If I have a pickup - enclosed bed with a Class 1 - 1.1 load in it - and am towing a box trailer with a class 1 - 1.3 load in it - are they classed separately - do I plate the pickup as 1.1 and plate the trailer as 1.3 ? or does the whole lot become 1.1 by default?
I think it is 2 separate loads as the trailer is enclosed - but need to make sure.
Thanks
Jubilee:
If I have a pickup - enclosed bed with a Class 1 - 1.1 load in it - and am towing a box trailer with a class 1 - 1.3 load in it - are they classed separately - do I plate the pickup as 1.1 and plate the trailer as 1.3 ? or does the whole lot become 1.1 by default?I think it is 2 separate loads as the trailer is enclosed - but need to make sure.
Thanks
Hi Jubilee,
I could answer this if you could give a little more info please.
What are the UN Numbers for the ‘stuff’ you wish to carry?
What is the total NEQ (NEM) for each UN number?
To get to which info is required on the placards in terms of Class, Division and Compatibility Letter, I’d need to know the compatibility group for the ‘stuff’ you wish to carry, hence me asking for the UN numbers.
Another question… which type of certification does your pick-up/trailer have. 
Surely, your DGSA should be all over this?
From the info you’ve given so far, I can tell you that ADR treats a vehicle with an attached trailer as one ‘transport unit.’
I’d understand if you prefer to do this by PM. 
I would imagine that you would plate them separately, as in an emergency the trailer can be dropped, meaning emergency responders would need to be aware of its individual hazards. Also, being vehicle plus trailer, I’d say the products are segregated enough to be plated separately in a similar way to multi-pot tanks.
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CookieMonster:
I would imagine that you would plate them separately, as in an emergency the trailer can be dropped, meaning emergency responders would need to be aware of its individual hazards. Also, being vehicle plus trailer, I’d say the products are segregated enough to be plated separately in a similar way to multi-pot tanks.Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
Hi CM,
I can see the sense and logic in what you’ve said, but ADR doesn’t see it that way though…
As I said above:
dieseldave:
From the info you’ve given so far, I can tell you that ADR treats a vehicle with an attached trailer as one ‘transport unit.’
ADR 1.2.1 says:
“Transport unit” means a motor vehicle without an attached trailer, or a combination consisting of a motor vehicle and an attached trailer;
dieseldave:
Surely, your DGSA should be all over this?
Could be like our lot. We “specialise” in ADR pallet loads and have multiple depots, but the DGSA is some independent bloke you have to ring up. No idea what happens if he’s busy or on holiday.
Even the lot down the road with 1 depot have their own DGSA onsite and employed fulltime. ADR sometimes seems to get treated as a nice little earner without responsibility.
trevHCS:
dieseldave:
Surely, your DGSA should be all over this?Could be like our lot. We “specialise” in ADR pallet loads and have multiple depots, but the DGSA is some independent bloke you have to ring up. No idea what happens if he’s busy or on holiday.
Even the lot down the road with 1 depot have their own DGSA onsite and employed fulltime. ADR sometimes seems to get treated as a nice little earner without responsibility.
Hi trevHCS,
A DGSA can be either:
Then it goes on to say that the person must hold a certificate etc.
There’s no ‘equivalent’ qualification, so the average H&S bod at a company can’t act as their DGSA unless he/she actually has a proper DGSA certificate issued by SQA after taking some notoriously difficult written exams.
The rules for DGSAs aren’t as tightly written as the rules for Transport Managers, so one DGSA can ‘cover’ multiple companies at multiple locations without restriction.
As for holiday cover, a DGSA is required to “monitor” and “advise,” so as long as those functions are covered in some way, holidays/sickness aren’t a problem.