferry or train and has access to a bunk or couchette.
In your case the weather may be involved but operators have a responsibility to ensure that work is properly scheduled so that rules are not broken.
MacDoog:
The simple thing to remember always is this. If you cant FREELY dispose of your time, then its not a rest of any sort. If you drive directly to home then go back to the original location of the vehicle then that is rest. If you have to drive to your base to collect your own car then go home thats not rest…being a passenger in the company car is not rest.
So if another driver in a car was to meet you away from base at ‘A’ then you can drive that car home but must drive it back to ‘A’ to resume your next shift in the SAME truck.
In the meantime, the driver that came in the car can do what they like with that truck but the company must make sure it is back at ‘A’ by the time you start the next shift.
I think I got that correct.
Mike-C:
delboytwo:
please note you can only do 2 15 hour days between two rest periodsMake that three.
make that 5…
if you have had a three hour break in day?
i think thats right?? seen coffee or rog mention it some where
andy187:
Mike-C:
delboytwo:
please note you can only do 2 15 hour days between two rest periodsMake that three.
make that 5…
if you have had a three hour break in day?
i think thats right?? seen coffee or rog mention it some where
Correct but by taking a split daily rest the total would be a 12 hour daily rest. The first period of at least 3 hours and the second period at 9 hours. ( I think it used to be 3 and 8 )
Rog I should qualify my statement after frantically looking at my various books!!!
If the driver has run out of DUTY time then he will not be allowed to even drive a company car anywhere as hes run out of DUTY time and by driving that company vehicle it would be classed as other work. However if another driver bought the original drivers car for him to use to travel freely in then thats ok!!!
The original driver would be able to pick up the truck from the operators premises as long as he has had his daily rest at the time he arrives at the yard.
If the vehicle were to be left at the original stop location then travelling to that location would be classed as otherwork and would be included in the total duty time.
Confused…com…Its all a learning curve!!!
Personally If I was in a day cab Id make sure my duty time ran out early…near a nice BnB or motel
I’d freely dispose of my time by choosing to hitchhike back to where my own car was parked at base, freely disposing of it by NOT going into base but only to the car park and I’d make bloody sure my mate gave me a lift back to said base.