robroy:
switchlogic:
robroy:
[I did clearly state it was my choice,Just as well I said ‘as you point out then’
Yep.
At least you’ve stopped arguing about my ‘Harder to earn’ point then. (or ‘■■■■■■■■’ as you described it) so I did make SOME progress.
It’s still ■■■■■■■■ 
toonsy:
robroy:
Jeez…I told him NOT to mention those pics I sent him, you can trust nobody these days.
You sent them to me remember when you gave me some “advice”.
It hurt putting my finger there
Now I know you’re lying, my advice is valuable and I’m selective who I give it to.
A couple of things I’d add about working in Ireland.
When I worked there, a couple of years back, it was the hardest work and lingest hours I’ve ever worked. I was based in Connaught where there is very little driving work available and the EE took most of what was, meant the company could take you to the limits of legality every week. (They were vigilant enough to stop you exceeding hours by sending out a van when you reached your limit)
Secondly, and most important, following Brexit, you cannot work in Ireland on a UK licence. You had until the end of 2020 to transfer your UK licence to an Irish one, as long as you have an irish address. So you need to ask your employer how that’ll work. Carbotage is only available on a limit of 2 pick-ups.
LazyDriver:
A couple of things I’d add about working in Ireland.
When I worked there, a couple of years back, it was the hardest work and lingest hours I’ve ever worked. I was based in Connaught where there is very little driving work available and the EE took most of what was, meant the company could take you to the limits of legality every week. (They were vigilant enough to stop you exceeding hours by sending out a van when you reached your limit)
Secondly, and most important, following Brexit, you cannot work in Ireland on a UK licence. You had until the end of 2020 to transfer your UK licence to an Irish one, as long as you have an irish address. So you need to ask your employer how that’ll work. Carbotage is only available on a limit of 2 pick-ups.
You can drive an Irish lorry on a UK driving licence however you need to transfer your CPC card to an Irish one and that doesn’t require you to have an Irish address just proof that you are working for an Irish company.
LazyDriver:
A couple of things I’d add about working in Ireland.
When I worked there, a couple of years back, it was the hardest work and lingest hours I’ve ever worked.
More evidence that it’s a bait and switch offer to fill a job that other ‘experienced’ drivers don’t want.
As opposed to we have a 1 month on Euro and 1 month on Irish ‘domestic’ rota for everyone.We’ll start you on Euro work to make sure you’re up to it and to show good faith. 
You can drive an Irish lorry on a UK driving licence however you need to transfer your CPC card to an Irish one and that doesn’t require you to have an Irish address just proof that you are working for an Irish company.
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I see you’re from the North so I’d imagine you know your stuff. So if you hold a UK licence and don’t live in Ireland you can work in ireland, but if you live in ireland, you need to hold an Irish licence. Have I got that right? I only ask because I know they were hammering it home on the radio last year that you need to exchange your UK licence for an Irish one.
Sorry, also ment to add, the cost of living in Ireland is a lot higher than the UK and especially Scotland. If you’re living in your cab for a couple of weeks at a time, you may want to factor this in to your calculations as to chase your dreams or not.
LazyDriver:
Sorry, also ment to add, the cost of living in Ireland is a lot higher than the UK and especially Scotland. If you’re living in your cab for a couple of weeks at a time, you may want to factor this in to your calculations as to chase your dreams or not.
It sounds more like living in the cab permanently with a full weekly rest period at home every two weeks.
Then somehow it’s closer to 80 hours pw than 40 ? stuck in a place the size the of Ireland and with a 90 hour per fortnight driving time limit.Go figure.
That’s a long way from the ‘dream’ of UK or Ireland-Italy or Spain or beyond-UK or Ireland full loads.
LazyDriver:
You can drive an Irish lorry on a UK driving licence however you need to transfer your CPC card to an Irish one and that doesn’t require you to have an Irish address just proof that you are working for an Irish company.
I see you’re from the North so I’d imagine you know your stuff. So if you hold a UK licence and don’t live in Ireland you can work in ireland, but if you live in ireland, you need to hold an Irish licence. Have I got that right? I only ask because I know they were hammering it home on the radio last year that you need to exchange your UK licence for an Irish one.
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Seems an odd way to go about things.
If the driver wants to quit after working with the Irish company and go on for a UK one, then change DCPC card again?
The UK card has the same Driver number as the driving licence. So do the two Govs mutually respect each other’s qualifications? Does the Eire DCPC carry the UK driver number to prove the two belong to the same person?
If the Govs recognise each other’s cards, why change cards anyway?
I assume the country issuing the licence also issues the tacho digi card?
Franglais:
I see you’re from the North so I’d imagine you know your stuff. So if you hold a UK licence and don’t live in Ireland you can work in ireland, but if you live in ireland, you need to hold an Irish licence. Have I got that right? I only ask because I know they were hammering it home on the radio last year that you need to exchange your UK licence for an Irish one.Seems an odd way to go about things.
If the driver wants to quit after working with the Irish company and go on for a UK one, then change DCPC card again?
The UK card has the same Driver number as the driving licence. So do the two Govs mutually respect each other’s qualifications? Does the Eire DCPC carry the UK driver number to prove the two belong to the same person?
If the Govs recognise each other’s cards, why change cards anyway?
I assume the country issuing the licence also issues the tacho digi card?
gov.uk/government/publicatio … a-guidance
The CTA obviously provides for recognition and/or interchangeability of all the relevant documents.That includes reside UK work in Eire.It’s nothing new.
LazyDriver:
You can drive an Irish lorry on a UK driving licence however you need to transfer your CPC card to an Irish one and that doesn’t require you to have an Irish address just proof that you are working for an Irish company.
I see you’re from the North so I’d imagine you know your stuff. So if you hold a UK licence and don’t live in Ireland you can work in ireland, but if you live in ireland, you need to hold an Irish licence. Have I got that right? I only ask because I know they were hammering it home on the radio last year that you need to exchange your UK licence for an Irish one.
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Aye if you’re resident in the Republic then you need to have an Irish licence which regardless of BREXIT you should have changed anyway within the timeframe. This is only becoming a problem now because a lot of Brits seemed to think that they can move to another country and not bother changing their licence, but due to the UK licence also being an EU licence no one seemed too bothered by it.
Franglais:
LazyDriver:
You can drive an Irish lorry on a UK driving licence however you need to transfer your CPC card to an Irish one and that doesn’t require you to have an Irish address just proof that you are working for an Irish company.I see you’re from the North so I’d imagine you know your stuff. So if you hold a UK licence and don’t live in Ireland you can work in ireland, but if you live in ireland, you need to hold an Irish licence. Have I got that right? I only ask because I know they were hammering it home on the radio last year that you need to exchange your UK licence for an Irish one.
Seems an odd way to go about things.
If the driver wants to quit after working with the Irish company and go on for a UK one, then change DCPC card again?
The UK card has the same Driver number as the driving licence. So do the two Govs mutually respect each other’s qualifications? Does the Eire DCPC carry the UK driver number to prove the two belong to the same person?
If the Govs recognise each other’s cards, why change cards anyway?
I assume the country issuing the licence also issues the tacho digi card?
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Yes the driver number on my Northern Irish licence is the same as my driver number on my Irish CPC card so I’m guessing the two can be cross referenced. The reason for changing was the uncertainty over whether the EU would recognise a UK CPC when driving an Irish lorry I had to send my UK card to the Irish Authorities once I received my Irish one so no need for any time off while waiting for the new card to arrive. There was no cost for doing the changeover just a letter from my boss to prove who I worked for, process took a couple of weeks probably would have taken less if it were not for Covid causing short staffing in Ireland. I assume the process is the same if reverting back to a UK CPC and yes my digi card is a UK one
Mazzer2:
Franglais:
LazyDriver:
You can drive an Irish lorry on a UK driving licence however you need to transfer your CPC card to an Irish one and that doesn’t require you to have an Irish address just proof that you are working for an Irish company.I see you’re from the North so I’d imagine you know your stuff. So if you hold a UK licence and don’t live in Ireland you can work in ireland, but if you live in ireland, you need to hold an Irish licence. Have I got that right? I only ask because I know they were hammering it home on the radio last year that you need to exchange your UK licence for an Irish one.
Seems an odd way to go about things.
If the driver wants to quit after working with the Irish company and go on for a UK one, then change DCPC card again?
The UK card has the same Driver number as the driving licence. So do the two Govs mutually respect each other’s qualifications? Does the Eire DCPC carry the UK driver number to prove the two belong to the same person?
If the Govs recognise each other’s cards, why change cards anyway?
I assume the country issuing the licence also issues the tacho digi card?
Yes the driver number on my Northern Irish licence is the same as my driver number on my Irish CPC card so I’m guessing the two can be cross referenced. The reason for changing was the uncertainty over whether the EU would recognise a UK CPC when driving an Irish lorry I had to send my UK card to the Irish Authorities once I received my Irish one so no need for any time off while waiting for the new card to arrive. There was no cost for doing the changeover just a letter from my boss to prove who I worked for, process took a couple of weeks probably would have taken less if it were not for Covid causing short staffing in Ireland. I assume the process is the same if reverting back to a UK CPC and yes my digi card is a UK one
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Thanks for that.
From what I’ve been reading there are still discussions about what will or won’t be recognised as professional qualifications.
From lawyers, bankers, and accountants to us drivers, etc.
Franglais:
Yes the driver number on my Northern Irish licence is the same as my driver number on my Irish CPC card so I’m guessing the two can be cross referenced. The reason for changing was the uncertainty over whether the EU would recognise a UK CPC when driving an Irish lorry
The CTA governs the relationship between Eire and UK it’s got nothing to do with the EU.We’ve supposedly left the EU we’ve still got the DCPC.
Carryfast:
Franglais:
Yes the driver number on my Northern Irish licence is the same as my driver number on my Irish CPC card so I’m guessing the two can be cross referenced. The reason for changing was the uncertainty over whether the EU would recognise a UK CPC when driving an Irish lorryThe CTA governs the relationship between Eire and UK it’s got nothing to do with the EU.We’ve supposedly left the EU we’ve still got the DCPC.
I blame those bloody Chinese
Little update regarding what’s going on for those interested…
Told the guy that the position isn’t suitable for me at the moment and the real deal breaker was being based in Ireland and away for 2 weeks at a time and only having the one day off essentially as the next day provisions would need to be made to get me back to Ireland.
But on the positive side, he did say he was happy with the assessment drive and I seem to have my head screwed on and that he’s going to try and see if anything comes up to keep me based in Scotland in the next few weeks. So I think that would be a lot better for my day’s off and just in general (a lot better than the 2 weeks on 1 day off rota )
I’ll see what he comes back with, seems to be really accommodating, but the same token I ain’t stressing about it because the job I’m in the now is fine so it’s not the end of the world if there’s nothing this side of the water.
CPCxx:
I’ll see what he comes back with, seems to be really accommodating, but the same token I ain’t stressing about it because the job I’m in the now is fine so it’s not the end of the world if there’s nothing this side of the water.
Push him a bit more on the International work that you’re looking for.
Along the lines that you want to make that move up the ladder sooner rather than later.Preferably the first run you do there.
His answer might just be the game changer that makes it worth the leap.You’re holding some good cards.
I am currently in a similar position as the OP. Been on the bins 3 and 1/2 years now and I’ve got it good in terms of workload and conditions. I’m getting a good wage at the moment with the OT that is always available, however that is soon about to change and we will all be maxxed at standard contracted 40 hours from next month, and to be honest although I could live on core hours, I’d like to earn more.
Now how I differ from the OP is that I came from Class 1 tramping, so I know what to expect and I’m prepared for it, and I’m also on the same view as switchlogic in that for me it’s about what goes in the bank at the end of the month (don’t shoot me…).
There’s a general haulage company (also part of a pallet network) nearby that I would like to approach but before I do my main concern is job security. So I’m just wondering then from current driver’s experience, has COVID drastically affected general haulage at all or is there still plenty of work readily available so not to worry about future redundancy? If so then obviously I may think twice about it.
I’ll stay where you are if your getting that for 35 hours.
Are you sure it’s not 45 hours? Only reason I ask was when I was on the busses I got paid for 45 hours.
I often did more than 45 hours but it was based on 45 average over the year.
If your only doing 35 ill stay where you are and maybe do 10 hours overtime a week.
