Jimmy Savile

switchlogic:
But hey ho, it’s no surprise a man who listens to the church for his moral viewpoint has an interest in young girls.

I’m also sure it’ll be no surprise to the church to hear someone who obviously supports the continuing legalisation and further ‘rights’ for those involved in,or looking for,same ■■■ relationships,think that there’s something creepy,unnatural,and it seems criminal,for an over 18 bloke to be looking for or involved in a relationship with a much younger woman possibly even under the age of 18.Sounds like the toilet calling the shower dirty to me.

kr79:
Carryfast I can assure you I’ve had enough grief off of women to have had a bellyful of them most of it has been deserved to be fair to them but I’m with you on the fact about the Thai brides they just don’t do it for me either.

It’s catch 22 then.Being single isn’t an option and the women are all aggravation. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

Italy is a lot closer to home too but they’re more racist about who their daughters would be allowed date than even I’m supposed to be. :wink: :laughing:

Carryfast:

switchlogic:

Carryfast:
But no it’s obviously not me who’s being a hypocrite in judging what was an illegal type of unnatural relationship that’s been made legal after a lot of protests by those involved in them.While those same lot are then judging what are legal types of relationships by calling for them to be considered as illegal.

No sorry Carry old chum its still you that’s the hypocrite. I haven’t said anything more than already is should be made illegal. Don’t read things that aren’t there. I just think your andl old racist bigot that has a thing for young girls. And despite your late in the day protestations I dont think any age of consent would stop you either. The fact of the matter is I and many others on here it seems find you a dirty creepy old man. Thankfully I think the girls of the UK are safe from you, although you do strike me as one of those types that spends a month a year in Thailand on his own

So are you saying it should be illegal for over an over 18 (adult) bloke to be in a relationship with an under 18 (child) girl or not :question: :question: .

I’m supposed to be a racist in your view remember so why would I want to get involved with looking for a Thai bride of Chinese ethnic origins who’s more than likely just in it for the money to get out of her lousy life anyway.I’m no more racist than any of the other type of foreign ethnic groups who prefer white western women to their own for the simple reason that they’re more attractive than most of the rest with the exception of the Italian birds. :unamused:

Oh come on Carry are you really that stupid I need to answer your first question despite having already done so in the bit you quoted? I never said it should be illegal to have a relationship with a 16 year old as an old man, just that it’s very morally dubious, just like you. Heres a revelation for you, not all immoral acts are illegal and not all illegal acts are necessearily immoral.

As for your second statement, I dare say lots of the old perverts who go to Thailand to shag children would prefer to do it at home with a white girl but don’t. Also I’ve read your last sentence several times and still don’t understand it. Are you saying Italians are not white western types? I know they are often a bit tanned but come on. I doubt you are saying this but the way you construct sentences sometimes is so bad it’s hard to even start to comprehend them.

Carryfast:

switchlogic:
But hey ho, it’s no surprise a man who listens to the church for his moral viewpoint has an interest in young girls.

I’m also sure it’ll be no surprise to the church to hear someone who obviously supports the continuing legalisation and further ‘rights’ for those involved in,or looking for,same ■■■ relationships,think that there’s something creepy,unnatural,and it seems criminal,for an over 18 bloke to be looking for or involved in a relationship with a much younger woman possibly even under the age of 18.Sounds like the toilet calling the shower dirty to me.

And you are most definitely the toilet in that analogy, you fantasise about children, not me. Which at my age would be bad enough but I’d say you’re at least twice my age. You are just as twisted, tormented and bitter as the church itself, as anyone that reads your misinformed bile on here will attest.

Are you already on the ■■■ offenders register? Surely it’s only a matter of time.

Carryfast I think we should make it our mission to get you a date over 30 though.

switchlogic:
Sorry to correct you Mr Nut but the age of consent for people of the same ■■■ is 16!

Jonathan King must thank the lord for the equality agenda of the last decade.

kr79:
Carryfast I think we should make it our mission to get you a date over 30 though.

Thats a good idea, at least then when he launches into a Thatcher based rant over dinner she won’t say ‘who?’ I’ve a feeling he’s not much of a personality man though.

And they climbed into their cabs and drove off into the sunset. :smiley:

I’d lay off the 1970s politics and two stroke Bedford chat. Never found them much good for pinging knicker elastic. :smiley:

Carryfast:
Are you really serious in saying that a 49 let alone 30 year old teacher,who chucks their job in,and then sets up home with their ex pupil when that pupil is 16 and then marries her just as Clive Richards (legally) did,is the same thing as ■■■■■■.You are one (very) seriously mixed up (sick) person. :imp: :imp: :unamused: :unamused:

And where the zb have I ever said that it’s not a criminal act to have a ■■■■■■ relationship with any girl who’s under the age of consent.

My argument is all about the bs situation of a bloke considered as being an ‘adult’ (over 18) being considered as unable to legally have a ■■■■■■ relationship with a woman considered as being a child (under 18).Do you get it. :imp:

And if I was really bitter do you really think that I’d be defending the late 40’s bloke who managed to pull the (well) under 18 bird of my own age who I wanted,because ever since it happened I came to realise it’s what happens in some cases when a couple love each other regardless of age.Instead of saying let’s introduce the same age rules as apply in the States and set the law retrospectively so the zb can then be nicked as a so called dirty old man who went for a child instead of a woman his own age. :unamused:

Whether he is 18 or 78, it is still illegal to shag an under 16 year old girl in the UK. It would be illegal for a 16 year old to shag her too.

That is you being bitter and twisted, if he was that much older and she was under the age, then he was wrong too. Get over it you are in your 50’s. Plenty more fish in the sea and two wrongs don’t make it right

We don’t live in the States where the god botherers dictate the law or Africa where life expectancy is shorter and breeding is paramount to their survival.

So mixed up, sick or evil, I can read and understand the word neither which makes your last rant to me somewhat redundant.

Being a level headed northerner. I sort of understand what is the norm, Middle aged blokes in tracksuits chasing teenage girls is not considered normal, even in Leeds or Scarborough.

A school teacher having a liaison with one of his pupils is not considered normal.

An uncle or parent with eyes on a niece or daughter in a ■■■■■■ way is not considered normal.

Middle aged blokes with a younger girlfriend is life, but not to the depths you seem to condone.

As I said earlier if you want to know what a sick, perverted twisted loony looks like, then look in a mirror. Of course i can only arrive at that conclusion by reading some of your many posts. You have been caught out so many times as a xenophobic racist, homophobic bigot with little real life experience. Am I correct?

Jimmy Savile will be investigated, however it will do no good, it is too late to unearth him, but it may unearth some other misdoings in the world of entertainment that can be stopped or get them prosecuted.

I don’t care if someone is doing drugs in the park or the pub toilets, sleeping with another person of the same ■■■ or different age as long as it doesn’t affect me or my average family.

Wheel Nut:

Carryfast:
Are you really serious in saying that a 49 let alone 30 year old teacher,who chucks their job in,and then sets up home with their ex pupil when that pupil is 16 and then marries her just as Clive Richards (legally) did,is the same thing as ■■■■■■.You are one (very) seriously mixed up (sick) person. :imp: :imp: :unamused: :unamused:

And where the zb have I ever said that it’s not a criminal act to have a ■■■■■■ relationship with any girl who’s under the age of consent.

My argument is all about the bs situation of a bloke considered as being an ‘adult’ (over 18) being considered as unable to legally have a ■■■■■■ relationship with a woman considered as being a child (under 18).Do you get it. :imp:

And if I was really bitter do you really think that I’d be defending the late 40’s bloke who managed to pull the (well) under 18 bird of my own age who I wanted,because ever since it happened I came to realise it’s what happens in some cases when a couple love each other regardless of age.Instead of saying let’s introduce the same age rules as apply in the States and set the law retrospectively so the zb can then be nicked as a so called dirty old man who went for a child instead of a woman his own age. :unamused:

Whether he is 18 or 78, it is still illegal to shag an under 16 year old girl in the UK. It would be illegal for a 16 year old to shag her too.

That is you being bitter and twisted, if he was that much older and she was under the age, then he was wrong too. Get over it you are in your 50’s. Plenty more fish in the sea and two wrongs don’t make it right

We don’t live in the States where the god botherers dictate the law or Africa where life expectancy is shorter and breeding is paramount to their survival.

So mixed up, sick or evil, I can read and understand the word neither which makes your last rant to me somewhat redundant.

Being a level headed northerner. I sort of understand what is the norm, Middle aged blokes in tracksuits chasing teenage girls is not considered normal, even in Leeds or Scarborough.

A school teacher having a liaison with one of his pupils is not considered normal.

An uncle or parent with eyes on a niece or daughter in a ■■■■■■ way is not considered normal.

Middle aged blokes with a younger girlfriend is life, but not to the depths you seem to condone.

As I said earlier if you want to know what a sick, perverted twisted loony looks like, then look in a mirror. Of course i can only arrive at that conclusion by reading some of your many posts. You have been caught out so many times as a xenophobic racist, homophobic bigot with little real life experience. Am I correct?

Jimmy Savile will be investigated, however it will do no good, it is too late to unearth him, but it may unearth some other misdoings in the world of entertainment that can be stopped or get them prosecuted.

I don’t care if someone is doing drugs in the park or the pub toilets, sleeping with another person of the same ■■■ or different age as long as it doesn’t affect me or my average family.

So where the zb have I ever said it’s not illegal to have a ■■■■■■ relationship with a girl under 16 :question: . :confused:

Why are you saying that I’m looking for something that makes two wrongs when all I’m saying is that it’s ok for a bloke over 18 to have a relationship with a woman under the age of 18 subject to exactly the same laws,as you say,that a 16 year old bloke is subject to :question: . :confused: Which was exactly the type of (legal) situation that I lost out to nothing more.

A school teacher having a relationship with one of his pupils isn’t considered legal because of the position of trust bs.Which is easily sorted by just leaving the job just as Clive Richards did.

An uncle or parent who looks on a niece or daughter in a ■■■■■■ way is an incestuous criminal but it seems a bit strange why anyone would want to raise the issue of ■■■■■■ in an argument concerning just age gaps.Unless that person has got some mixed up sick views themselves concerning right and wrong regarding those issues.Maybe it’s you that needs to look in that mirror.

Now I’ll ask again just answer the question I’ve asked.Is there anything wrong in your twisted view with an over 18 bloke having a relationship with an under 18 woman that complies with the age of consent :question: :question: :question: .Yes or no.If yes why and why the zb would such an issue affect you or your average family considering that I’ve seen it happen.It’s just a case of two people being together with a large age gap just the same as if there was no age gap.Nothing more.IE not ■■■■■■,not paedophilia just an ordinary marriage.

switchlogic:

Carryfast:

switchlogic:

Carryfast:
But no it’s obviously not me who’s being a hypocrite in judging what was an illegal type of unnatural relationship that’s been made legal after a lot of protests by those involved in them.While those same lot are then judging what are legal types of relationships by calling for them to be considered as illegal.

No sorry Carry old chum its still you that’s the hypocrite. I haven’t said anything more than already is should be made illegal. Don’t read things that aren’t there. I just think your andl old racist bigot that has a thing for young girls. And despite your late in the day protestations I dont think any age of consent would stop you either. The fact of the matter is I and many others on here it seems find you a dirty creepy old man. Thankfully I think the girls of the UK are safe from you, although you do strike me as one of those types that spends a month a year in Thailand on his own

So are you saying it should be illegal for over an over 18 (adult) bloke to be in a relationship with an under 18 (child) girl or not :question: :question: .

I’m supposed to be a racist in your view remember so why would I want to get involved with looking for a Thai bride of Chinese ethnic origins who’s more than likely just in it for the money to get out of her lousy life anyway.I’m no more racist than any of the other type of foreign ethnic groups who prefer white western women to their own for the simple reason that they’re more attractive than most of the rest with the exception of the Italian birds. :unamused:

Oh come on Carry are you really that stupid I need to answer your first question despite having already done so in the bit you quoted? I never said it should be illegal to have a relationship with a 16 year old as an old man, just that it’s very morally dubious, just like you. Heres a revelation for you, not all immoral acts are illegal and not all illegal acts are necessearily immoral.

As for your second statement, I dare say lots of the old perverts who go to Thailand to shag children would prefer to do it at home with a white girl but don’t. Also I’ve read your last sentence several times and still don’t understand it. Are you saying Italians are not white western types? I know they are often a bit tanned but come on. I doubt you are saying this but the way you construct sentences sometimes is so bad it’s hard to even start to comprehend them.

Right so you’ve answered the question as to wether you think it’s illegal for an over 18 bloke to have a relationship with an under 18 girl.The way I’ve read your answer,just as I’ve said,it’s a load of ageist bs similar to the toilet calling the shower dirty.My advice is,so far, it’s been legal but probably not for much longer,if at all,so keep your hypocritical moralising to yourself.Because if its all about morals then those who engage in same ■■■ relationships would probably be locked up in the same place as Savile should have been.If he’s guilty of the alleged offences against him.Which of course would have meant a trial while he was alive.Strange how no one seemed to come forward with the required evidence while he was alive though.

kr79:
Carryfast I think we should make it our mission to get you a date over 30 though.

I said I wanted her to see her granchildren grow up and hopefully see her great granchildren too.Not possibly/probably be buried with her husband before or by the time her own kids have reached the age of 50.That’s assuming a woman over 30 can even biologically reliably have a family anyway. :bulb:

That’s not forgetting the fact that taking on another bloke’s old dumped wife while he gets another chance in life with the younger single girl I should have is also out.

Carryfast:
so keep your hypocritical moralising to yourself.

My god you are possibly the thickest moron I have ever encountered on this site. If you dont see the irony in that statement coming from you them I’m surprised you even have the intellegence to turn the PC on. YOUR hypocritical moralising was the reason in engaged ypu in this debate. I cant say i care what your perversions are, I just wanted to show you up for the hypocritical bigoted racist homophobic ■■■ you are. Job done. Hilarious. Have a nice evening old bean, work to do.

I dare say I’ll get a telling off from Rikki shortly! Its ok though, I think I’m done with this debate, he’s like a stuck record.

switchlogic:

Carryfast:
so keep your hypocritical moralising to yourself.

My god you are possibly the thickest moron I have ever encountered on this site. If you dont see the irony in that statement coming from you them I’m surprised you even have the intellegence to turn the PC on. YOUR hypocritical moralising was the reason in engaged ypu in this debate. I cant say i care what your perversions are, I just wanted to show you up for the hypocritical bigoted racist homophobic ■■■ you are. Job done. Hilarious. Have a nice evening old bean, work to do.

As I’ve said not so long ago it would have been that ‘other’ group involved in same ■■■ relationships who you’d no doubt want to defend who were (rightly) subjected to all the accusations of perversion etc.As it stands here your ideas seem to sum up the possible agenda behind this case being made against a dead man because it was never intended to go to court.Because,as I’ve said,it seems to be really all about branding a type of,normal,legal,relationship as somehow perverted and illegal by association and twisted connections,with something else totally different which is a criminal offence.Just as you’ve tried to make the case that what I’m saying is in some way criminal because you don’t agree with it,when it’s in fact,so far been,legal.The proof of that seems to be contained in one of the witness statements from one of the alleged victims,who no surprise seems to have been brainwashed into now thinking that just the fact that it was a much older bloke kissing her,obviously compared to if it had been a bloke of her own age,was sufficient evidence to make the claim of ‘abuse’,obviously unlike the situation that applied in her outlook at the time.

Everything which has followed seems to be just an increasing level of unsubstantiated bs based on that difference in societal outlook now compared to the situation then at the time.If that’s not the case then there was nothing stopping these allegations being made at the time or at least while Savile was still alive to answer in court where he could have been convicted ‘if’ he’d been proved guilty.While the case as reported so far raises sufficient questions to have meant charges against many of the so called,adult at the time,witnesses but no surprise that doesn’t seem to have taken place
at least yet.

Both your comments and wheelnut’s here,directed at me,show the type of witch hunt,( based on just your own personal animosity and views,concerning the age gap issue,not the law and just the question as to wether or not actual ■■■■■■ activety had taken place between him and the women in question when those girls were under 16 ),which Savile would have faced if he’d have been alive when these accusations were made.

The whole thing seems even more strange considering how many women have now come forward but not even one of them ever made any complaint to the police at the time.Just like the so called ‘adult witnesses’ to the alleged crimes at the time.

switchlogic:
I dare say I’ll get a telling off from Rikki shortly! Its ok though, I think I’m done with this debate, he’s like a stuck record.

Why when no complaints have been made by anyone concerning your bs.The best way to deal with that is by reasoned argument not by complaining to the mods.

Carryfast:

kr79:
Carryfast I think we should make it our mission to get you a date over 30 though.

I said I wanted her to see her granchildren grow up and hopefully see her great granchildren too.Not possibly/probably be buried with her husband before or by the time her own kids have reached the age of 50.That’s assuming a woman over 30 can even biologically reliably have a family anyway. :bulb:

That’s not forgetting the fact that taking on another bloke’s old dumped wife while he gets another chance in life with the younger single girl I should have is also out.

I think you will find a woman over 30 can get pregnant. Anyway who said she has been dumped she may just not have found mr right.
I’ve never said there’s anything wrong with age gap relationships legally you have hang up about them no one else but they are not the norm when I’m out and about I’d say most couples I see are in the same sort of age bracket. I just think its pathetic when you see some middle aged bloke at a beyonce or whoever concert trying to look hip with his 21 year old girlfriend.

Carryfast old fruit you’re confusing me someone who actually cares. I told you ages ago I was just goading you for fun. Legal relationships are no concern of mine, if a 16 year old wanted to go out with an old codger like you more fool her. I do find old perverts like you fantasizing about children incredibly creepy though, but then I’ve always found you a weird creepy old man. Just like you couldn’t find a Euro job you can’t find a young girl. Not overly sucessful at things are you.

What’s brown, 8 inches long, stinks and not welcome in your kids’ bedroom?
Jimmy Savilles’ cigar.