It has been reported in the link shown below and also posted
on a German Trucking site ,that I use,
The Stadler Company has been in the news before
and it seems they have been stopped and checked out
by the Italian official’s who belive that a offence has been
committed ,20 vehicles have been IMPOUNDED according
to the reports posted in the links shown below.
,
The trucks were on the road in Italy,but the drivers who were
Romanian , were not in possession of a valid certificate which
allows them to work as Drivers for a Czech registered transport
company, were the trucks of the company were based,
It seems a Romanian Driver is even cheaper than a CZECH
driver, The vehicles in Question will/ can be held for 3 months
and may then be returned to the owners, It seems this firm has
800 drivers from Romania and another 200 from the former
Yugoslavia ,they have around 1050vehicles 700 in Czech
200 in Poland,100 in Romania ,
The firm has been caught out by the Italian official’s
and it was asked WHY was it not noticed by the
AUSTRIAN enforcement official’s■■?
links–LOOK-THROUGH-HERE
All you have to do is click on where it says translate this page,
YES the goggle is not perfect as a translator but if does get the main part
over ,and shows the main point in its translation,in a language that
we all under stand
Not surprise to hear about that! An Austrian Haulier GST Stadler are biggest company in Europe, they use Polish, Czech, Romanian, Belgian regs trucks aslo they got over thousand trailers with dutch regs plate on.
also read on Polish truck forum, GST Stadler use Romanian drivers and put on Polish & Czech trucks!
I am surprise that Italian police have power to right impound Stadler trucks!
What about Austrian or German Polize? must be something with corruption between the police and Mr Stadler?
I know many of European Hauliers use different nationalities drivers put on different countries trucks regs plate out there!
Willi Betz (German) - Polish trucks with Bulgarian drivers
Vos Logistic (Dutch) - Polish & Slovakian trucks with Romanian drivers
LKW Augustin (Austrian) - Czech trucks with Bulgarian drivers
but i don’t know if they have proper paperwork like work permit?
youtube.com/watch?v=YyuQplYsTQo
Ok… now this clip may give you cheers up - found a video clip of Gst Stalder drivers - What a proper truck driver tramping! what a colourful characters than our famous telly star British truck driver - Mo (Stobart)
Should Italian authorities be worried that a Romanian driver does not have Czech working permit?
Don’t think so, none of their business.
Do Romanians need special permit to drive in Italy?
Don’t know.
Should they impound lorry because driver does not have third coutnry working permit or authority to drive the vehicle of his employer?
Don’t think so.
IMHO, there’s an Italian haulier that lost a job to Stadler, a manager of the co. has a cousin at appropriate position of police and…
Need to say, I’m no fan of Stadler, one of those dodgy companies exploiting drivers. When Czechs and Poles realized what the conditions were they promptly left; Stadler then went on to employ RO and BG drivers as well as “new Romanians” (Moldavians that were granted RO passport courtesy of a new law).
I believe that he has not fulfilled certain conditions that have been laid down by the EU and this is why, if you look he has taken on the labour from that land where the wages are low , this firm was done before ,If you talk to Austrian drivers you will find that many firms have flagged out as the costs are lower and so pushing many drivers to take lower wages just to get a job in many cases Unless they have found a good firm to work for,
@wheelnut, in the reports they state that the drivers did not have a work permit
this could also mean perhaps a contract of employment or it may be that Czech
Government issues a visa/ permit that they are registered in Czech as drivers
workers, and if not they are then breaking the law,
In spain you must be able to prove you work for the truck owner, usually with contract of employment, so that you are not earning “black money” and this law is an EU law so as far as;
HomoFaber:
Should Italian authorities be worried that a Romanian driver does not have Czech working permit?
Don’t think so, none of their business.
it is their business, and also Romania and Bulgaria were the only 2 countries from the recent “accesion states” whose citizens weren’t allowed to work in all of EU freely like poles and slovaks. a person from RO or BG cannot work as freely as others yet.
Wheel Nut:
But Austria have been a law unto themselves for many years and have been amongst the biggest rate cutters in transport.
From Gebruider Weiss, LKW Walter and LKW Augustin, Fixemer etc, seems like the Alpine Turks are still turning a blind eye to their own failings
oh yes, any driver who was taken directed to “autobahn kontrolpunkt” together with all vehicles >7.5t could witness Austrian lorries being waved through and all foreign ones getting checked.
Their experience with “free workforce movement” goes back to 1970s when they founded joint-venture with Hungarocamion, Peklar Transporte Wien. Or when they started to issue working permit to Yugos with no questions asked.
Anyway, Romanians do not need any working permit in CZ; all the CZ employer has to do when emplying somebody from another EU country is to send a form to local Labour Office.
welshboy: don’t know about Spain and contract of employment being required there, but have the Germans or Italians or whoever else been ever interested in legality of your employment in Spain? That’s something between you and Spanish authorities, me and the UK authorities, Romanian StadlerCZ drivers and CZ authorities.
And just a note, not all countries opened their job markets to all new states that joined in 2004 like UK, most opted for a transition period. Now, that ROs and BGs need a working permit in the UK and other countries, they don’t need one in CZ or SK. The EU still only wants to be one big superstate with rules same for all everywhere…
HomoFaber:
welshboy: don’t know about Spain and contract of employment being required there, but have the Germans or Italians or whoever else been ever interested in legality of your employment in Spain? That’s something between you and Spanish authorities, me and the UK authorities, Romanian StadlerCZ drivers and CZ authorities
yes I’ve been in controls in france and the men in the white vans take all your details including proof that you work legally for the owner of the vehicle
HomoFaber:
And just a note, not all countries opened their job markets to all new states that joined in 2004 like UK, most opted for a transition period. Now, that ROs and BGs need a working permit in the UK and other countries, they don’t need one in CZ or SK. The EU still only wants to be one big superstate with rules same for all everywhere…
thats what i meant about RO and BG needing proof they can work in EU not just in CZ or SK, if the driver is working for an A company even though his truck is plated in CZ and he’s loading in Italy then he needs a work permit
