Is there really a side-effect in the UK from the US election

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tommy t:
The think i for the life of me can’t grasp, is why are ukip helping May get ART 50 when if are the genuine opposition party they should be hoping that ART 50 is blocked , Reason being there are more ways to leave the EU not that you would think so listening to the bias MSM

IMO let them block it, then push May into using a different method to leave which would be quicker and there wouldn’t be the dithering bs over single market access, which will result in either free movement dressed up as something else, or EEA membership so we don’t really completely leave the EU or cease paying an extortionate amount to it like we do now, or both, which are not in a million years BREXIT, If you think about why is traitor May so Keen on using ART50 and why is access to the single market so important to her? we aren’t being told the ugly truth are we?

I think UKIP’s point is that the argument as it stands is between article 50 ‘but’ in an ideal world preferably circumvent it altogether.As opposed to the remainers overturning the vote completely either in favour of remain or at best EEA.With it presently being an issue of even article 50 being wiped out by the remainers.On that note it’s a reasonable bet that we can count May as a Remainer not a Leaver.Which would explain why she’s doing everything possible to help the remainers stall Brexit with the ultimate aim of taking it out completely if not EEA.As I said the key question in that case being why hasn’t Davis said use the Party whip to get a majority vote in the house to reverse the European Communities Act on the grounds that the referendum was called on the basis of the Conservative government being bound by the referendum vote.

IE the question isn’t whether we can trust May but can we trust Davis. :open_mouth: :unamused: Bearing in mind that he would have been expected to have put May on the spot to either deliver or go,long before now.

The definition of ‘deliver’ in this case preferably being reversal of the European Communities Act using the Cons parliamentary majority to do it and then leave the EU without regard to article 50.Farage obviously being powerless in that regard.

While a Trump win would obviously make all that much easier than a Clinton one in not being ideologically opposed to secession within Europe nor the idea of our government working for our National interest and not the EU’s.On that note it would probably be fair to say that a Trump win would increase Farage’s chances of over coming May’s obvious agenda massively.While a Clinton one would be vice versa. :bulb:

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Well my pension and ISA both of which are stock linked will both be down today. Thanks my demograph in the USA [emoji33]

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OVLOV JAY:

eagerbeaver:
The pound will fly up against the dollar if Trump gets in, Wall Street will have a real wobble.

Yep. And it proves that Trump getting in would be great for this country, but that’s not what the remoaners want, that’s a real fly in the ointment. So they would rather see us hit to save their own face

yes pal. :grimacing: wonder if the REMOANERS want a second referendum now. :laughing: funny as ZB! ZBZBZBZBZBZB I’m ZB glad he won. :sunglasses:

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I foresee the wee haggis-eating fish head making a lot of noise about the Western Seaboard seceeding from the Union because they didn’t vote for Trump and demanding a re-run because the popular majority wasn’t big enough. She will be backed up by the minority interest must prevail groups.

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Conor:

Winseer:
Arguments aside as to who’s the worse or worst candidate here -
I notice that the price of Fuel has been kept steadfastly up for the past fornight, despite the price of fuel on the markets having dropped a double-digit percentage over the ensuing period.

It’s possible that a Hilary Victory tonight might be quickly followed by that forecourt price “magically dropping 5-10p” to make it looks like "See?

Forecourt prices don’t follow realtime prices or anything close to it. They went up over the last few weeks because the price of crude rose from $45 per barrel in the last week of October to an average of $51 per barrel for the first three weeks of November. It will take at least 3-4 weeks from the start of a drop before prices start to drop due to the lag in the procurement chain.

That’s just it - the price is back to $44-45 but the petrol hasn’t even budged 1p as yet.

Other than that, what a beautiful day! Wh :open_mouth: could have predicted a clean win for Trump like THAT :exclamation: L :astonished: ve it. :smiley:

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FTSE has already re-gained all it’s overnight losses, Pound is up today as well.

Oil flat, but Mexican Peso has tanked.

NO reason to keep the price of fuel up where it’s been then. It’s still dropped from $55 to $45 in the space of the past month. Forecourt price should be 108.9 already. :imp:

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Winseer:
FTSE has already re-gained all it’s overnight losses, Pound is up today as well.

Oil flat, but Mexican Peso has tanked.

NO reason to keep the price of fuel up where it’s been then. It’s still dropped from $55 to $45 in the space of the past month. Forecourt price should be 108.9 already. :imp:

It’s all part of the same old leave it all in the ground for future generations and global warmist etc etc agenda.If he does what he says he’ll do we’ll hopefully see a big reversal in that bs in the longer term.

As for the peso notice how the possibility of protectionist trade policies has already derailed an agenda which effectively turns free trade into a foreign aid scam.In putting US workers back to work.If the free traders were right it obviously would have crashed the dollar more than the peso. :bulb:

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“Foreign Aid” IS a Scam.

We’re donating money to these countries, then we trade with them at a loss to us, and we import the stuff from that country that we don’t want - “Unskilled Immigrants”!

Common sense seems to have prevailed in the end though.
The conspiracy to “Guilt Trip” away the middle-of-the-road Trump supporters (“You can’t vote for him unless you’re racist/homophobe/xenophobe”) seems to have backfired badly.

Other world leaders, especially Merkel and Hollande want to sit up and pay attention: Right-wing politics is now emerging as the champion of the squeezed middle.

Theresa May is well-placed to weather the storm coming, BUT she’ll still become the victim of it, weighed down by her “Foot-dragging Remainer” credentials.

Brexit, for her - MUST be fully implemented now by the next UK election - or she and her “half-hearted” party are Toast.

Farage on the other hand - can only go on to better things now, and he just happens to be sitting in the correct place when the Music Stopped…
Trump will be rewarding Farage with his support, which Farage might well try and deflect to the UKIP party, him now not needing to step aside after all.

A fully funded UKIP? The party badly needs actual people in it, rather than stuffed shirt runaways from other parties.

The UK stands to save a lot of money just by ceasing to trade with the EU at a loss. “Less losses” equals “More Profit” even if that new replacement trade takes a while to break even. If it kicks off straight into the black - then the sky’s the limit. :wink:

Hard Brexit needs to happen. We cannot stay in the single market even if it’s now offered to us “For Free” by the EU, which it won’t be, because of all the other countries starting with France that will want to follow the UK out.

A Trump Presidency now makes all this MUCH more likely to come about in the months ahead.

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Winseer:
“Foreign Aid” IS a Scam.

We’re donating money to these countries, then we trade with them at a loss to us, and we import the stuff from that country that we don’t want - “Unskilled Immigrants”!

Common sense seems to have prevailed in the end though.
The conspiracy to “Guilt Trip” away the middle-of-the-road Trump supporters (“You can’t vote for him unless you’re racist/homophobe/xenophobe”) seems to have backfired badly.

Other world leaders, especially Merkel and Hollande want to sit up and pay attention: Right-wing politics is now emerging as the champion of the squeezed middle.

Theresa May is well-placed to weather the storm coming, BUT she’ll still become the victim of it, weighed down by her “Foot-dragging Remainer” credentials.

Brexit, for her - MUST be fully implemented now by the next UK election - or she and her “half-hearted” party are Toast.

Farage on the other hand - can only go on to better things now, and he just happens to be sitting in the correct place when the Music Stopped…
Trump will be rewarding Farage with his support, which Farage might well try and deflect to the UKIP party, him now not needing to step aside after all.

A fully funded UKIP? The party badly needs actual people in it, rather than stuffed shirt runaways from other parties.

The UK stands to save a lot of money just by ceasing to trade with the EU at a loss. “Less losses” equals “More Profit” even if that new replacement trade takes a while to break even. If it kicks off straight into the black - then the sky’s the limit. :wink:

Hard Brexit needs to happen. We cannot stay in the single market even if it’s now offered to us “For Free” by the EU, which it won’t be, because of all the other countries starting with France that will want to follow the UK out.

A Trump Presidency now makes all this MUCH more likely to come about in the months ahead.

+1.

The most important point being that zb’s like Farron and Corbyn or all the rest of the establishment knows it can no longer scare the electorate with PC accusations of racism etc etc and it’s terrifying the zb’s.

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Corbyn is starting to show signs of “learning from recent experience”. There might be hope for him yet - but don’t hold your breath. :smiling_imp:

The Liberal Elites at present have been shown up as the Bad Losers they are.
That’ll very likely go on to become a fully-fledged “Anti Democratic” movement.

The Irony!

Disgruntled Democrats become the Anti-Democratic Brownshirts!
(Meanwhile over here, we’ve already got the “Momentum” acting very much like the 1930’s Brownshirts already.)

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Winseer:
The Liberal Elites at present have been shown up as the Bad Losers they are.
That’ll very likely go on to become a fully-fledged “Anti Democratic” movement.

The Irony!

Disgruntled Democrats become the Anti-Democratic Brownshirts!

Definitely seeing the roots of such an idea in the actions of people like Clark and Farron etc regarding the Brexit referendum vote.In addition to the predictable zb from the establishment already happening saying how much of Trump’s policies will be ‘allowed’ to get through.Which is code for how much of it can/will the establishment stop.No surprise that we never heard any such ‘issues’ regarding Obama’s numerous executive decisions and orders and use of his powers.

Having said that it will be even more ironic if the US descends into anarchy because it doesn’t like democracy when it goes against the establishment line as applied through the same Federal system that same establishment had set up.The analogy would be similar to remainers suddenly turning against the EU because Le Pen has become EU president. :bulb:

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Perhaps the Americans will invade there own country as they decide they need some freedom.

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Another post ruined by our resident Bore master Carry me go faster, yawn, yawn, jump off a cliff random Betty Bullacks from CF .

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toby1234abc:
Another post ruined by our resident Bore master Carry me go faster, yawn, yawn, jump off a cliff random Betty Bullacks from CF .

So anyway what’s your actual view on the topic as opposed to just whingeing about my replies on it. :unamused: