Carryfast:
muckles:
Carryfast:
I thought we were discussing the question of just how moderate are the ‘moderate’ UK Islamic community,that was taking place between Winseer, TiredAndEmotional and Dork Lard ?.
In which you said you don’t trust ‘opinion polls’ regarding that question.
While my point was,that the fact that we don’t see any large scale organised protests,against the radical Islamic Saudi Wahabbist and Iranian Islamic revolutionary regimes and for their reform along the lines of pre Islamic revolutionary Iran,by the UK Muslim community,is a good guide as to just how ‘moderate’ that community actually is.
Or for that matter the question of the black lives matter type agenda and its implications,that seems to be connected to the example raised by the OP.
Exactly I said “I don’t trust opinion polls,” which has bugger all to do with the tirade I got from you. I prefer to see some evidence backing up the figures when somebody posts them, but then this is the internet, a statistic will be banded about from forum to social media without any scrutiny and in the end taken as the truth.
Apparently 73.6% of statistics are made up.
73.6% of all Statistics are Made Up | by Mark Suster | Both Sides of the Table
More like you don’t like what I said because it doesn’t actually fit your bs script of referring to dodgy news and statistics,which is actually more if not all an issue related to the pro immigration and Islamic appeasement agenda anyway,but just relied on facts.Related to the obvious tacit support,of the extremist radical Iranian Islamic and/or Saudi Wahabbist regimes,by the Islamic community here as a whole.Which is why we’ve got the Islamification of Europe with people walking around in Saudi or Iranian imposed dress code on our streets for just one example.
In addition to the ‘black lives matter’ type agenda all being part of the Afro self determination agenda that brought people like zb Mugabe to power and destroyed Rhodesia in the process. 
Oh look another tirade,
So you just assume my opinion, without evidence, I just want to check out what I’m being told as fact regardless of source or agenda, but I assume you believe anything you read as long as it fits the views you already hold.
What with Winseers tin foil hat and your blinkers you must look a right pair when you’re out in the Allegro.
muckles:
I just want to check out what I’m being told as fact regardless of source or agenda, but I assume you believe anything you read as long as it fits the views you already hold.
What with Winseers tin foil hat and your blinkers you must look a right pair when you’re out in the Allegro.
So you’re saying that it’s bigoted and blinkered,to firstly say that the Saudi Wahabbist and Iranian Islamic revolutionary regimes and societies at least are a bunch of typically backward savage radical Islamic retards.All having the tacit support of the immigrant Islamic community here,in addition to an agenda of appeasement by western governments.
Or secondly that Mugabe destroyed Rhodesia,based on a similar selectively reverse racist,Afro self determination agenda,that the Afro community is also now trying to impose here and in the US ?.
If so it’s clear enough who’s following a blinkered agenda of appeasement based on Socialist/establishment inspired bs and misinformation and it ain’t me.
As for Winseer he can speak for himself but if I’ve read it right I’d guess that TiredAndEmotional was closer to my view than Winseer.
Carryfast:
muckles:
I just want to check out what I’m being told as fact regardless of source or agenda, but I assume you believe anything you read as long as it fits the views you already hold.
What with Winseers tin foil hat and your blinkers you must look a right pair when you’re out in the Allegro.
So you’re saying that it’s bigoted and blinkered,to firstly say that the Saudi Wahabbist and Iranian Islamic revolutionary regimes and societies at least are a bunch of typically backward savage radical Islamic retards.All having the tacit support of the immigrant Islamic community here,in addition to an agenda of appeasement by western governments.
Or secondly that Mugabe destroyed Rhodesia,based on a similar selectively reverse racist,Afro self determination agenda,that the Afro community is also now trying to impose here and in the US ?.
If so it’s clear enough who’s following a blinkered agenda of appeasement based on Socialist/establishment inspired bs and misinformation and it ain’t me.
As for Winseer he can speak for himself but if I’ve read it right I’d guess that TiredAndEmotional was closer to my view than Winseer.
Saudi whatyoumacallits and Iranian revolutionary, or anybody else have nothing to do with my point, except in your mind.
I think it’s blinkered to take statistics on face value merely because you agree with their findings, I thought you were also somebody who didn’t take what they were told as fact without checking, but obviously you are as blinkered as those who believe everything they see on the BBC without question.
muckles:
Carryfast:
So you’re saying that it’s bigoted and blinkered,to firstly say that the Saudi Wahabbist and Iranian Islamic revolutionary regimes and societies at least are a bunch of typically backward savage radical Islamic retards.All having the tacit support of the immigrant Islamic community here,in addition to an agenda of appeasement by western governments.
Or secondly that Mugabe destroyed Rhodesia,based on a similar selectively reverse racist,Afro self determination agenda,that the Afro community is also now trying to impose here and in the US ?.
If so it’s clear enough who’s following a blinkered agenda of appeasement based on Socialist/establishment inspired bs and misinformation and it ain’t me.
As for Winseer he can speak for himself but if I’ve read it right I’d guess that TiredAndEmotional was closer to my view than Winseer.
Saudi whatyoumacallits and Iranian revolutionary, or anybody else have nothing to do with my point, except in your mind.
I think it’s blinkered to take statistics on face value merely because you agree with their findings, I thought you were also somebody who didn’t take what they were told as fact without checking, but obviously you are as blinkered as those who believe everything they see on the BBC without question.
The ‘point’ that Winseer and TiredAndEmotional were making is the question as to how ‘moderate’ the UK Muslim community actually is ?.
In which case I’m open minded enough to be interested in reading any confirmed information anywhere which would suggest that any of the UK Muslim community has boycotted the Haj,on the grounds that Saudi Wahabbist/Salafist Islam is a corruption of their faith and culture for one example of a ‘moderate’ backlash.Or for that matter any confirmed large scale support for reform of Islam in general along the lines of pre Islamic Revolutionary Iran.
As opposed to calls for Sharia law and radical Islamic dress code being enforced on our streets.
Carryfast:
muckles:
Carryfast:
So you’re saying that it’s bigoted and blinkered,to firstly say that the Saudi Wahabbist and Iranian Islamic revolutionary regimes and societies at least are a bunch of typically backward savage radical Islamic retards.All having the tacit support of the immigrant Islamic community here,in addition to an agenda of appeasement by western governments.
Or secondly that Mugabe destroyed Rhodesia,based on a similar selectively reverse racist,Afro self determination agenda,that the Afro community is also now trying to impose here and in the US ?.
If so it’s clear enough who’s following a blinkered agenda of appeasement based on Socialist/establishment inspired bs and misinformation and it ain’t me.
As for Winseer he can speak for himself but if I’ve read it right I’d guess that TiredAndEmotional was closer to my view than Winseer.
Saudi whatyoumacallits and Iranian revolutionary, or anybody else have nothing to do with my point, except in your mind.
I think it’s blinkered to take statistics on face value merely because you agree with their findings, I thought you were also somebody who didn’t take what they were told as fact without checking, but obviously you are as blinkered as those who believe everything they see on the BBC without question.
The ‘point’ that Winseer and TiredAndEmotional were making is the question as to how ‘moderate’ the UK Muslim community actually is ?.
In which case I’m open minded enough to be interested in reading any confirmed information anywhere which would suggest that any of the UK Muslim community has boycotted the Haj,on the grounds that Saudi Wahabbist/Salafist Islam is a corruption of their faith and culture for one example of a ‘moderate’ backlash.Or for that matter any confirmed large scale support for reform of Islam in general along the lines of pre Islamic Revolutionary Iran.
As opposed to calls for Sharia law and radical Islamic dress code being enforced on our streets.
Well that’s good and I assume if somebody posted a statistic trying to prove that, you, like me, would expect them to provide links to the data so it could be scrutinised?
muckles:
Carryfast:
The ‘point’ that Winseer and TiredAndEmotional were making is the question as to how ‘moderate’ the UK Muslim community actually is ?.
In which case I’m open minded enough to be interested in reading any confirmed information anywhere which would suggest that any of the UK Muslim community has boycotted the Haj,on the grounds that Saudi Wahabbist/Salafist Islam is a corruption of their faith and culture for one example of a ‘moderate’ backlash.Or for that matter any confirmed large scale support for reform of Islam in general along the lines of pre Islamic Revolutionary Iran.
As opposed to calls for Sharia law and radical Islamic dress code being enforced on our streets.
Well that’s good and I assume if somebody posted a statistic trying to prove that, you, like me, would expect them to provide links to the data so it could be scrutinised?
Just a clear statement,read out in person by the heads of the Muslim Council of Britain,that they advise and support the aim of UK Muslims following the ideals of pre Islamic Revolutionary Iran and to boycott the Haj on the grounds of similar reform of the Iranian and Saudi Islamic regimes,along similar lines,would be a good start.
Also a statement read out by UK government that present immigration policy is no longer fit for purpose in terms of numbers and the resulting threat created by same regarding excessively large immigrant communities going for self determination,in whatever form,in the medium to longer term.