Is This Safe?

Hi All,

I don’t have any ADR training but… at my work place we have a warehouse that has a Hazchem sign outside…

Inside it has 200 litre drums of Red Diesel, Kerosene and a large tank ( estimate around 5 - 10 thousand litres of diesel ) for filling drums.

Around 20ft from this there are around 30, 200 litre drums full of Oxygen Candles marked Oxidizer.

Considering the contents, I thought that these shouldnt be stored in the same warehouse let alone within 20ft of each other.

Am I being overly concerned or are my fellow drivers/workers at serious risk?

Thanks

Mark

bigfathairybiker:
Hi All,

I don’t have any ADR training but… at my work place we have a warehouse that has a Hazchem sign outside…

Inside it has 200 litre drums of Red Diesel, Kerosene and a large tank ( estimate around 5 - 10 thousand litres of diesel ) for filling drums.

Around 20ft from this there are around 30, 200 litre drums full of Oxygen Candles marked Oxidizer.

Considering the contents, I thought that these shouldnt be stored in the same warehouse let alone within 20ft of each other.

Am I being overly concerned or are my fellow drivers/workers at serious risk?

Thanks

Mark

Hi Mark,
I’m afraid that your question falls outside my remit as a DGSA, because ADR (transport of dangerous goods by road Regs) have no connection with the storage of chemicals once the chemicals aren’t on a road vehicle.

In theory, IF we were considering carrying the Diesel, Kerosene and Oxygen Candles on a road vehicle, ADR would actually allow them all to be carried on the same vehicle as they don’t infringe ADR’s mixed loading rules. However, common sense does indeed tell us that you wouldn’t really want any kind of an oxidiser to come into contact with anything that can be regarded as a fuel source.

I’m sorry that I can’t give you a good answer to your question, but in an effort to be helpful, I’d suggest that you have a word with the person who is responsible for signing-off the company’s H&S policy. :smiley:

dieseldave:

bigfathairybiker:
Hi All,

I don’t have any ADR training but… at my work place we have a warehouse that has a Hazchem sign outside…

Inside it has 200 litre drums of Red Diesel, Kerosene and a large tank ( estimate around 5 - 10 thousand litres of diesel ) for filling drums.

Around 20ft from this there are around 30, 200 litre drums full of Oxygen Candles marked Oxidizer.

Considering the contents, I thought that these shouldnt be stored in the same warehouse let alone within 20ft of each other.

Am I being overly concerned or are my fellow drivers/workers at serious risk?

Thanks

Mark

Hi Mark,
I’m afraid that your question falls outside my remit as a DGSA, because ADR (transport of dangerous goods by road Regs) have no connection with the storage of chemicals once the chemicals aren’t on a road vehicle.

In theory, IF we were considering carrying the Diesel, Kerosene and Oxygen Candles on a road vehicle, ADR would actually allow them all to be carried on the same vehicle as they don’t infringe ADR’s mixed loading rules. However, common sense does indeed tell us that you wouldn’t really want any kind of an oxidiser to come into contact with anything that can be regarded as a fuel source.

I’m sorry that I can’t give you a good answer to your question, but in an effort to be helpful, I’d suggest that you have a word with the person who is responsible for signing-off the company’s H&S policy. :smiley:

I’d think that, as these items are considered safe enough to be carried together in a truck, they should be ok on a warehouse floor.
(On the grounds that a moving truck is inherently more hazardous than a building)
You point out that these candles are in drums, so presumably sealed from accidental contact with any of the liquid fuels, even if there’s a major leak.
If a fire should occur in that warehouse, you’ll know to take the standard ‘**I**mmediate **A**ction Steps’, in the event of an ADR Incident.
First I.A. , make them extremely large, extremely quick, preferably into any wind :open_mouth: :laughing:
(Yelling Fire, fire, activate any fire alarm system as you pass it)
I wouldn’t even consider attempting to fight a fire in these circumstances, unless it was VERY small.
Phone the Fire Brigade.
Phone your mates.