Nice truck, def large! Quick tangent - on the pic those Iveco mirrors seem to stick out much further than the ones we’ve got, did you change them for learning vehicles? Take someone head off if get too close to kerb
Kerbside mirrors are standard. There is an extra one, up high, on the driver’s side for instructor/examiner use though. But if you clobber a pedestrian with that one, there’s a serious problem!!
Pete 
rearaxle:
Here you go 0
That thing looks bloody huge, but is it all that much bigger? Or is it just because it’s being compared to a 12 tonner?
I remember my second day working and looking at the 18t terrorbeast in front of me and thinking “■■■■ I’ve got to drive this thing.”
And then “■■■■ it’s a manual.”
htmldude:
rearaxle:
Here you go 0That thing looks bloody huge, but is it all that much bigger? Or is it just because it’s being compared to a 12 tonner?
I remember my second day working and looking at the 18t terrorbeast in front of me and thinking “[zb] I’ve got to drive this thing.”
And then “[zb] it’s a manual.”
Just wait till you get given a 26 tonner.
Most of it is illusion. The truck is very tall as well as being a full width cab. Many trucks have wheel arches at the front that protrude outside the line of the doors. The TGX, like other big trucks, doesn’t.
But it’s certainly a toy that suits big boys like me!!
Pete
Radar19:
htmldude:
rearaxle:
Here you go 0That thing looks bloody huge, but is it all that much bigger? Or is it just because it’s being compared to a 12 tonner?
I remember my second day working and looking at the 18t terrorbeast in front of me and thinking “[zb] I’ve got to drive this thing.”
And then “[zb] it’s a manual.”
Just wait till you get given a 26 tonner.
wheres the obligatory picture of the side of your juggernaut?
dcgpx:
Nice truck, def large! Quick tangent - on the pic those Iveco mirrors seem to stick out much further than the ones we’ve got, did you change them for learning vehicles? Take someone head off if get too close to kerb[emoji6]
They do look mahoosive
TGX XXL, even in auto form is a man’s truck.
But then again… I would say that 
those Iveco mirrors seem to stick out
Taken a closer look. I think it’s the angle of the photo. They really don’t stick out more than you would expect.
Pete
Surly a “real” truck is a truck with an engine that takes diesel and drives?
I can’t see any difference in training in that, to training in any other type of “real” truck
Peter Smythe:
… I’ve just collected a MAN TGX XXL artic with a 13’6m trailer.
What’s that in feet?
I must admit, having passed in a CF with a 35’ rear-steer trailer, I have been wondering how a bigger trailer will feel/handle/fit!
I make it a shade over 44ft 7in
Normally referred to as 45 feet. But it is a fraction under.
Pete
irishexpat:
Surly a “real” truck is a truck with an engine that takes diesel and drives?I can’t see any difference in training in that, to training in any other type of “real” truck
Correct, just some trainers wanting to be big headed and snobbish about there toys. 
As for me I’m happy to offer the bare minimuim to get candidates through the test.
After all I don’t see many car instructors using range rovers to train with.
Paul
Nothing snobby about it at all Paul. Simply a matter of responding to customer demand and continuing to offer choice. If someone wants to learn on a relatively small drawbar, I’ve got plenty to choose from. But if they want an industry compatible artic, got a couple of those as well.
Pete
Peter Smythe:
Nothing snobby about it at all Paul. Simply a matter of responding to customer demand and continuing to offer choice. If someone wants to learn on a relatively small drawbar, I’ve got plenty to choose from. But if they want an industry compatible artic, got a couple of those as well.Pete
I rest my case your honour lol
Paul
You’ve lost me know. Never mind.
Pete
Hi Pete,
Would the cab be similar to this 12 speed auto rigid MAN TGX 26.360 that I drove for a week or so recently?
A very nice drive I must say, although a bit sluggish from rest (e.g. at roundabouts) where if left to its own devices would pull away in 5th gear and a quick tap on the kick down was needed to avoid embarrassment. On a test that could be a nightmare. The lag did seem more pronounced than the Auto IVECO, Auto Scania and certainly the Auto Volvo that I had previously driven. Of course you could put it in “Manual” but that kind of defeats the whole object from training in an Auto.
The driving position was great - looking ahead over roundabouts was easy, in fact you could almost look over small buildings!!
My only issue there was the massive blind spot caused by the mirror design, especially on the off side where a lot of head bobbing on the final approach to roundabouts was needed to see clearly what was coming. I guess that would impress an examiner though…
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elmet training:
irishexpat:
Surly a “real” truck is a truck with an engine that takes diesel and drives?I can’t see any difference in training in that, to training in any other type of “real” truck
Correct, just some trainers wanting to be big headed and snobbish about there toys.
As for me I’m happy to offer the bare minimuim to get candidates through the test.
After all I don’t see many car instructors using range rovers to train with.
Paul
my point is that if/when the test is passed and employment is secured, it’s doubtful that the said person who has passed and secured the said job is going to get handed the keys to one of them, the only thing I can see that trying to benefit is the image of the trainers company, no offence pete, but putting up a post of want to train in a “real” truck are you trying to belittle other trainers who run standard wagons?
Well done on figuring out how to post pictures Pete.
As I’m sure you are aware of It’s good that you offer a choice of training vehicle types as no doubt some of your customers like ours will want to pass their test on a full sized articulated truck,
not everyone wants to use a drawbar outfit - for reasons best known to themselves.
I doubt we will be ordering it until next year but the next truck we are thinking of is a Volvo FH Globetrotter with a drawbar trailer - shock horror! , obviously it will be a new waggon
because I never find it makes sense with used units - they tend to have more ‘issues’ than a new truck, plus we can get the right spec. However the awesome aspect of the new Volvo’s
is the optional electric steering pump that will KEEP A TRUCK AND TRAILER IN A STRAIGHT LINE FOR OVER 100 METRES WITHOUT LOSING POSITION. Which is frankly mental, on the
reversing exercise drivers will just have pull forwards away from the parking bay, down the boundary line, ensure they are straight with the trailer. Then drive backwards
without steering and the sensors adjust the steering automatically to ensure it remains straight. Sounds like an impossible system that will never work but if it does, I’ll
try it out first, then buy one! But my guess is it will cost about £120,000 including a new trailer. Last time we had a drawbar it was a Volvo FL6 back in 1997 bought new - both truck
and trailer, but coupling the trailer was a pain as the pin could easily be missed, this time though we can now use a reversing camera, just like we do on car and trailer training, which
fixes that problem.
Truck technology is moving so fast, just a one year old truck is out of date nowadays.
OldHector, The Mirrors is the MAN trucks are nightmare at causing blindspots, possibly the best feature apart from the super fast ishift gearbox is the new mirror design,
they are so much better, almost no blindspots, see the picture.
Irishexpat, I don’t think Pete is belittling other trainers trucks, its good that he is proud of his new investment which is frankly only been bought to earn money, you should be glad he
isn’t showing off his new Jaguar on here instead! I doubt many will take the same pleasure at viewing the photo as many users here are full of criticism rather than praise, I think
however, the more trainers using proper trucks a good thing for industry.
Tockwith Training:
Well done on figuring out how to post pictures Pete.As I’m sure you are aware of It’s good that you offer a choice of training vehicle types as no doubt some of your customers like ours will want to pass their test on a full sized articulated truck,
not everyone wants to use a drawbar outfit - for reasons best known to themselves.I doubt we will be ordering it until next year but the next truck we are thinking of is a Volvo FH Globetrotter with a drawbar trailer - shock horror! , obviously it will be a new waggon
because I never find it makes sense with used units - they tend to have more ‘issues’ than a new truck, plus we can get the right spec. However the awesome aspect of the new Volvo’s
is the optional electric steering pump that will KEEP A TRUCK AND TRAILER IN A STRAIGHT LINE FOR OVER 100 METRES WITHOUT LOSING POSITION. Which is frankly mental, on the
reversing exercise drivers will just have pull forwards away from the parking bay, down the boundary line, ensure they are straight with the trailer. Then drive backwards
without steering and the sensors adjust the steering automatically to ensure it remains straight. Sounds like an impossible system that will never work but if it does, I’ll
try it out first, then buy one! But my guess is it will cost about £120,000 including a new trailer. Last time we had a drawbar it was a Volvo FL6 back in 1997 bought new - both truck
and trailer, but coupling the trailer was a pain as the pin could easily be missed, this time though we can now use a reversing camera, just like we do on car and trailer training, which
fixes that problem.Truck technology is moving so fast, just a one year old truck is out of date nowadays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn6dwyUqvA8
OldHector, The Mirrors is the MAN trucks are nightmare at causing blindspots, possibly the best feature apart from the super fast ishift gearbox is the new mirror design,
they are so much better, almost no blindspots, see the picture.Irishexpat, I don’t think Pete is belittling other trainers trucks, its good that he is proud of his new investment which is frankly only been bought to earn money, you should be glad he
isn’t showing off his new Jaguar on here instead! I doubt many will take the same pleasure at viewing the photo as many users here are full of criticism rather than praise, I think
however, the more trainers using proper trucks a good thing for industry.
I’m not trying to criticise pete, he’s bought the truck and “if” it works then fair play! I just can’t see the difference in his “real” truck to any other man’s real truck, a test is to do with driver ability not the “truck” although a road worthy truck would help! I am with a company now 2 years and I’m a long way of there flagship!