Do you think learner drivers should have some motorway driving ?
I ask because teaching my lad to drive, so he had a go down the A3 south bound . which is more or less the same as you get on a motorway…
More directed at the trainers on here , any thoughts ?
I think it’s a good idea - But spare a thought for those who live in parts of Wales, Scotland, Cornwall etc where the nearest Motorway might be a few hours away.
I do the’re not getting robbed living in the most expensive place in the uk …(The south east)
Id rather be in Scotland …
I know I’m not a trainer but I personally don’t think so. It’s very similar and a lot of the learners I come across on even dual carriageways are only hitting 45/50 and on occasion riding the solid lines, I think a motorway should be spared of this. Good training schools wouldn’t take a learner on a DC or motorway until they are ready and it’s only natural to be cautious but lots of parents are teaching their children to drive as you are and I think we can all agree that not all of them are exactly clued up, this means they could very easily take them onto a motorway when they’re not ready and they’d just sit at 40mph which is never a good idea. How does a parent try to get their child to drive 20mph faster to be safer when they are already on the boundary of their comfort zone.
grumbo:
Do you think learner drivers should have some motorway driving ?
I ask because teaching my lad to drive, so he had a go down the A3 south bound . which is more or less the same as you get on a motorway…More directed at the trainers on here , any thoughts ?
Yes, any experiences you can give him in busy/high speed situations whilst giving advice based on your experiences as a driver will only benefit him.
To the chap that said no, when I took my boy down the A3 ,I told him 60 to 65 near side lane is a speed that wont annoy a truck driver and most others will overtake…
I do agree with you 40 or 45 would be stupid.
I do the southern part of the m25 and alot of the time 40 is a result…haha…
Maybe registered instructors could have permission for motorway instruction ?
Most good instructors offer something similar to Pass plus this will include motorway driving and night time driving,but like whats already been said if a motorway is a few hours away this is difficult to offer.
If a motorway is handy and the learner is virtually test ready then yes they should be taken onto a motorway by the ADI teaching them
They are allowed on roads like 3 laned duals where they can encounter more hazards than a motorway already so its illogical not to let them do so
At the moment many newly passed drivers have some fear of motorways because they are made out to be some sort of a specialist thing
One example - It seems daft that they can use the 2 lane A42 but not the 2 lane M42 and yet there is very little difference
As an add on to this …
pass car just before 18th birthday then take LGV training on motorways at age 18 - they have only just passed car so why is it now ok to let them loose on a motorway with something as big as a 32 tonner? = no sense
No way they are bad enough on main roads when they have no experience i think it should be compulsory once they are experienced
The wife’s a driving instructor and she just said absolutely it’s ridiculous that they don’t do at least do some driving on motorway.
Not sure about the motorway driving, but they should all get a ride in an artic during their training, so they can get the perspective we get & understand the road positions we take & why !
ROG:
As an add on to this …
pass car just before 18th birthday then take LGV training on motorways at age 18 - they have only just passed car so why is it now ok to let them loose on a motorway with something as big as a 32 tonner? = no sense
Crazee! You get a licence to drive on a road that is probably the only one you haven’t been taught on.
The trouble is a lot of test centres are nowhere near a motorway so then what do you do ?
bald bloke:
The trouble is a lot of test centres are nowhere near a motorway so then what do you do ?
Some test centres are nowhere near 60 mph rural country roads either
Not many tests are done in the dark
ROG:
bald bloke:
The trouble is a lot of test centres are nowhere near a motorway so then what do you do ?Some test centres are nowhere near 60 mph rural country roads either
Not many tests are done in the dark
Maybe pass plus should be compulsory.
bald bloke:
ROG:
bald bloke:
The trouble is a lot of test centres are nowhere near a motorway so then what do you do ?Some test centres are nowhere near 60 mph rural country roads either
Not many tests are done in the dark
Maybe pass plus should be compulsory.
Now you’re getting to the main issue - nothing compulsory post basic test !
ROG:
bald bloke:
ROG:
bald bloke:
The trouble is a lot of test centres are nowhere near a motorway so then what do you do ?Some test centres are nowhere near 60 mph rural country roads either
Not many tests are done in the dark
Maybe pass plus should be compulsory.
Now you’re getting to the main issue - nothing compulsory post basic test !
I think driver training should build up the skill levels, starting with driving off the public roads at centres, that can teach vehicle control, show how distractions can affect concentration, the affects of speed on stopping distance, etc.
then onto the road and when they have reached an acceptable standard onto a motorway or if not available a decent dual carriageway.
Of course this doesn’t solve the one biggest problem of the fact that, many young drivers think they’re immortal, (as probably most of us did at that age and by the fact they’ve passed their test they are perfect drivers)
but I believe they’ve been doing something like that in Austria and have dramatically reduced death and injury of young drivers.
I have though for a long time that drivers should have to pass a second test to enable them to use the motorway network. Sadly the practicalities of enforcing this mean it will never happen.
m1cks:
I have though for a long time that drivers should have to pass a second test to enable them to use the motorway network. Sadly the practicalities of enforcing this mean it will never happen.
Many other countries have a 2 or 3 tier licencing system so its easily policed
Red L plates when learning basic
Amber Ls when at second stage
Green Ls at third stage
ROG:
m1cks:
I have though for a long time that drivers should have to pass a second test to enable them to use the motorway network. Sadly the practicalities of enforcing this mean it will never happen.Many other countries have a 2 or 3 tier licencing system so its easily policed
Red L plates when learning basic
Amber Ls when at second stage
Green Ls at third stage
Which only works if those licenced are prepared to comply. As we all know the detection of unlicensed and uninsured drivers leaves a lot to be desired in this country, as does the penaltys imposed on those that are caught.