Maybe there is some sense in what you say, Rob, but the bottom line is that we did it for the right reasons and not because we were mugs. We did it because we believed in ourselves and wanted to get more out of our abilities than a weekly wage and were prepared to gamble.
I gave it up for my own reasons. You would possibly remember the ones I discussed on another forum, but that wasn’t all of it. There were other personal reasons for getting out of the life and the country. Had I not left then I have no doubt I would be in chokey on a 10+ stretch.
We are not mugs, and if you think you know better then you are wrong. End of story!
Funny, too, how most former O/Ds are able to find good jobs afterwards and are generally prepared to think of doing it all again.
You don’t know how it goes, but you think you do, and you insist we are wrong. Why?
your wasting your time lads, rob’s one of these who will never be wrong or at least never admit he’s wrong!
he saw some work advertised in one of the mags for £1 odd a mile and thought every o/d in the country was working for that sort of money even though the vast mjority of work pays more than that, but it didn’t matter.
even when me and few other’s have posted an average days work showing what sort of money can be earnt on better work, it stil didn’t matter
he states that two thirds of all o/d’s money goes in running costs even though i and everyone else who actually does the job will tell him different, it still dosn’t matter.
rob’s right and thousands are wrong, the fact that all his theories are based on hear say and absolutely nothing dosn’t seem to bother him in any way, he’s right, he just can’t be wrong.
what always intrigues me about the robk’s of this world is, they’ll come on forums such as this and tell anyone who’ll listen how we’re all one step away from banrupcy, the jobs gone, the cost of running wagons makes it a waste of time etc etc, we’re all mugs and we’re all doomed BUT those same people will then post on another thread, how much money they’re earning and how great the job is, have they got out of the haulage game? found a new line of work maybe? NO, they’re driving trucks up n down the road!
wonder where they think these big wages that the likes of rob are so keen to post about come from, when theres no money in the job?
N2N Transport:
Just an update, gave up with the Rigids sold 2 mercs and now lease renaults at 44T.
Work is definately more available even if the rates ■■■■ £1.12 PPM is the best offered laden and unladen.
STill as I said before better than letting good guy’s go.
Just waiting now to see if payment is a prompt as promised
what have you done about the o licence?
a restricted o licence is for the carriage of goods you have manufactured or materials used in the manufacture of those goods or equipment to be used for your business (buying/selling etc).
it is illegal for you to carry out transport movements for third parties on a hire and reward basis.
as the national o licence is blue and international green a restricted o licence is a sort of orangey type colour and very distinct from either of the other 2.
a restricted o licence does not require a cpc holder but only someone with a knowledge of transport and prepared to be nominated as bucket carrier when everything blows up in their face because they know nothing about service schedules and driver vehicle checks, brake testing or drivers hours etc.
it’s important that you operate legally in the area of hire and reward because you are sharing the pool with the other big fish and if they see you have a restricted o licence they will report it because you are taking work off them.
Yes we have now got a standard National license, my transport manager has both his National and International CPC.
I have kept the Restricted open for own goods under N2N as it allows my core business to continue to trade outside of the UK. This is purely for own goods its just not worth bending the rules if I wanted international then I would change the licence.
at least someone reads a post fully before Jumping down your throat. This is temporary as you say and not a forever OD business.
As for £1.12 per mile laden or unladen that is not the worst we have been offered how about £1.05 plus forced skeletal rental at £115 per week ( I Kid not).
The one bonus is that when business does return to normal hopefully soon we can still fill the trailers on outbound journeys for some extra cash rather then running empty.
N2N Transport:
I have kept the Restricted open for own goods under N2N as it allows my core business to continue to trade outside of the UK.
a SN licence covers you for own account abroad as well.
from A&D
A Standard National (S/N) licence allows the licence holder to carry both his own goods and goods for other people for hire or reward, on public roads in Great Britain. He can also carry his own goods on journeys abroad;
since they changed the financial rules theres very little difference between applying for a SN licence or an International one, TM being one.
I was thinking of going for an international when mine comes up for renewal
