Had the pleasure of seeing the Lanc when it was at Coventry ,i believe it had been having some work on it, and the sound of it made the hairs on the back of your neck stand on end .
Daz1970:
East Kirkby is a fantastic place -well worth a visit. They have some great open days/air displays/car shows which mostly involve taxying runs by Just Jane. It is also home of the Lincs. Air museum, well worth a visit even on a ‘non-flying’ day. The airfield has a genuine, authentic WW2 feel - with some great static displays both inside the hangars & all round the airfield. Staff are pleasant & facilities good!! I could be wrong but I’m sure it featured in a recent episode of Midsomer Murders - the one with Bernard Cribbins in it. Any info. on this■■?
Remembered watching the Most Haunted programme there and (if believed) the medium gave details about the museum most people wouldn’t know about. I think it was about a pilot who died and some of his effects that were placed in storage.
Muckaway:
Daz1970:
East Kirkby is a fantastic place -well worth a visit. They have some great open days/air displays/car shows which mostly involve taxying runs by Just Jane. It is also home of the Lincs. Air museum, well worth a visit even on a ‘non-flying’ day. The airfield has a genuine, authentic WW2 feel - with some great static displays both inside the hangars & all round the airfield. Staff are pleasant & facilities good!! I could be wrong but I’m sure it featured in a recent episode of Midsomer Murders - the one with Bernard Cribbins in it. Any info. on this■■?Remembered watching the Most Haunted programme there and (if believed) the medium gave details about the museum most people wouldn’t know about. I think it was about a pilot who died and some of his effects that were placed in storage.
Cosford air museum just off the M54 below Telford is a good day out Nathan. They have a big collection of WW2 planes indoors, also Vulcan and other big planes on display outside. Plus a good cafe on site.
Cheers Dave.
Definitely wore a visit to see Just Jane I took the wife’s Grandfather there a few years ago. He was ground crew there in the war.We also went to RAF Coningsby were we were lucky enough to get inside the Lanc, we were lucky as it was in april and they were flying the Lanc, Spits and Hurricane on there warm ups for the season ahead.There are videos of Just Jane going down the grass runway with the tail wheel in the air.I think she could fly but needs the air certificate.
Quinny:
carryfast-yeti:
Muckaway:
Isn’t there one in this country (apart from the BBMF one) that is almost airworthy? I’m sure it was mentioned on Most Haunted years ago, at an air museum?that’s called ‘Just Jane’,and may be air-worthy in the near future
Absolutely on the money.
The guys at East Kirkby have been gathering parts for some time now, and it is hoped to put her back in the air in the future, subject to CAA inspections.
Sadly it come too late for one of the brothers who own her, Fred Panton, who died last year.
The CWH Lanc from Canada coming here in August, is going to be like the Olympics, a once in a lifetime chance to see her and PA474 from the BBMF together. The rumour machine is just about on fire with what might happen, but the only people that will know, are those involved, but it certainly would be fitting to see all 3 in the air, but I very much doubt it will happen, but if the 2 airworthy one were to attend East Kirkby, then a pic on the ground with them together, would be equally as good.
By the way. Since 2004, I have been fortunate enough to have the BBMF involved with booked flypasts for events that I’ve been part of. I have had the Lanc, 3 Spits and 1 Hurricane. I have also attended LLA members day at Coningsby, and had the end of season airshow with all of the serviceable flight up together.
How cool is that.
I am also one of the few civilians that has been allowed inside the Lanc which happened on my youngest daughters 13th birthday, courtesy of a member of the groundcrew that goes onto the same aircraft forums as myself. Hows that for a birthday treat?
Ken.
We managed to get three flypasts at our race meeting last year, it was part of the classic motorcycle festival at Donington Park.
killsville:
bazza123:
Is the Vulcan still going? I thought they had run out of cash?Not true at all.
XH558 is currently undergoing a wing modification and will continue to fly for two more seasons before she will be grounded for good.
Take a look at their website.
vulcantothesky.org
Good to hear but why only two more seasons??
bazza123:
killsville:
bazza123:
Is the Vulcan still going? I thought they had run out of cash?Not true at all.
XH558 is currently undergoing a wing modification and will continue to fly for two more seasons before she will be grounded for good.
Take a look at their website.
vulcantothesky.orgGood to hear but why only two more seasons??
The wing modification has been completed this week and will be undergoing testing in the coming weeks.
Unfortunately, the airframe is almost time expired and coupled to the shortage of serviceable Rolls Royce Bristol Olympus 202 engines, 2015 will be its final display season. I believe it has already flown more hours than anticipated when it was returned to flight status back in 2007.
It is a real shame because it’s appearance at air shows really pulls in the crowds. It missed Waddington air show a few years ago and it was said that crowd numbers were down by about 20000 spectators a day!
If there is one plane you need to see fly before you die, this is it!
Dave the Renegade:
Muckaway:
Daz1970:
East Kirkby is a fantastic place -well worth a visit. They have some great open days/air displays/car shows which mostly involve taxying runs by Just Jane. It is also home of the Lincs. Air museum, well worth a visit even on a ‘non-flying’ day. The airfield has a genuine, authentic WW2 feel - with some great static displays both inside the hangars & all round the airfield. Staff are pleasant & facilities good!! I could be wrong but I’m sure it featured in a recent episode of Midsomer Murders - the one with Bernard Cribbins in it. Any info. on this■■?Remembered watching the Most Haunted programme there and (if believed) the medium gave details about the museum most people wouldn’t know about. I think it was about a pilot who died and some of his effects that were placed in storage.
Cosford air museum just off the M54 below Telford is a good day out Nathan. They have a big collection of WW2 planes indoors, also Vulcan and other big planes on display outside. Plus a good cafe on site.
Cheers Dave.
Almost everything is now indoors. The Cold War Exhibition houses the Vulcan, Victor and only surviving Vickers Valliant.
Anyone considering a visit will not be disappointed.
killsville:
bazza123:
killsville:
bazza123:
Is the Vulcan still going? I thought they had run out of cash?Not true at all.
XH558 is currently undergoing a wing modification and will continue to fly for two more seasons before she will be grounded for good.
Take a look at their website.
vulcantothesky.orgGood to hear but why only two more seasons??
The wing modification has been completed this week and will be undergoing testing in the coming weeks.
Unfortunately, the airframe is almost time expired and coupled to the shortage of serviceable Rolls Royce Bristol Olympus 202 engines, 2015 will be its final display season. I believe it has already flown more hours than anticipated when it was returned to flight status back in 2007.
It is a real shame because it’s appearance at air shows really pulls in the crowds. It missed Waddington air show a few years ago and it was said that crowd numbers were down by about 20000 spectators a day!
If there is one plane you need to see fly before you die, this is it!
Putting at least one Concorde back into the air again would probably provide a reasonable replacement to provide an idea of the performance of such types of aircraft.Knowing the CAA’s reputation for forcing flyable aircraft into museums,for ‘strange reasons’ ( usually involving the issues of government funding for military grade maintenance backup and/or political reasons related to an aversion to fast jets being allowed to fly 
) ,I’ve always got my doubts when yet another example takes place.It happened with the Lightning and it’s obviously happened with the V Bombers.Ironically the removal of the Concorde fleet would probably have resulted in plenty of Olympus engines being available at least.
They have a static Vulcan a Norwich plus a Nimrod amongst other things. You can climb into the Vulcan cockpit, it’s really a right squeeze to climb up there.
Carryfast:
Putting at least one Concorde back into the air again would probably provide a reasonable replacement to provide an idea of the performance of such types of aircraft.Knowing the CAA’s reputation for forcing flyable aircraft into museums,for ‘strange reasons’ ( usually involving the issues of government funding for military grade maintenance backup and/or political reasons related to an aversion to fast jets being allowed to fly
Unfortunately, there are many variants of the Olympus engine. The 593’s used in Concorde are sadly not compatible with Vulcan XH558. There are only two other Vulcans with serviceable engines (XL426 at Southend Airport and XM655 at Wellesbourne Mountford) and both of these run the 301 series engine, which, like concorde, are not compatible.
As you say Carryfast, between the CAA and the government, we now end up with museum pieces. And don’t get me started about the Harrier!
bazza123:
They have a static Vulcan a Norwich plus a Nimrod amongst other things. You can climb into the Vulcan cockpit, it’s really a right squeeze to climb up there.
Very small cockpit for such a large plane! You have to take your hat off to the men who flew them, especially the 15 hour non stop missions to the Falklands back in 1982!
killsville:
Carryfast:
Putting at least one Concorde back into the air again would probably provide a reasonable replacement to provide an idea of the performance of such types of aircraft.Knowing the CAA’s reputation for forcing flyable aircraft into museums,for ‘strange reasons’ ( usually involving the issues of government funding for military grade maintenance backup and/or political reasons related to an aversion to fast jets being allowed to flyUnfortunately, there are many variants of the Olympus engine. The 593’s used in Concorde are sadly not compatible with Vulcan XH558. There are only two other Vulcans with serviceable engines (XL426 at Southend Airport and XM655 at Wellesbourne Mountford) and both of these run the 301 series engine, which, like concorde, are not compatible.
As you say Carryfast, between the CAA and the government, we now end up with museum pieces. And don’t get me started about the Harrier!
That seems to explain the problem of the supply of engines for it.It’s surprising that the Olympus seems to have different variants and that there’s no way of making any of them compatible with each other.Which just seems to leave that idea of putting one of the Concorde fleet into flying condition to provide a similar show for the public. 
As for the CAA and the government I think they’ve made their position clear,on the issue of them not wanting fast jets in the air,for whatever reasons,in the sad case of the Lightning. 
Although personally I was never impressed by the Harrier preferring the days when the sound barrier was regularly allowed to be broken at airshows to making fixed wing aircraft hover. 
Carryfast:
As for the CAA and the government I think they’ve made their position clear,on the issue of them not wanting fast jets in the air,for whatever reasons,in the sad case of the Lightning.
In the case of the Lightning, I believe it was due to a lack of back up systems in the event of mechanical failure. Whilst being 50 years ahead of it’s time, there were many reliability issues hence the CAA etc putting their foot down back in the mid 80’s when they left RAF service.
A Lightning recently flew in South Africa, owned by the chap who ran Thunder City. If I remember right, Thunder City folded after the crash of it’s Lightning ZU-BEX
in 2009 which killed the pilot, Dave Stock.
killsville:
Carryfast:
As for the CAA and the government I think they’ve made their position clear,on the issue of them not wanting fast jets in the air,for whatever reasons,in the sad case of the Lightning.In the case of the Lightning, I believe it was due to a lack of back up systems in the event of mechanical failure. Whilst being 50 years ahead of it’s time, there were many reliability issues hence the CAA etc putting their foot down back in the mid 80’s when they left RAF service.
A Lightning recently flew in South Africa, owned by the chap who ran Thunder City. If I remember right, Thunder City folded after the crash of it’s Lightning ZU-BEX
in 2009 which killed the pilot, Dave Stock.
It’s obvious that the Lightning was always going to be compromised to an extent by it’s old tech design.But it seems to have served the RAF reasonably well through it’s service life and the South African crash might have been more to do with the lack of military grade service back up than any inherent danger with the aircraft and certainly not as bad as the reputation which the Starfighter had.It’s probably more about not wishing to fund the maintenance of our military flying heritage than safety.
Thought of you today Killsville when dropping off at Staverton today
Cheers Ade
Carryfast:
It’s probably more about not wishing to fund the maintenance of our military flying heritage than safety.
Summed up my feelings too.
‘The Thin Blue Line’ video is excellent. Taken just a few few weeks before ZU-BEX was lost. I wonder if Brian Cox used the sick bag on that vertical take off?
lurpak:
Thought of you today Killsville when dropping off at Staverton today
Cheers Ade
Ouch!
Long time since I’ve been to Staverton. My brother took his PPL there back in the mid 90’s.
killsville:
lurpak:
Thought of you today Killsville when dropping off at Staverton today
Cheers AdeOuch!
Long time since I’ve been to Staverton. My brother took his PPL there back in the mid 90’s.
Daft question what is PPL? Cheers