Is this legal?

just wondered if this would be legal-

Mon 15 hour 9 off
Tue 15 hour 9 off
Wed 15 hour 9 off
Thur 13 hour 11 off
FRI 15 HOUR… but finished for the week so started my weekly rest. As the law says you are only allowed to reduce to 9 3 times a week but how does it stand with the Friday as i have not reduced my daily rest due to not having one and starting my weekly rest. Not done this ever as yet just something i always was curious about.

thanks Danny.

nope. cos you have used up your 3 15 all ready. sorry.

be a good wage 73 hours !! :open_mouth:

No.

tango boy:
nope. cos you have used up your 3 15 all ready. sorry.

But where in the law does it say you can only do 3 15s?. The law says you can reduce to 9 hours rest 3 times between any 2 weekly rest periods. which on the example above is the case.

transportsfriend.org/hours/rest.html

I would say that it is legal ish,one of them grey areas that would need a test case. However…I would not want to do it and I would not want my planner to know that its legal (should that be the case).

DannyDoncaster:

tango boy:
nope. cos you have used up your 3 15 all ready. sorry.

But where in the law does it say you can only do 3 15s?. The law says you can reduce to 9 hours rest 3 times between any 2 weekly rest periods. which on the example above is the case.

transportsfriend.org/hours/rest.html

Yes, but on the Friday you will have reduced your rest for a fourth time, in that as you come to the end of your shift, you will not be able to say “I have had 11 hours off in the last 24”

DannyDoncaster:

tango boy:
nope. cos you have used up your 3 15 all ready. sorry.

But where in the law does it say you can only do 3 15s?. The law says you can reduce to 9 hours rest 3 times between any 2 weekly rest periods. which on the example above is the case.

transportsfriend.org/hours/rest.html

yep there is all ready a big argument on ere about having 3 hours off during a 15 hour shift. if he did this on friday would he be ok :question: he has already done 3 15 hour days so surely he can only do a 13 :question: :exclamation: :unamused:

Yes, but on the Friday you will have reduced your rest for a fourth time, in that as you come to the end of your shift, you will not be able to say “I have had 11 hours off in the last 24”
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you don’t have to say that you had 11 off in the last 24 because a weekly rest period has started from finish time Friday. you don’t finish your last shift of the week have your daily rest then start your weekly rest.

tango boy:

DannyDoncaster:

tango boy:
nope. cos you have used up your 3 15 all ready. sorry.

But where in the law does it say you can only do 3 15s?. The law says you can reduce to 9 hours rest 3 times between any 2 weekly rest periods. which on the example above is the case.

transportsfriend.org/hours/rest.html

yep there is all ready a big argument on ere about having 3 hours off during a 15 hour shift. if he did this on friday would he be ok :question: he has already done 3 15 hour days so surely he can only do a 13 :question: :exclamation: :unamused:

But like i said, no where in the law does it mention about the hours, its all about the rest period 9 hours 3 times between any 2 weekly rest periods.

Forget weekly rest…fridays 24 hour period starts from when you clock on.
In that 24 hour period,11 hours must be rest

I agree with skids its one of them who’s going to test it. I Think its legal, its a nice to know get me home on a Friday thing.

commonrail:
Forget weekly rest…fridays 24 hour period starts from when you clock on.
In that 24 hour period,11 hours must be rest

wondered when that was coming! my weekly rest has always started from booking off time of my last shift, not the end of my daily rest from my last shift.

so what your saying is if i start at 3am Friday, my weekly rest don’t start till 3am Saturday and from finishing Friday at 1800 i would need 55 hours off 11 plus my 45. that’s not right.

DannyDoncaster:

commonrail:
Forget weekly rest…fridays 24 hour period starts from when you clock on.
In that 24 hour period,11 hours must be rest

so what your saying is if i start at 3am Friday, my weekly rest don’t start till 3am Saturday and from finishing Friday at 1800 i would need 55 hours off 11 plus my 45. that’s not right.

your weekly rest starts from when you clock off friday…your daily rest is rest that is taken in the 24 hour period that starts when you clock on.
if you start at 0300 on friday…by 0300 saturday,you must have 11 hours rest.if you work till 1700 and never work again in your life…it still counts as a reduced daily rest because in your 24 hour period(0300 fri-0300 sat)you only had 10 hours rest.

but technically Friday did not have a DAILY REST because the WEEKLY REST period started

DannyDoncaster:
I agree with skids its one of them who’s going to test it.

there`s no need to test it…you will get an infringement

DannyDoncaster:
but technically Friday did not have a DAILY REST because the WEEKLY REST period started

friday does have a daily rest…friday is exactly the same as any other day

commonrail:

DannyDoncaster:
I agree with skids its one of them who’s going to test it.

there`s no need to test it…you will get an infringement

don’t see what for as i have only reduced 3 times between 2 weekly rest periods as the law says.

you have reduced 4 times…break each shift down into 24 hour periods…you will see that on 4 out of the 5 of those 24 hour periods you had less than 11 hours rest

DannyDoncaster:

commonrail:

DannyDoncaster:
I agree with skids its one of them who’s going to test it.

there`s no need to test it…you will get an infringement

don’t see what for as i have only reduced 3 times between 2 weekly rest periods as the law says.

No, you have reduced four times, the fourth time being as soon as you go over 13 hours on Friday. It doesn’t matter what you do after that, of whether you start your weekly rest, you have still had a fourth reduced rest.