My Dad sat an exam in about 1986 saying he is qualified to be a transport manager when he was doing a course in something to do with transport management I was wondering if anybody could tell me if it is still valid or how I could find out.
SparkyFV:
My Dad sat an exam in about 1986 saying he is qualified to be a transport manager when he was doing a course in something to do with transport management I was wondering if anybody could tell me if it is still valid or how I could find out.
dont think so have to ake a re test ask one of the mods
if he took the National or International CPC, then providing he can find his CPC documentation, yes he can
if he passed the CPC exams, but lost the certificate, he can apply to the examination board for copies
white van, why does he need to ask one of the mods?
surely, if a normal member knows the answer, obviously, better than you do, then they are perfectly capable of answering the OP’s question
Does your Dad have the exam certificates ?
shuttlespanker:
white van, why does he need to ask one of the mods?
Cos we know better than you mere mortals, obviously!
Back in the real world…
As shuttlespanker says, it depends exactly what exams he did. Does he still have any paperwork/certificates for it? That could be a help if he has. If it was a “proper” CPC course then yes he will still be entitled to be your TM as the CPC qualifications do not expire.
Paul
my father was my transport manager before i gained my cpc and he never sat an exam he got his through grandfather rights years ago, so although the numbers are getting less with age there will be a good few transport managers that never sat an exam at all
so in answer he should be ok
moose
SparkyFV:
My Dad sat an exam in about 1986 saying he is qualified to be a transport manager when he was doing a course in something to do with transport management I was wondering if anybody could tell me if it is still valid or how I could find out.
All he has to do if he has lost his certificate,is send to the department at Vosa along with his details including his date of birth and they will issue him with a new certificate free of charge.
If he had an international CPC then he is qualified to continue, however if he only held a national, it will expire in December 2011 unless he can book a course and pass it for the December exam.
Wheel Nut:
If he had an international CPC then he is qualified to continue, however if he only held a national, it will expire in December 2011 unless he can book a course and pass it for the December exam.
he wont need the international bit to be the transport manager on a standard national licence
I’m confused now it seems like it is currently valid but is it going to expire ?
SparkyFV:
I’m confused now it seems like it is currently valid but is it going to expire ?
it wont expire, the changes are how the exam is sat/taken
you needed 3 parts for a standard national untill december 2011 ( which could be passed in 3 exams on as many dates as it takes)
after that date you will need 4 parts incl international which will have to be sat on the same day ( if you fail any one part its take it all again!)
SparkyFV:
I’m confused now it seems like it is currently valid but is it going to expire ?
If it is a National CPC qualification then it is not going to expire and indeed the chances are whatever qualification he did is still valid now and will also still be valid after the changes in December. However nobody can really give you a completely accurate answer without knowing exactly what qualification your father passed. If I were you the next step would be to get him to find out any paperwork or certificates relating to it and then let us know what he comes up with.
Regards,
Paul
Dave the Renegade:
SparkyFV:
My Dad sat an exam in about 1986 saying he is qualified to be a transport manager when he was doing a course in something to do with transport management I was wondering if anybody could tell me if it is still valid or how I could find out.All he has to do if he has lost his certificate,is send to the department at Vosa along with his details including his date of birth and they will issue him with a new certificate free of charge.
this is incorrect, he needs to apply to the examination board that covers the operator CPC for a replacement, it has got nothing to do with VOSA apart from the fact that they want to see the certificate in its original form, not a photocopy
shuttlespanker:
Dave the Renegade:
SparkyFV:
My Dad sat an exam in about 1986 saying he is qualified to be a transport manager when he was doing a course in something to do with transport management I was wondering if anybody could tell me if it is still valid or how I could find out.All he has to do if he has lost his certificate,is send to the department at Vosa along with his details including his date of birth and they will issue him with a new certificate free of charge.
this is incorrect, he needs to apply to the examination board that covers the operator CPC for a replacement, it has got nothing to do with VOSA apart from the fact that they want to see the certificate in its original form, not a photocopy
You can download the forms from OCR and send them off with a huge cheque. I think it cost me 40 quid for replacements. They need to know whereabouts you sat the exam and roughly in what year
Moose:
Wheel Nut:
If he had an international CPC then he is qualified to continue, however if he only held a national, it will expire in December 2011 unless he can book a course and pass it for the December exam.he wont need the international bit to be the transport manager on a standard national licence
Sorry you are correct my explanation has confused things.
The changes affect those who are in the middle of taking exams and the international module must be completed before December 2012. The warnings that are coming through the press and post are to do with the exemptions. If you fail the national in December, you will have to resit the whole lot, is how I read it now.
If you are a member of the transport institute or league of gentlemen, engineers etc, you could get an exemption without examination, this will cease to exist.
The new regulation is changing grandfather rights (or exemptions) to the Operator CPC. While there is still some lack of clarity, historically, corporate membership of certain trade bodies, if obtained by examination, has potentially given its holder a CPC exemption — but this is not necessarily an automatic award and candidates must check with their trade association that their exemption has been issued.
Reading the above link:
Have my Nat CPC and want to complete the Int CPC, think the explantion means I have until end of 2012 to take Int CPC afterwards I would need to retake the whole sheebang to gain the Int
shuttlespanker:
Dave the Renegade:
SparkyFV:
My Dad sat an exam in about 1986 saying he is qualified to be a transport manager when he was doing a course in something to do with transport management I was wondering if anybody could tell me if it is still valid or how I could find out.All he has to do if he has lost his certificate,is send to the department at Vosa along with his details including his date of birth and they will issue him with a new certificate free of charge.
this is incorrect, he needs to apply to the examination board that covers the operator CPC for a replacement, it has got nothing to do with VOSA apart from the fact that they want to see the certificate in its original form, not a photocopy
In the past, GV203s - green ‘grandfather rights’ certificates - were issued by Traffic Commissioners to those with experience of operating licensed goods vehicles before 1 January 1975. These are acceptable as proof of professional competence for both national and international licence applications. If you don’t already have one of these certificates, you cannot now claim one.
Copies of lost or damaged grandfathers’ rights certificates can be obtained free of charge from:
VOSA Central Licensing Office
Hillcrest House
386 Harehills Lane
Leeds
LS9 6NF
If you need a new certificate, you should apply in writing giving your full name, date of birth and the reason for seeking a copy
Or try thiese.
Replacement Certificate for Vocational/
Former RSA Qualifications and Certificate of
Professional Competence Application Form
Important: Please read the information below before completing this form
OCR can only provide confirmation of results taken with our board or RSA examinations. If you
are unsure which examination board your exams were taken through, contact all possible
examining boards as well to ensure you find all the results you require.
- OCR issues all certificates and result slips to the centre where the examination was taken.
Please check with your centre if you have not received your certificate. - Whilst we endeavour to locate your results, we are unable to guarantee success.
- Please allow 28 days for an application to be processed. We are unable to prioritise any
application. - Certificates are issued in the legal name of the candidate at the time the award was made.
Replacements will not be provided to accommodate a subsequent change of name (including a
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- The application form must be completed and signed by the candidate.
Further information can be found in our FAQs document:
You may use this form to obtain replacement certificates for OCR vocational qualifications
including GNVQ completed prior to June 2001 and former RSA examinations. this.
Dave, the info you have just posted is not relevant to the thread in question
the OP said his father sat an exam in 1986, this means he did not gain his certificate by grandfather rights, with this in mind, he cannot apply to VOSA for a duplicate certificate as they will have no record of it, he needs to apply to the governing body of the examination board, which as Malc pointed out, is OCR for a duplicate certificate
My father is my TM, he lost his certificate and had to go to the OCR for a duplicate, they are based in Coventry
shuttlespanker:
Dave, the info you have just posted is not relevant to the thread in questionthe OP said his father sat an exam in 1986, this means he did not gain his certificate by grandfather rights, with this in mind, he cannot apply to VOSA for a duplicate certificate as they will have no record of it, he needs to apply to the governing body of the examination board, which as Malc pointed out, is OCR for a duplicate certificate
My father is my TM, he lost his certificate and had to go to the OCR for a duplicate, they are based in Coventry
Hi Shuttlespanker,
Point taken,the piece I posted was a general reference to lost or missing certificates.I keep mine in frames on the wall,otherwise mine would get lost .
Cheers Dave.
Thanks everyone I think my Dads still qualified and I think he still has the papers somewhere so shouldnt have to send away for new copies.