Jim McKelvie, The Father of Volvo UK & The Mighty Stonefield

I really enjoy the posts on this forum and on a recent post I put on about opinions on the best ever British Long Haul truck , Volvo was mentioned a fair bit. Although a Swedish company the connection to Britain and not just imports but home assembled vehicles was all down to one man, RAF Squadronairre Saxophonist, Haulage Contractor, Vehicle Importer and Manufacturer and all round legend…The Late Jim McKelvie.
Jim McKelvie was born with diesel in his blood, His father owning well known Scottish Haulage Contractor McKelvie & Co. Jim on his de-mob from the RAF where he enjoyed reasonable success as a Saxophonist in the RAF Sqaudronairres Band, joined his fathers haulage concern to later become the top man. He sold out to TDG in the 1960’s although he stayed on as Managing Director he was seemingly unhappy at the management style of TDG so left and formed a vehicle repair business in nearby Barrhead.

While running this business Jim got an idea to import a European truck into the UK so he approached European Manufacturers but was virtually dismissed by them all except for at the time a virtually unheard of Swedish truck builder, Volvo. The legend has it Volvo were unhappy about exporting the F86 model into Britain as they felt it was a light distribution artic along the lines of Fords D Series or Bedfords KM and would have preferred their bigger more powerful F88 model. Seemingly Jim convinced Volvo the mean UK haulage bosses would not cough up the cash for the bigger model but he specced the British import F86 with double hub reduction axles etc to make it more capable. Volvo agreed and Ailsa Trucks ( Barrhead ) was born.

The F86 was an instant hit proving popular with drivers and operators alike. It had power steering, multi adjustable suspension seats, full synchromesh 8sp gearbox, a brilliant heater and it didn’t leak when it rained!!!. Sometime after imports started coming in, Jim oversaw the assembly in Scotland of the popular F86 8 wheeler chassis in either 8x4 or 8x2 configuration. Generally the Scottish built Volvo’s had double headlights making them a wee bit more distinguished from their single headlighted Swedish partners. At the same time Jim introduced the Ailsa double decker bus chassis which unusually for a flat floored double decker was front engined. These excellent bus chassis’ sold in thousands to bus operators all over the UK and were well known for giving excess of 20yrs service they were so well made. Ailsa trucks were such a success they soon grew out of their Barrhead base and moved to a massive new assembly plant in Irvine, North Ayrshire. Another successful venture for Jim McKelvie. Ailsa Trucks soon became Volvo Truck & Bus UK of which Jim McKelvie became a member of the board of directors.

Jim McKelvie was not a man to rest on his laurels and identified a gap in the market for a rugged go anywhere 4x4 or 6x4 light vehicle so he formed a company in Paisley to address this so Stonefield Vehicles were formed. The Stonefield name came from the company who occupied the factory previously to Jim’s new venture, Stonefield Laundry. The Stonefield as very sturdy and capable vehicle, They all had automatic transmission, a choice of a Ford 3.0 V6 or Chrysler 5.0 V8 well proven engines and were capable of climbing amazing gradiants in the mud as well as on road performance well in excess of 80 mph. They were very popular as drill rigs, fire tenders, outside broadcast vehicles etc and could carry payloads and go to places a Landrover owner could only dream off. The company then moved to bigger premises in the Ayrshire town of ■■■■■■■■ This is where sadly it all started to go wrong as Jim McKelvie suddenly took ill and before the Stonefield project really got into full swing in 1977 he died. After Jim McKelvies’ sudden and tragic death, Stonefield hit all sorts of financial problems which led to the then Scottish Development Agency picking up the reins and basically running a company that had a world beating product into the ground. The incompetence of this government quango was infamous and in an act of desperation sold it to the Gomba Group who milked it for all the grants they could get then pulled the rug from under the company before selling all the patents to far eastern manufacturers. The factory was closed and a loyal workforce who made all kinds of sacrifices during the dark days of Stonefield were thrown on the scrap heap. Stonefields former factory in ■■■■■■■ now houses fire tender builder Emergency One.

There is no doubt in my mind had it not been for the tragic death of Jim McKelvie, Stonefield would be the worlds no’1 manufacturer of this type of vehicle as Jim McKelvie was not a man renowned for failure. Only illness and later death caused Stonefield to fail as a company and it was made all the more tragic as the product was second to none. Mismanagement by a government agency who were not content at running a company into the ground but happily sold it on to a group of con-men in the form of Gomba Group ensured the legacy of Jim McKelvie and Stonefield was to be a short entry into automotive history.

Jim McKelvie made a considerable contribution to the British Commercial Vehicle industry as a haulier and vehicle importer/manufacturer. Just how many other individuals in the haulage scene made as big a contribution to the industry as Jim. Sadly the McKelvie name vanished from the haulage industry in the 1980’s but every time a Volvo Truck or Bus passes us on the road a piece of Jim McKelvies’ legacy is carried on that vehicle.

Jim McKelvie…A remarkable man indeed!!!

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My father and I ran a few Volvos over the years and had fairly good service from most of them.
There area few of us on here that had regular runs through and into Turkey, to us calling someone a Saxophone player has a totally different meaning. I don’t meant to take anything away from your fantastic thread, but Saxophone player is very funny…

Jeff…

a very interesting post ,thanks for sharing it :slight_smile:

It’s probably fair to point out another side to that view in that,regardless of the ‘merits’ or otherwise of the F86 and bringing Volvo competition against the domestic manufacturers into the UK in a big way,the Stonefield was ( rightly ) viewed as an absolute joke by any serious emergency vehicle builder and customer.A bit like the Stalwart in that regard.In the case of small fire tenders it was the 6 wheeler Range Rover that was one of the best or the American options like the Dodge Ramcharger.

youtube.com/watch?v=Mxs6hfAe-wA

Carryfast:
It’s probably fair to point out another side to that view in that,regardless of the ‘merits’ or otherwise of the F86 and bringing Volvo competition against the domestic manufacturers into the UK in a big way,the Stonefield was ( rightly ) viewed as an absolute joke by any serious emergency vehicle builder and customer.A bit like the Stalwart in that regard.In the case of small fire tenders it was the 6 wheeler Range Rover that was one of the best or the American options like the Dodge Ramcharger.

youtube.com/watch?v=Mxs6hfAe-wA

I beg to differ my friend, the Stonefield was a very competent machine ruined by political incompetence, That Gomba Group who took it over to asset strip it was even the subject of a World In Action TV programme highlighting all the corrupt stuff they were up too.

Well it certainly looks the part. I remember chatting to a Technician at Ferranti at their Crewe Toll factory in Edinburgh when I was about 15 and he was preparing a Stonefield Field Test Truck they used for testing radar equipment from the most remote locations. According to the guy it was an excellent vehicle off road and drove like a dream on road. Apparently they were flying machines out on the road.

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I worked in the development department at the Stonefield plant in ■■■■■■■ and was often out on the road with the trucks Bagshot & chobham were regular destinations as the MOD were testing them on cross country and endurance tracks in fact they had just passed their 0521 trials when the SDA decided not to put any more money in. Jim Mckelvie had assembled a formidable team in engineering and sales and the truck was destined to be a winner after all it was wiping the board clean at the annual POLICE RALLY where all the cross country vehicles took part. Carryfast your Range Rover hadny a hope in hell in the acceleration stakes against a Stoney with the 5ltr Chrysler. Eddie.

erfguy:
I worked in the development department at the Stonefield plant in ■■■■■■■ and was often out on the road with the trucks Bagshot & chobham were regular destinations as the MOD were testing them on cross country and endurance tracks in fact they had just passed their 0521 trials when the SDA decided not to put any more money in. Jim Mckelvie had assembled a formidable team in engineering and sales and the truck was destined to be a winner after all it was wiping the board clean at the annual POLICE RALLY where all the cross country vehicles took part. Carryfast your Range Rover hadny a hope in hell in the acceleration stakes against a Stoney with the 5ltr Chrysler. Eddie.

That’s about all it had going for it but at the end of the day it was the 6 wheeler Range Rovers that the customers ( rightly ) wanted and if they needed something with more go than that they went for the Ramcharger similar to these,with the 440 ( 7.2 litre ) in our case.

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Unfortunately the Stonefield couldn’t compete with either option on an overall basis.Which is why the thing brought it’s manufacturer down.

erfguy:
I worked in the development department at the Stonefield plant in ■■■■■■■ and was often out on the road with the trucks Bagshot & chobham were regular destinations as the MOD were testing them on cross country and endurance tracks in fact they had just passed their 0521 trials when the SDA decided not to put any more money in. Jim Mckelvie had assembled a formidable team in engineering and sales and the truck was destined to be a winner after all it was wiping the board clean at the annual POLICE RALLY where all the cross country vehicles took part. Carryfast your Range Rover hadny a hope in hell in the acceleration stakes against a Stoney with the 5ltr Chrysler. Eddie.

Not only that erfguy, the Stoney was designed to be easy to repair and used well proven drivetrains, just a pity the most corrupt government in British history seen the need to dispose of the business to one of their cronies ie that Asian Ugandan Rat who ran Gomba, By all accounts there were experienced vehicle builders interested in Stonefield but were overlooked . George Foulkes MP asked a lot of questions at the time about the disposal of Stonefield of which Norman Tebbit refused to answer. Jim McKelvie would never have backed a non-runner, was not in the mans nature

Evening Gentlemen, I am tired, long day, and old age…and a need for my Bollinger, so I will be brief…

Some that has been written about Jim McKelvie, and Volvo is only “broadly” correct. But the gist is OK…

Now in another life, post lorries, I have some small experience of the “off road” market, both UK, and Global. Both as being involved, and buying, selling, hiring, operating, many of the available products.

The observations posted regarding the “plus” side of Stonefield are correct. As are the observations regarding the “political” disposal of the product/company. A total disgrace, (similar to Paul Channon`s disposal of Leyland to DAF), I often wonder why he, nor Tebbit, nor Thatcher, ever responded personally to my logical, and reasoned questions regarding this disposal, (based on accurate analysis of published accounts), but of course we get the politicians we deserve…or vote in…30% of us, (or we, to Black Country folk)!!!

In specification, in off road ability, in payload capacity, the Stonefield was head and shoulders above everything else on the market,except the 8x8 MWG Esarco platform. To suggest that the 6 wheeled Range Rover conversion was in the same league…well it shows a distinct lack of understanding of the product and market, and the WestMid engineered, (the late Alan Murrel) GMC conversion, was just that, a conversion…cheap, big power…but oh so crude!!!

The Stonefield was a “real” product…destroyed by political idiots who never ever understood, the market, the product, but could enjoy a good menu, and hospitality…

Cheerio for now.

Saviem:
Evening Gentlemen, I am tired, long day, and old age…and a need for my Bollinger, so I will be brief…

Some that has been written about Jim McKelvie, and Volvo is only “broadly” correct. But the gist is OK…

Now in another life, post lorries, I have some small experience of the “off road” market, both UK, and Global. Both as being involved, and buying, selling, hiring, operating, many of the available products.

The observations posted regarding the “plus” side of Stonefield are correct. As are the observations regarding the “political” disposal of the product/company. A total disgrace, (similar to Paul Channon`s disposal of Leyland to DAF), I often wonder why he, nor Tebbit, nor Thatcher, ever responded personally to my logical, and reasoned questions regarding this disposal, (based on accurate analysis of published accounts), but of course we get the politicians we deserve…or vote in…30% of us, (or we, to Black Country folk)!!!

In specification, in off road ability, in payload capacity, the Stonefield was head and shoulders above everything else on the market,except the 8x8 MWG Esarco platform. To suggest that the 6 wheeled Range Rover conversion was in the same league…well it shows a distinct lack of understanding of the product and market, and the WestMid engineered, (the late Alan Murrel) GMC conversion, was just that, a conversion…cheap, big power…but oh so crude!!!

The Stonefield was a “real” product…destroyed by political idiots who never ever understood, the market, the product, but could enjoy a good menu, and hospitality…

Cheerio for now.

From an emergency vehicle point of view at least the two types of options which I’ve described certainly made a better name for themselves regardless of the arguable relatively small payload difference,between the 6 wheeler Range Rover v the Stonefield.Which isn’t surprising being that in the case of RIV’s it’s all about getting to the incident in sufficient time with ‘enough’ fire fighting capacity to start operations,while the larger appliances are on route which from experience can be surprisingly very close in performance to RIV’s anyway.As I’ve said in the case of the Range Rover that overall combination,of ‘sufficient’ power to weight and off road performance remembering the Range Rover’s coil spring suspension ( not to mention 6x6 conversion capability ) v the Stonefield’s leaf springs,obviously proved to be more attractive to customers than that provided by the Stonefield.

While in the case of the US competition,at least in the form of the Ramcharger/Power Wagon chassis,I know from experience that it’s ‘cheap big power’ outweighed any arguable ‘crudeness’ in it’s chassis design.Personally I think the Dodge was one of the most capable RIV chassis ever made,which like the 6 wheeler Range Rover,seems to have been agreed by numerous customers around the world.Unlike the Stonefield.

4wdonline.com/Stonefield/Stonefield.html

lr-mad.co.uk/en/tacr-2-and-commando

The Stonefield could also be specced as a mobile drill rig for carrying out mineral boring or site investigation work such was the strength of its chassis. It is also notable in its use of automatic transmission was years ahead of its time after all nowadays when did you last see a luxury 4x4 with a manual transmission? Stonefield was another example of a missed opportunity made all the worse by the fact the product was such high quality. As I said earlier it would not have been like Mr McKelvie not to have backed a winner

I remember the the Stonefield, and at the time thinking, bit of a funny name for a 4x4 and 6x4, reading about it back then, it was quite a machine, unique and very capable for what it was designed for , primarily aimed at military and rough terrain service, streets ahead of anything else . This video is worth a watch, not the best quality but stick with it through the 17 minutes youtube.com/watch?v=OwCPxOf6CAM
Oily

Oily there was a Stonefield parked in the industrial estate in Muir of Ord it was in what looked like a public works contractors yard and was there for a number of years I used to holiday in Inverness and having worked for Stonefield I used to nip round to see if it was still there. Eddie.

erfguy:
I worked in the development department at the Stonefield plant in ■■■■■■■■ Jim Mckelvie had assembled a formidable team in engineering…
Hello Eddie,
Norman sends his regards :wink:

To anyone else, the following might be of some interest. I can post some more Stonefield stuff if anyone’s interested, Tone.

Hello tony24713

The memory is getting worse with every passing year who is Norman. Eddie.

erfguy:
Hello tony24713

The memory is getting worse with every passing year who is Norman. Eddie.

Hello Eddie,
Norman Watson, the man who did the design work on the Stonefield as well as work for Volvo on the double drive rear bogie and the double deck bus chassis. Tony.

Oh aye I saw him once in the factory, thanks tony. Eddie.

During my time in the Royal Artillery the Stonefield was on trial as a Gun Tractor (as in the pic below from Tony’s brochure) we were looking for something bigger than the 3/4 Ton Landrover that had towed previous Guns to the one in the photo which was a 105mm Light Gun and came into service early 80’s. In the end the 1 Tonne Landrover was chosen which was a fine machine and never let us down apart from having a lack of stowage space, something the Stonefield would also suffer from as it was pretty similar in size. I did try to convince the powers above to try the system used in the Second War (pic below) by having a trailer between Tractor and Gun to act as the Limber and take some of the kit we piled into these vehicles (the word overloaded didn’t come into it) but it fell on deaf ears. We basically needed a bigger vehicle, the same Gun is still used today and pulled by some Foreign Johnny called a Pinzgauer.

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