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You mentioned coal wagons Jim,well here’s one in a bit of a state on Arthur Street,Edinburgh 
I like the “grate expectations” on the door 
And yer man here,“Tam the scaffie” will be round to help clear the mess up when he’s done on High Street,Edinburgh.
The last picture courtesy of my mate Jim Bell,a long time Edinburgh area resident.
Dave, nice pic of the DAF and tank.Thanks. Can we take it there was no particular colour scheme for the fleet?..jim
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Nice pics Jim.I often see Shorts motors on the M90.I can only ever rember Mullens as Mullens of Musselburgh and very rarely see any of Sams motors at all now. I remember working in the street in an industrial estate in Carlisle one pouring dark night and,one of Andersons drivers pulling up,loaded with plate.He says "Ill give you a fiver if you pull my trailer brakes up"
No problem and they needed it.He tested the brakes up the road AND came back and gave me my fiver.
The Broxburn tank picture shows the tank in Sloans Haulage original paint scheme and the unit is in the colours he started changing to before the sell out.I think that unit was one of the first Dafs in that colour.There was a Scanny in red and white for a while before that but only pulled a fridge box.The Scanny had a professional driver on it…he had his own grease gun.
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You mentioned coal wagons Jim,well here’s one in a bit of a state on Arthur Street,Edinburgh
And yer man here,“Tam the scaffie” will be round to help clear the mess up when he’s done on High Street,Edinburgh.
The last picture courtesy of my mate Jim Bell,a long time Edinburgh area resident.
Is that Ruth Madoc to the left in the second pic?
hi ya everyone , shorts/anderson, F SHORT started firstly as stevedores on the newcastle quay,they had a few motors mostly commers doing local work, then as the dock work drop off they branched out into transport , also had a depot at hull, think is closed down in the 70ty ,ran a mixed fleet aec, leyland pale green in colour,they moved from newcastle to felling about the same time ,think sam anderson bought them out early 80ty peter anderson was in charge of anderson at that time, jimmy miller was the office man he delt with all the subbies and out going loads, fred short retired when anderson bought him out, sorry i am unable to post photos, but you my be able to view them on the photobucket site, 
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Stravaiger,sorry if it sounded like I didnt believe Mullens had been bought out by Sam,I knew that,I just didnt know their other name.I remember Scot-Haul trucks,didn`t know it was them.
Bumper added some good points on Shorts or ‘Shorties’ as we called them in Geordieland. They were often seen around Newcastle Quayside, as the yard was around there near to Spillers large mill, along with other names like Capstaffs, McPhees, JR Adams and Ouseburn (Steenburg’s), Baxters and others when the quay was a busy place. I worked with the workshop foremans son as apprentice’s at the local AEC distributors and often had Shorts Mercury’s (Ergo cabs) in for any repair work. He later became the foreman also and must have been there when Anderson’s took over. As Bumper said they had a Lime Green livery unusually bright for those days and I’m almost certain it had F Short & Son on the doors and headboard and Hull was also named as one of the depots, come to think of it there might be a pic on Bubbs Scrapbook pages but with over 70 pages now it might take some finding! I work quite close to the present yard in Felling, I wonder if they have any old photo’s, might be worth a pop in. Cheers Franky.
There’s a lot o Andersons tippers on the Ayrshire opencast’s also Mullens which over the year’s have run in Dark Blue some in a Mid Blue and I noticed one last week in the same red as Anderson so maybe they’re no sure what coulor to use,there’s only one thing the same about them they are aye on the limiter.Eddie.
Ahh, found that F Short & Sons pic and now I remember looking at it the bottom part of the cab and chassis was a darker Green, nice clean fleet I recall also. Franky
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Revolving door right enough Chris. I know we say it repeatedly on here but were does the time go? Really seems just the other day.
Your right about the Foden pic. You can almost hear it starting up and scrunching it’s way out onto the “Tartan Track” to use the old CB Jargon
I know we don’t want to hear the same old blah blah BUT this is what Iv’e always meant about using own and others images to add flesh to a thread and as you rightly point out youv’e already purchased that cracking book but still enjoy coming across an image on here. A picture paints a thousand words as they say, and maybe, just maybe it someone else will buy the book. What do you think Chris should we dig in for commissionBenny, Again I must admit when I re-read my post something seemed missing, and that was the year 1984. Nothing to do with Big Brother (The other one
The driver you mentioned, Tam Grenville, seems to ring a bell but not in my time there of around 18 months although quite a few where there from Strathy and if I put my thinking cap on I could probably come up with a few names like Tam Cliens, Jimmy Cassells etc etc.Coombe of Carmyle, didn’t they have a largish Skip operation?
Here is one of the tubs I had at the time and it became mine when they asked for a volunteer and I wasn’t quick enough at stepping backwards…jim
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Hello Jim, here is another old company from Cleland or is it Clelland ?. I bet that this one was painted by a Sassenach sign writer .
hi stravaiger, when Anderson took over shorts most of shorties lads pack the job in, pace was to hot for them, a days run for Sam’s was Newcastle to banbury tip back to scunthorpe or sheffield load or change trailer and home if you were on the north run it was pipes to montrose, tip back to newhouses change trailers and home 
some of the lads where on about mcalpines job at ardyne piont, that was another job where its got to be there asap, normal run was Newcastle to Kettering change trailer then up to gourock for the first west highlands ferry 6-0am this ferry went straight to ardyne unload reload anything that had to go back to Kettering,if you was running light “IE” under16 ton gross used to run up to dunoon and get the British rail ferry back to gourock, it had a bar on it so you managed a couple of pints before you landed , 
happy days bumper
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I like that Seddon pic reminds me of my old man’s, his was a C reg 1965 32:4:6LX and one of the first 32 ton plated Seddons ready for the weight rise. This one must be earlier about 61 maybe as it has the split screen and doesn’t seem to be Gardner engined as no badge but it does have something on the grille, could have had the 470 AEC in. It also seems to me the picture was taken at the Seddon works as an old book I have has similar landscape pics behind the Seddons (rainy wet days too), one of these is a 30:4:6LX belonging to Bartletts & Sons Airdrie, is this name familiar to our Northern British friends. Nice clear photo that. Franky.
A nice read that Jim,thanks.Aye,Gretna too near home and why not Dover,when I was down in Swansea and not wanting another night away I used to say to mesen - “Sheffield’s only a couple of fields away from Swansea - Lichfield and Chesterfield”,make another sheet out and away home.
Mind you Newcastle - Banbury - Sheffield/Scunthorpe - Newcastle weren’t a bad day same as Newcastle - Montrose - Newhouse - Newcastle - you’d have eyes like racing dog’s knackers at the end of the week,thats when drivers were drivers eh?
A bloke I knew was an owner driver with a 8-legger Scammell Routeman,affectionally known as the “land crab”.He worked out of Steel Peech and Tozer (BSC) Sheffield and never had one night away from home.He would get National Cash Dundee regular and say “Englands only an island including Scotland and not big enough to have a night out” and away he’d go,there and back,bless him.I’ve sat in cafes and pubs with drivers and come out later bloody travel sick,there was always somebody who’d done more in a day or night than the last man to speak,I used to love it just listening and laughing,great days.
Hi Jim, the photo of that Seddon was given to me by an old mate who I worked with years ago called John Harrison and it was one of a batch that was about to be thrown into a skip for burning when the photo studio closed down. John’s son in law fished out a couple of dozen of them thinking that John might be interested. They were all photos of new Seddons taken near the Seddon works in Oldham and here is another one that you might be interested in.
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Hi Jim, you mentioned wah wah, Jimmy Wilson, in the days when him myself & Lenny Tuffely used to drink together, Jimmy’s wife had him fitted with a tracking device, or maybe it just seemed that way, every pub we went into the phone would ring and it would be Betty " tell my Jimmy to come home Now " we never did figure out how she did it, maybe she called every pub in the area.
happy days.
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nice one jim that 111 was in redpath dorman long trafford park approx 1980 andersons have always been a fav from a kid when i first ventured up the tartan track