Just thought I’d throw this one in the pot, not offering my views yet, but I’m sure Dennis & a few far more intelligent men than I am, would have something to say about it…over to you Men.
Dieseldog66:
Just thought I’d throw this one in the pot, not offering my views yet, but I’m sure Dennis & a few far more intelligent men than I am, would have something to say about it…over to you Men.
I noticed that you seperated me from “a few far more intelligent men than I am” DD6 
,Anyway,as far as your question about re-nationalisation goes,it was a failure the first time and,if it was at all possible a second time ( which it definitely is not!) it would undoubtedly fail a second time.The main difference to-day is the industry is a “free for all” since the introduction of operator licences whereas back in the '40’s there was carrier licencing so there was at least a firm framework to work with,every Tom,■■■■ and Harry couldn’t just pile into the industry regardless of demand for their services.My same opinion applies to the other State nationalised industries that eventually failed,Steel,Rail,Coal, British Leyland etc. etc.Just my opinion,others may an equal and opposite opinion to me on the question 
Cheers Dennis.
Dieseldog66:
Just thought I’d throw this one in the pot, not offering my views yet, but I’m sure Dennis & a few far more intelligent men than I am, would have something to say about it…over to you Men.
I cannot think of any single valid reason why there is a case for re-nationalisation. Moreover the industry is totally different to how it was in 1948 with nationalisation the first time. Apart from how the industry is structured from a legal point of view now, compared with then, the patterns of work are very different. Also back then nationalisation of the various industries was a Socialist / Trade Unions led agenda and even the present day Labour Party has no stomach for nationalisation. An interesting thought from DD66 but the country could not afford a nationalised infrastructure of industries ever again.
I believe the only thing that could be nationalised is the railway network, not the trains, staff or stations. I certainly do not want to see a nationalised road haulage industry, although I would like the transport industry to grow some ■■■■■■■■ and put someone in charge from within it, to be the minister in charge. The government seem to pick the last wet lettuce out of the bargain bin when it comes to giving that post away.
I’d say that a nationalised road transport industry,based on allowing LHV’s,getting rid of speed limiters and tachos,and bringing back log books,with allowance for trucks to use red diesel and using a quota system of at least 50% of all export and import loads having to go on a uk registered truck,would work fine and probably better all round than what we’ve got now.
Carryfast:
I’d say that a nationalised road transport industry,based on allowing LHV’s,getting rid of speed limiters and tachos,and bringing back log books,with allowance for trucks to use red diesel and using a quota system of at least 50% of all export and import loads having to go on a uk registered truck,would work fine and probably better all round than what we’ve got now.
more or less what I would expect you to think
The hauliers would have to be compensated, IE the Government would have to buy their businesses from them, so that would cost the taxpayer money. No thanks.
GB would be better off if it could reduce the amount of traffic lost to foreign firms. Insisting that any driver on the road had to have a British LGV driver’s CPC would stem the flow of East European vehicles, especially if drivers had to have a re-examination every year. If the fuel duty escalator had been kept, in conjunction with tank-dipping and tax-levying at the ports, that would have given British-based operators a home advantage. I guess the EU has put a block on all such legislation, on the grounds that it is anti-competitive.
The Act was part of the nationalisation agenda of Clement Attlee’s Labour government, and took effect from 1 January 1948. In Northern Ireland, the Ulster Transport Authority acted in a similar manner. The government also nationalised other means of transport such as canals, sea and shipping ports, bus companies, and eventually, in the face of much opposition, road haulage. All of these transport modes, including British Railways, were brought under the control of a new body, the British Transport Commission (BTC).
The BTC was a part of a highly ambitious scheme to create a publicly owned, centrally planned, integrated transport system. In theory the BTC was to co-ordinate different modes of transport, to co-operate and supplement each other instead of competing. This was to be achieved by means of fare and rate adjustments. In practice, very little integration between modes ever materialised.
Road transport[edit]
The road haulage industry bitterly opposed nationalisation, and found allies in the Conservative Party. Once the Conservatives were elected in 1951, road haulage was soon de-nationalised and de-regulated, but the still heavily regulated railways and buses were left under the control of the BTC.
That was 65+ years ago,so it ain’t going to happen again.
Carryfast:
I’d say that a nationalised road transport industry,based on allowing LHV’s,getting rid of speed limiters and tachos,and bringing back log books,with allowance for trucks to use red diesel and using a quota system of at least 50% of all export and import loads having to go on a uk registered truck,would work fine and probably better all round than what we’ve got now.
Anyway “CF” how come you missed getting slung on the bonfire last night,Ah! I know,Matron wouldn’t let you out of your cell,sorry,secure room would she 
Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
Dieseldog66:
Just thought I’d throw this one in the pot, not offering my views yet, but I’m sure Dennis & a few far more intelligent men than I am, would have something to say about it…over to you Men.I noticed that you seperated me from “a few far more intelligent men than I am” DD6
I only put you seperate as I knew you had strong views on the subject Dennis, the others I just lumped together. Maybe that haulier from up north, green wagon’s, errr can’t think of the name, would be best suited as he’s almost there. where’s the tin hat…
Carryfast:
I’d say that a nationalised road transport industry,based on allowing LHV’s,getting rid of speed limiters and tachos,and bringing back log books,with allowance for trucks to use red diesel and using a quota system of at least 50% of all export and import loads having to go on a uk registered truck,would work fine and probably better all round than what we’ve got now.
Dream on you ■■■■■ Nationlisation of the Road Haulage Industrey was a born loser A bit like you & for you to think it work on the things you have posted Well like Ive already said dream on in your cosy little world that you live in all by your dear old self, Regards Larry PS, A believer in free enterprize.
Carryfast:
I’d say that a nationalised road transport industry,based on allowing LHV’s,getting rid of speed limiters and tachos,and bringing back log books,with allowance for trucks to use red diesel and using a quota system of at least 50% of all export and import loads having to go on a uk registered truck,would work fine and probably better all round than what we’ve got now.
Every now and then you get someone like you pop out the woodwork you are not in the real world man, Buzzer
Buzzer:
Carryfast:
I’d say that a nationalised road transport industry,based on allowing LHV’s,getting rid of speed limiters and tachos,and bringing back log books,with allowance for trucks to use red diesel and using a quota system of at least 50% of all export and import loads having to go on a uk registered truck,would work fine and probably better all round than what we’ve got now.Every now and then you get someone like you pop out the woodwork you are not in the real world man, Buzzer
Now that is a good likeness of the great man Buzzer 
Bewick.
Buzzer:
Carryfast:
I’d say that a nationalised road transport industry,based on allowing LHV’s,getting rid of speed limiters and tachos,and bringing back log books,with allowance for trucks to use red diesel and using a quota system of at least 50% of all export and import loads having to go on a uk registered truck,would work fine and probably better all round than what we’ve got now.Every now and then you get someone like you pop out the woodwork you are not in the real world man, Buzzer
Ha Ha, I like it, Slap & Run Oh no, Slap pause & then keep on slapping , Eh, Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Buzzer:
Carryfast:
I’d say that a nationalised road transport industry,based on allowing LHV’s,getting rid of speed limiters and tachos,and bringing back log books,with allowance for trucks to use red diesel and using a quota system of at least 50% of all export and import loads having to go on a uk registered truck,would work fine and probably better all round than what we’ve got now.Every now and then you get someone like you pop out the woodwork you are not in the real world man, Buzzer
Ha Ha, I like it, Slap & Run Oh no, Slap pause & then keep on slapping , Eh, Regards Larry.
Aye Larry,I think thats what the Mid wife did,but she thought she was slapping his arse but it was his face she found out—eventually Dennis.
In 1947 when the Government of the day decided to nationalize transport, the country was skint and knackered after WW2. Now the country is back to being skint and knackered, but the haulage industries vehicles and property etc are worth a hell of a lot more in real terms. Also the industry is a totally different ball game to then.
Cheers Dave.
Bewick:
Lawrence Dunbar:
Buzzer:
Carryfast:
I’d say that a nationalised road transport industry,based on allowing LHV’s,getting rid of speed limiters and tachos,and bringing back log books,with allowance for trucks to use red diesel and using a quota system of at least 50% of all export and import loads having to go on a uk registered truck,would work fine and probably better all round than what we’ve got now.Every now and then you get someone like you pop out the woodwork you are not in the real world man, Buzzer
Ha Ha, I like it, Slap & Run Oh no, Slap pause & then keep on slapping , Eh, Regards Larry.
Aye Larry,I think thats what the Mid wife did,but she thought she was slapping his arse but it was his face she found out—eventually
Aye Dennis what a mistaker to maker Eh But of course there was no specsavers in those days, But I can only think that they both must have looked the same for some reason, What do you think, Eh Regards Larry.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Carryfast:
I’d say that a nationalised road transport industry,based on allowing LHV’s,getting rid of speed limiters and tachos,and bringing back log books,with allowance for trucks to use red diesel and using a quota system of at least 50% of all export and import loads having to go on a uk registered truck,would work fine and probably better all round than what we’ve got now.Dream on you [zb], Nationlisation of the Road Haulage Industrey was a born loser A bit like you & for you to think it work on the things you have posted Well like Ive already said dream on in your cosy little world that you live in all by your dear old self, Regards Larry PS, A believer in free enterprize.
I’m sure that every East European haulage firm and their underpaid drivers would agree with you on that. 
Bewick:
Lawrence Dunbar:
Buzzer:
Carryfast:
I’d say that a nationalised road transport industry,based on allowing LHV’s,getting rid of speed limiters and tachos,and bringing back log books,with allowance for trucks to use red diesel and using a quota system of at least 50% of all export and import loads having to go on a uk registered truck,would work fine and probably better all round than what we’ve got now.Every now and then you get someone like you pop out the woodwork you are not in the real world man, Buzzer
Ha Ha, I like it, Slap & Run Oh no, Slap pause & then keep on slapping , Eh, Regards Larry.
Aye Larry,I think thats what the Mid wife did,but she thought she was slapping his arse but it was his face she found out—eventually
That’s probably better than keeping the after birth and throwing the kid away which some say is a common occurrence oop norf.
Nationalising road transport no ,but nationalising energy companies yes,maybe the oil industry too