Does anybody else agree that this job is mostly all about keeping up appearances/seen to be doing the right thing, but with no real substance.
A few examples, DCPC,.so now we are all seen to be professionally competent (don’t make me ■■■■ laugh,… when you see some of em ) but the certificate is a complete joke for all the reasons we all know.
The ridiculous ■■■■ hours we are expected to work compared to other jobs, …Oh no we don’t, we have WTD and POA, so on paper we work normal hours we do.
Load security, the old strapping down cardboard to within an inch of it’s life chestnut…looks good but totally ■■■■ unnecessary.
H&S…how long have you got.
All this modern management style ‘Compliance’ dog ■■■■ , where you are told to jump through hoops, otherwise you face the wrath of '‘disciplinary action’ (ooh shaking in me shoes at the thought. ) but if an occasion arises wher it suits ‘them’ it all goes out the window.
Couple of examples…it’s suitably and totally ignored if you work through your break to achieve their instructions (I don’t btw)
Just last night,… parked up at 1845 got a call 30 mins later, which I would normally ignore, but I’m thinking Fri night, got my instructions, so I was curious,.(and tbf the change of plan did save me ■■■■ ing about this morning, and lt was an easier option) but I was sat about to 2030 waiting for him to call back, we all know they are not meant to contact you on your daily or weekly rest, as they do…through the week I would have just ignored it, and have done in the past.
I’m sure there are other types of examples, but you get my point, all keeping up appearance and seen to be doing things correctly on the surface, but basically all pure ■■■■■■■■ with no real substance.
I’m guessinging, somebody wasn’t parked near a suitable place to eat, had counted his socks and just finished his last Ginsters,. So I best vent myself before I get home…
Box ticking exercises mate, nothing more, nothing less. I very much doubt that it’s peculiar to this industry though and I imagine that similar discussions are going on in plumber.net or brickie.net even now.
As a whole we (or rather our superiors) have created layers of middle managers probably to insulate themselves from any fallout from incompetence or mismanagement. Said middle managers are invariably graduates rich in theory and poor in experience. What they are however is smart. Smart enough to realise that they need to be seen to actually be doing something to justify their wages. Thus we get endless ■■■■■■■■ saddled upon us. It wasn’t always so, but I guarantee it will always be so in future.
the maoster:
Box ticking exercises mate, nothing more, nothing less. I very much doubt that it’s peculiar to this industry though and I imagine that similar discussions are going on in plumber.net or brickie.net even now.
As a whole we (or rather our superiors) have created layers of middle managers probably to insulate themselves from any fallout from incompetence or mismanagement. Said middle managers are invariably graduates rich in theory and poor in experience. What they are however is smart. Smart enough to realise that they need to be seen to actually be doing something to justify their wages. Thus we get endless ■■■■■■■■ saddled upon us. It wasn’t always so, but I guarantee it will always be so in future.
I guess that’s were I’m lucky, working for a 3rd generation family firm, there’s only 1 person in charge, any problems you go and see, and get a straight answer, none of the pointy shoe that others have to deal with,
As someone said i think its spread across the job market. many times i have had an induction of 3-4 days at a warehouse in a class room being told me must do this and we must do that only to find the team leaders on the floor actively encourage you to “break the rules” If i have a tall pallet of boxes i make sure its wrapped and at least one strap round it if not 2. Everyone knows that as soon as i have to brake hard its going over but i have played the game.
maga:
same pointless crap in every working class industry/job
it’s almost as if “they” think we are all idiots
That’s the issue, we do have a high proportion of idiots in this industry, so the Management factor that in,.
The hardest thing is trying to prove to Mr X and Y that you aren’t one of them idiots…
biggriffin:
I’m guessinging, somebody wasn’t parked near a suitable place to eat, had counted his socks and just finished his last Ginsters,. So I best vent myself before I get home…
You are correct with your statement…
Not far wrong mate.
Chipps t/stop, managed to get a shower but cafe shut (one lad I talked to told me I had a lucky escape on that front.) still had a couple of home made currys in fridge, and dare I say it…a couple of Budweisers.
On the sock front …still doing my Miami vice revival with a pair of Lacoste canvas shoes, so still looking as cool as ever.
Not reduced to the dozy/Ginsters theme as yet.
biggriffin:
I’m guessinging, somebody wasn’t parked near a suitable place to eat, had counted his socks and just finished his last Ginsters,. So I best vent myself before I get home…
You are correct with your statement…
Not far wrong mate.
Chipps t/stop, managed to get a shower but cafe shut (one lad I talked to told me I had a lucky escape on that front.) still had a couple of home made currys in fridge, and dare I say it…a couple of Budweisers.
On the sock front …still doing my Miami vice revival with a pair of Lacoste canvas shoes, so still looking as cool as ever.
Not reduced to the dozy/Ginsters theme as yet.
OMG you sat in your Vehicle and drank alcoholic beverages, Let’s just hope our latest do-gooder on here doesn’t read this post and lambaste your good self, but keep up the Miami vice look, I’m doing the flopski look, crocks and shorts, and my worldly goods in a Aldi bag for life…
biggriffin:
I’m guessinging, somebody wasn’t parked near a suitable place to eat, had counted his socks and just finished his last Ginsters,. So I best vent myself before I get home…
You are correct with your statement…
Not far wrong mate.
Chipps t/stop, managed to get a shower but cafe shut (one lad I talked to told me I had a lucky escape on that front.) still had a couple of home made currys in fridge, and dare I say it…a couple of Budweisers.
On the sock front …still doing my Miami vice revival with a pair of Lacoste canvas shoes, so still looking as cool as ever.
Not reduced to the dozy/Ginsters theme as yet.
OMG you sat in your Vehicle and drank alcoholic beverages, Let’s just hope our latest do-gooder on here doesn’t read this post and lambaste your good self, but keep up the Miami vice look, I’m doing the flopski look, crocks and shorts, and my worldly goods in a Aldi bag for life…
Nah you’re well behind the times mate, I was rocking the crocks and shorts look 12 yrs ago while on Belgian plates, and calling everybody Monsieur and shrugging my shoulders…an excellent way of getting out of something I had done wrong.
the maoster:
Box ticking exercises mate, nothing more, nothing less. I very much doubt that it’s peculiar to this industry though and I imagine that similar discussions are going on in plumber.net or brickie.net even now.
As a whole we (or rather our superiors) have created layers of middle managers probably to insulate themselves from any fallout from incompetence or mismanagement. Said middle managers are invariably graduates rich in theory and poor in experience. What they are however is smart. Smart enough to realise that they need to be seen to actually be doing something to justify their wages. Thus we get endless ■■■■■■■■ saddled upon us. It wasn’t always so, but I guarantee it will always be so in future.
Yep,.and as you’ve said to me a few times…nice to get the opportunity from them to beat them with their own stick, and watch their ■■■■ stupid rules backfire on em.
maga:
same pointless crap in every working class industry/job
it’s almost as if “they” think we are all idiots
That’s the issue, we do have a high proportion of idiots in this industry, so the Management factor that in,.
The hardest thing is trying to prove to Mr X and Y that you aren’t one of them idiots…
As I think Robroy regularly says, they work to the lowest common denomination, and that is pretty low in some places. It’s Down to pure laziness, if you get to know your blokes (and ladies and other genders) then you get to figure out who are the switched ones and who are the mongs. Leave the switched on ones to get on with the job and focus on managing the idiots. Easy way to increase morale
biggriffin:
I’m guessinging, somebody wasn’t parked near a suitable place to eat, had counted his socks and just finished his last Ginsters,. So I best vent myself before I get home…
You are correct with your statement…
Not far wrong mate.
Chipps t/stop, managed to get a shower but cafe shut (one lad I talked to told me I had a lucky escape on that front.) still had a couple of home made currys in fridge, and dare I say it…a couple of Budweisers.
On the sock front …still doing my Miami vice revival with a pair of Lacoste canvas shoes, so still looking as cool as ever.
Not reduced to the dozy/Ginsters theme as yet.
OMG you sat in your Vehicle and drank alcoholic beverages, Let’s just hope our latest do-gooder on here doesn’t read this post and lambaste your good self, but keep up the Miami vice look, I’m doing the flopski look, crocks and shorts, and my worldly goods in a Aldi bag for life…
Nah you’re well behind the times mate, I was rocking the crocks and shorts look 12 yrs ago while on Belgian plates, and calling everybody Monsieur and shrugging my shoulders…an excellent way of getting out of something I had done wrong.
I’m a bit behind with fashion, but then isn’t Miami vice look even older, or is that classed as vintage/retro stylee… Bang on trend.
Wheel Nut:
I wasted 3 years of my life putting BS5750 - ISO9002 into operation as well as preparing for the Millennium Bug.
We killed all our Beef Cattle and Chickens because of CJD and Avian Flu.
Now I have more KPI figures than I can shake a stick at.
There is a cure for SARS. We understand Novichok
The latest pandemic will be cured by an Islamic terrorist using Ammonium Nitrate and a piece of Mutton.
I am reading the new regulation for drivers hours at the moment because everything you were taught on your DCPC is now wrong.
Ding ding ding…
We have a winner!
When BullSit 5750 was pushed on us, all I saw were new stickers on the same old trailers and a few new straps. Ultimately a massive waste of time and money.
I come into work, kick the tyres, get going, deliver, collect, spin it out if I want and then go home. That hasn’t changed for decades mainly because it can’t.
@biggriffin…How very dare you,…me??
I’ve got much more retro 80s style than that mate, he ain’t even got his collar up at the back,.shades, nor his sleeves rolled up.
Im waiting on the £s per hour going up then il jump back in a unit for real. Sitting back chilling away from drop to drop not worrying about a thing as its all timed and tracked now.
No phone calls to ask where you are as they see dot on screen. No need for excuses for stopping at some dollys house on route.
Be a cushty job in 5 years i reckon.
If the pay is good then il drive wagons again. If not then il stick to what i do now.
Nah you’re well behind the times mate, I was rocking the crocks and shorts look 12 yrs ago while on Belgian plates, and calling everybody Monsieur and shrugging my shoulders…an excellent way of getting out of something I had done wrong.
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What ! Crocs even then were for wearing in showers only
robroy: @biggriffin…How very dare you,…me??
I’ve got much more retro 80s style than that mate, he ain’t even got his collar up at the back,.shades, nor his sleeves rolled up.
whOooops that’s last week’s picture, while waiting for that Shunter bloke, to buy coffee…
) but the certificate is a complete joke for all the reasons we all know.
) but if an occasion arises wher it suits ‘them’ it all goes out the window.
