TiredAndEmotional:
There was an opinion poll after the twin towers slaughter…80% of muslims expressed support for the murder of thousands of innocent people? I’ll live peacefully side by side with anyone regardless of colour, religion or ■■■■■■■■■ if I feel that it is reciprocated. I don’t feel that it is with muslims. Don’t underestimate the power of the vocal and violent minority (if it is a minority now) to mobilise the less virulent. These people are bringing civil war to Europe and with the help of the Christmas turkeys in the EU…
Do you really believe that all muslims were polled & that 80% of them expressed support?
You are a part of the problem.
Of course not all muslims were polled but 80% of those who were polled supported that despicable act. I wish things were different in the world but they’re not and I am not blind to that. You on the other hand take your love for your fellow man so seriously you refuse to see the real threat posed to our way of life. You, are part of the problem.
all very well,but I don’t think his boss will say fair play to you,now i’ll just pay for the damage to my vehicle and don’t you worry about it if my insurance premiums go up.
truckman020:
all very well,but I don’t think his boss will say fair play to you,now i’ll just pay for the damage to my vehicle and don’t you worry about it if my insurance premiums go up.
TiredAndEmotional:
There was an opinion poll after the twin towers slaughter…80% of muslims expressed support for the murder of thousands of innocent people? I’ll live peacefully side by side with anyone regardless of colour, religion or ■■■■■■■■■ if I feel that it is reciprocated. I don’t feel that it is with muslims. Don’t underestimate the power of the vocal and violent minority (if it is a minority now) to mobilise the less virulent. These people are bringing civil war to Europe and with the help of the Christmas turkeys in the EU…
Do you really believe that all muslims were polled & that 80% of them expressed support?
You are a part of the problem.
Of course not all muslims were polled but 80% of those who were polled supported that despicable act.
I always treat polls with a pinch of salt, until I see the raw data and not just the headline, which can be easily spun to fit the agenda of those reporting it, so I would be interested in a link to the poll you’ve got your figures from.
The only ones I can find carried out immediately after 911, were that many Muslims didn’t believe is was an attack carried out by Arabs.
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There was an opinion poll after the twin towers slaughter…80% of muslims expressed support for the murder of thousands of innocent people? I’ll live peacefully side by side with anyone regardless of colour, religion or ■■■■■■■■■ if I feel that it is reciprocated. I don’t feel that it is with muslims. Don’t underestimate the power of the vocal and violent minority (if it is a minority now) to mobilise the less virulent. These people are bringing civil war to Europe and with the help of the Christmas turkeys in the EU…
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80% of a sample of Muslims you mean. A sample large enough to be statisticaly representative of the entire Muslim population? Probably not, if any such survey was even carried out. Impress me with a url to that survey or I’ll assume it’s ■■■■■■■■.
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Social media wasn’t as big back in 2001 than it is now - but people of the day (probably yourself included) DO remember seeing this sort of thing on their news screens…
Don’t knock this because it’s “■■■ News” btw.
Back then, even CNN were not supporting this type of “Jubilant Muslim”…
Of course, perhaps the “best” opinion poll data to use - is that compiled by the muslim community itself. This means it might be played down, but the opening argument is made on this webpage that “even if only 1% of Muslims are terrorists - that’s over 15m people, and hardly an insignificant number”.
I suggest that the “Horse’s mouth” therefore is a better source of data on such issues. We already know we can’t take non-Muslim anti-Muslim sentiment very seriously, because it’s simply going to be bigged-up all the time - right?
Winseer:
“even if only 1% of Muslims are terrorists - that’s over 15m people, and hardly an insignificant number”.
I’ve always been very suspiscious of who exactly these terrorists are.
I know where my local MP lives, I’m fairly sure that I could knock on the door on a particular day & he would answer it in person. How come all these terrorists don’t know this . . . & seemingly appear . . . across the world . . . to have never known this.
With very few & notable exceptions, these terrorists seem only to target Mr & Mrs J Bloggs & their 2.4 children.
I can only guess this, but if I was an angry young man seeking to die for the cause, I’d root out & attack what I percieve to be the real enemy !
And another thing, why aren’t there any modern day Robin Hood’s ? Where have all the good terrorists gone ? The one’s fighting the evil regime ? Or do we call them something else?
The most truth that you will ever hear is that one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter, but you’re too bloody stupid to think that you might actually be on the side of the bad guys.
TiredAndEmotional:
There was an opinion poll after the twin towers slaughter…80% of muslims expressed support for the murder of thousands of innocent people? I’ll live peacefully side by side with anyone regardless of colour, religion or ■■■■■■■■■ if I feel that it is reciprocated. I don’t feel that it is with muslims. Don’t underestimate the power of the vocal and violent minority (if it is a minority now) to mobilise the less virulent. These people are bringing civil war to Europe and with the help of the Christmas turkeys in the EU…
Do you really believe that all muslims were polled & that 80% of them expressed support?
You are a part of the problem.
Of course not all muslims were polled but 80% of those who were polled supported that despicable act. I wish things were different in the world but they’re not and I am not blind to that. You on the other hand take your love for your fellow man so seriously you refuse to see the real threat posed to our way of life. You, are part of the problem.
If 10 Muslims were polled and 8 supported terrorism. That would NOT be a big enough sample to apply that result to all Muslims. The data is useless except to grab headlines for idiots who soak it up without thinking.
You’re seeing Muslim where you should just see terrorist. The religion they have hijacked and twisted is just the excuse, the scape goat that allows them to do terrible things. But don’t confuse the two.
I want to see every terrorist dead, I want to see every person who wishes harm against me and my fellow country men dead. But I do NOT want to see every Muslim dead. Muslims are not the enemy, terrorists are.
Enoch Powell was a very controversial politician, he quoted the term “immigrants”, his speech the Rivers of blood are certainly true. He would also refer to our modern day Immigrants from the EE region now in the same light as his initial terminology of Immigrant. The EE drivers on here seem to be highly regarded by most. I personally think that they are bad for our industry and are only aiding in keeping wages and conditions poor. Roll on Brexit I say, I also say I am not by any means a racist. I am a believer in my own country and a proud Englishman. I believe that immigration should be better controlled and not have an open border with free movement of people. This is especially true when we refer to our Muslim community as we don not know who we are allowing into our country with no security checks.
muckles:
I always treat polls with a pinch of salt
Feel free to provide evidence of the last time the Muslim community as a whole here,let alone around the world,called the Saudis a bunch of head chopping, women oppressing savages who are reading the Koran all wrong.Or that the Iranian Islamic revolutionary regime,or that which applies in Pakistan,are both another load of extremist nutters who in no way represent the Islamic culture.As opposed to the Sha’s pre revolutionary moderate ideal of how an Islamic country should proceed and which they want to see returned.That’s the only poll that matters here.
Or for that matter that the Afro community here and in the USA recognises the supremacy of the indigenous/ethnic European governments and rule there.In just the same way that it expects the ethnic European community in the former Rhodesia and South Africa to recognise the supremacy of the indigenous ethnic African governments there.
Get real.It’s clear that we’re being subjected to an agenda of reverse racist bs by an alliance of those who see a cheap labour advantage in it and Socialists with an irrational self loathing of their own ethnic group.
UKtramp:
Academically speaking, you would not start a new sentence with and, it is subjective but is condemned by many, however you would not write a legal document… Personally I would take great offence by receiving any document written in this fashion. The nodding donkey knows better and was purely a mistake on his behalf by ways of a lapse of concentration in his excitement. I expect greater styles of writing from such a poster. In this instance no offence was taken and indeed no animals where harmed by this oversee on his part.
Carryfast:
It’s you who seems to have missed the point that it’s possible to agree with the kkk’s ideals ( the wrong side won the US Civil war which itself was never about slavery but segregation and repatriation based on the fact that the different ethnic groups live in different parts of the world for a reason and anti Federalism based on the fact that a democratic mandate in zb Michican or Massachusetts etc has no right to impose it’s rule over the mandate in North Carolina or Alabama etc ).Bearing in mind that more than 90% of those who fought for the CSA in the civil war weren’t slave owners.
While not agreeing with their methods.
It’s then just a matter of sides and viewpoints.With the ( peaceful ) worship of Islam by definition meaning viewing non Muslims as Infidels or worse in the case of Atheists and Apostates.In addition to submitting to the will of Allah which is made clear enough to them in the Koran.The savage despotic Wahabbist Saudi Sharia regime and its obvious plan of insidious invasion and spread into Europe being the logical conclusion of all that.While the Afro community going for its own right to self determination in whatever form,while pretending it wants 'integration,and the ‘white’ community going for white flight being another.
IE spare us more failed Socialist propaganda that the world must all integrate into one big happy family because we can all see it predictably ain’t working.
So, you don’t think that that the whole shebang is down to the Zionists then?
Not unless you’re saying that Saudi Arabia and Islamic Revolutionary Iran and Pakistan are actually majority immigrant Jewish populations run by Jewish governments in accordance with Jewish culture.Or that ‘White Flight’ and ‘Black Lives Matter’ here and in the US and the handover of Rhodesia and South Africa back to Indigenous ethnic government rule,is actually all a Jewish thing and that Mugabe and Mandela were/are actually Israeli nationals masquerading as Africans just like all their followers.
While I though that ‘Zionist’ just means someone who ( rightly ) believes that Israel is the Jewish homeland.
robroy:
It’s a pity a couple of those twunts didn’t end up under his wheels.
What are they protesting about?
Answer…A piece of [zb] that swallowed his stash of crack that he was dealing and died during his arrest because of it…says it all doesn’t it.
We need to stop [zb] ing about, this country is full of [zb] and needs cleansed, starting with the Liberal ‘right on’ type lefties who brought all this on us in the first place.
+1
This tweet (Which I’ve anonymised) sums it up well enough…
UKtramp:
Academically speaking, you would not start a new sentence with and, it is subjective but is condemned by many, however you would not write a legal document… Personally I would take great offence by receiving any document written in this fashion. The nodding donkey knows better and was purely a mistake on his behalf by ways of a lapse of concentration in his excitement. I expect greater styles of writing from such a poster. In this instance no offence was taken and indeed no animals where harmed by this oversee on his part.
muckles:
I always treat polls with a pinch of salt
Feel free to provide evidence of the last time the Muslim community as a whole here,let alone around the world,called the Saudis a bunch of head chopping, women oppressing savages who are reading the Koran all wrong.
Did I say I only treat polls that say Muslims are all blood thirsty buggers with a pinch of salt?
No I’m sceptical about what is presented to me as genuine news, whatever it’s political, religious or ideological leanings of those presenting it is, so I look for the origins of the information.
I would have thought you did the same, but obviously you read stuff and take it at face value as long as it agrees with your point of view.
muckles:
Did I say I only treat polls that say Muslims are all blood thirsty buggers with a pinch of salt?
No I’m sceptical about what is presented to me as genuine news, whatever it’s political, religious or ideological leanings of those presenting it is, so I look for the origins of the information.
I would have thought you did the same, but obviously you read stuff and take it at face value as long as it agrees with your point of view.
The idea that Saudi,Iran and Pakistan are all backward,savage,extremist,societies and regimes and that the supposed moderate Muslim community here,or our appeaser government,doesn’t say a word against them,including boycotting the Haj and calling on them for reform along the lines of pre Islamic revolutionary Iran,is fact.Not fake news or so called Zionist conspiracy.
While ‘white flight’,‘black lives matter’ ( black policing for black communities ),and the fate of the Rhodesian and South African ethnic European run regimes,are all ‘factual’ examples of the ‘fact’ that ethnic integration doesn’t work.
muckles:
Did I say I only treat polls that say Muslims are all blood thirsty buggers with a pinch of salt?
No I’m sceptical about what is presented to me as genuine news, whatever it’s political, religious or ideological leanings of those presenting it is, so I look for the origins of the information.
I would have thought you did the same, but obviously you read stuff and take it at face value as long as it agrees with your point of view.
The idea that Saudi,Iran and Pakistan are all backward,savage,extremist,societies and regimes and that the supposed moderate Muslim community here,or our appeaser government,doesn’t say a word against them,including boycotting the Haj and calling on them for reform along the lines of pre Islamic revolutionary Iran,is fact.Not fake news or so called Zionist conspiracy.
While ‘white flight’,‘black lives matter’ ( black policing for black communities ),and the fate of the Rhodesian and South African ethnic European run regimes,are all ‘factual’ examples of the ‘fact’ that ethnic integration doesn’t work.
How the [zb] is any of that relevant to me saying I take opinion polls with a pinch of salt and I don’t take news reports at face value.
muckles:
How the [zb] is any of that relevant to me saying I take opinion polls with a pinch of salt and I don’t take news reports at face value.
I thought we were discussing the question of just how moderate are the ‘moderate’ UK Islamic community,that was taking place between Winseer, TiredAndEmotional and Dork Lard ?.
In which you said you don’t trust ‘opinion polls’ regarding that question.
While my point was,that the fact that we don’t see any large scale organised protests,against the radical Islamic Saudi Wahabbist and Iranian Islamic revolutionary regimes and for their reform along the lines of pre Islamic revolutionary Iran,by the UK Muslim community,is a good guide as to just how ‘moderate’ that community actually is.
Or for that matter the question of the black lives matter type agenda and its implications,that seems to be connected to the example raised by the OP.
muckles:
How the [zb] is any of that relevant to me saying I take opinion polls with a pinch of salt and I don’t take news reports at face value.
I thought we were discussing the question of just how moderate are the ‘moderate’ UK Islamic community,that was taking place between Winseer, TiredAndEmotional and Dork Lard ?.
In which you said you don’t trust ‘opinion polls’ regarding that question.
While my point was,that the fact that we don’t see any large scale organised protests,against the radical Islamic Saudi Wahabbist and Iranian Islamic revolutionary regimes and for their reform along the lines of pre Islamic revolutionary Iran,by the UK Muslim community,is a good guide as to just how ‘moderate’ that community actually is.
Or for that matter the question of the black lives matter type agenda and its implications,that seems to be connected to the example raised by the OP.
Exactly I said “I don’t trust opinion polls,” which has bugger all to do with the tirade I got from you. I prefer to see some evidence backing up the figures when somebody posts them, but then this is the internet, a statistic will be banded about from forum to social media without any scrutiny and in the end taken as the truth.
Carryfast:
I thought we were discussing the question of just how moderate are the ‘moderate’ UK Islamic community,that was taking place between Winseer, TiredAndEmotional and Dork Lard ?.
In which you said you don’t trust ‘opinion polls’ regarding that question.
While my point was,that the fact that we don’t see any large scale organised protests,against the radical Islamic Saudi Wahabbist and Iranian Islamic revolutionary regimes and for their reform along the lines of pre Islamic revolutionary Iran,by the UK Muslim community,is a good guide as to just how ‘moderate’ that community actually is.
Or for that matter the question of the black lives matter type agenda and its implications,that seems to be connected to the example raised by the OP.
Exactly I said “I don’t trust opinion polls,” which has bugger all to do with the tirade I got from you. I prefer to see some evidence backing up the figures when somebody posts them, but then this is the internet, a statistic will be banded about from forum to social media without any scrutiny and in the end taken as the truth.
More like you don’t like what I said because it doesn’t actually fit your bs script of referring to dodgy news and statistics,which is actually more if not all an issue related to the pro immigration and Islamic appeasement agenda anyway,but just relied on facts.Related to the obvious tacit support,of the extremist radical Iranian Islamic and/or Saudi Wahabbist regimes,by the Islamic community here as a whole.Which is why we’ve got the Islamification of Europe with people walking around in Saudi or Iranian imposed dress code on our streets for just one example.
In addition to the ‘black lives matter’ type agenda all being part of the Afro self determination agenda that brought people like zb Mugabe to power and destroyed Rhodesia in the process.
Well spotted