Is it acceptable?

I steal cats in my free time.

i juggle hamsters,and my other hobby is trying to nail jelly to the ceiling,but that would be going off topic… :open_mouth:

Dork Lard:
OK, it’s a contractor / owner driver doing strictly day runs, but this one has been seen in our yard with a puppy dog loose in the cab.

Is a loose puppy acceptable? Even when waiting to load?

And if it is restrained whilst driving, is it acceptable to restrain a young pup in the cab?

Just be thankful the driver is not Dutch. Dog turds are bad enough.

eagerbeaver:
So an owner driver has a dog in his/her cab. In another part of the yard, an employed driver is spending his 45 min break Juan king himself to oblivion over some ■■■■ on a tablet.

In the warehouse a forkie is nicking some wine. Meanwhile, one of the office bods is checking his Ebay account on a company computer.

Is this how bad things are that folk spy on one another? Why the f**k do people poke their nose into other peoples business? :unamused:

Amen

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If he’s an owner-driver, then it’s his lorry, his cab and his dog and no one else’s business.

On the subject of kids in the cab…I went to a conference where a long-established rural haulier was speaking about the driver shortage, and a factor he mentioned was that kids didn’t want to be drivers anymore because they no longer had the opportunity to go out with dad in the lorry in the school holidays. He added that, where customers allowed it, he actively encouraged his drivers to bring their children (and grandchildren) to work so they could ride in a lorry.

Even if they didn’t go on to become lorry drivers, he argued, it made them safer road users from day one on because they understood that you couldn’t see everything that was going on around the lorry from the inside of the cab and that the lorry couldn’t stop dead in no time or distance if it was going along.

dieseldog999:
i juggle hamsters,and my other hobby is trying to nail jelly to the ceiling,but that would be going off topic… :open_mouth:

While driving of course? Id be bitterly disappointed if you said it was on your break, id like to think it was while the ‘must make the boat button’ was engaged… :grimacing:

GasGas:
If he’s an owner-driver, then it’s his lorry, his cab and his dog and no one else’s business.

On the subject of kids in the cab…I went to a conference where a long-established rural haulier was speaking about the driver shortage, and a factor he mentioned was that kids didn’t want to be drivers anymore because they no longer had the opportunity to go out with dad in the lorry in the school holidays. He added that, where customers allowed it, he actively encouraged his drivers to bring their children (and grandchildren) to work so they could ride in a lorry.

Even if they didn’t go on to become lorry drivers, he argued, it made them safer road users from day one on because they understood that you couldn’t see everything that was going on around the lorry from the inside of the cab and that the lorry couldn’t stop dead in no time or distance if it was going along.

To be fair he’s got a point because it was me going with my old man when I was a lad that made me want to get into driving and gave me a huge insight into it. I even got given my first wage packet by his boss. Only a couple of quid but back then I thought I was minted.

My lad is chomping to come with me for the day and I know my firm would be fine with it but it’s not up to them and depends on customers :unamused:

toonsy:
To be fair he’s got a point because it was me going with my old man when I was a lad that made me want to get into driving and gave me a huge insight into it. I even got given my first wage packet by his boss. Only a couple of quid but back then I thought I was minted.

My lad is chomping to come with me for the day and I know my firm would be fine with it but it’s not up to them and depends on customers :unamused:

If it had not been for me going with my Dad and later on a couple of mates, I would have been doing something else now (but I don’t think TOO badly of them for it :laughing: )

All my kids (one at a time) have been all over UK and Europe with me up to about 8 yrs ago, they just used to hide in the bunk and draw the curtain across if it was an arsey type place.
There was a tv and games console in there for them so they were happy enough with it.

I used to love it in the school holidays when I could go to work with my dad, he was a gynaecologist.

My neighbour is a gynaecologist. Well I assume he is, I saw him decorating his hall through the letterbox the other day.

I’ve a dog that I regularly take out in the truck on locals without being restraint. She’s a large labrador so too big to restrain to the single passenger seat full time but she will regularly sit on it looking out, curl up in a ball on it or mostly just lie on the bunk. I used to drive trucks at 75-80 mph with my kids on the bunk or in the passenger seat before seatbelts were fitted to trucks. I don’t think having an unrestrained dog in the cab is going to be the worst offence I’ve ever committed.

Think it’s time for a lot of drivers to grow a pair and man up. There’s more balls and backbone at a WI bring and buy sale than there is in this industry in recent years.

the maoster:
My neighbour is a gynaecologist. Well I assume he is, I saw him decorating his hall through the letterbox the other day.

Me pappy used to tease me that women had sharp teeth down there, to cut a long story short when I met the beloved she convinced me there was no teeth in her ■■■■■ and let me check for myself.
On closer inspection I shouted “your right princess there’s no teeth but omg look at the state of your gums”…

I’ll get me coat (and forceps).

absolutely unacceptable OP is poking his nose into others business, seems to be the way of the world these days.

MIND YOUR OWN :unamused:

Talking of puppies…

Dork Lard:
OK, it’s a contractor / owner driver doing strictly day runs, but this one has been seen in our yard with a puppy dog loose in the cab.

Is a loose puppy acceptable? Even when waiting to load?

And if it is restrained whilst driving, is it acceptable to restrain a young pup in the cab?

Firstly mind your own business,as long as he`s not interfering with you or your job its of no concern of yours.
Secondly how do know that the pup was not harnessed and clipped on when he was travelling and was able to have safe restricted movement.

Dipper_Dave:
I used to love it in the school holidays when I could go to work with my dad, he was a gynaecologist.

Did he let you have a little go when no one was looking? My dad did, mind you he was a lorry driver.
Bernard

albion1938:

Dipper_Dave:
I used to love it in the school holidays when I could go to work with my dad, he was a gynaecologist.

Did he let you have a little go when no one was looking? My dad did, mind you he was a lorry driver.
Bernard

He let me help open the curtains a few times when the ladies where unconscious.

maurice:
I’ve a dog that I regularly take out in the truck on locals without being restraint. She’s a large labrador so too big to restrain to the single passenger seat full time but she will regularly sit on it looking out, curl up in a ball on it or mostly just lie on the bunk. I used to drive trucks at 75-80 mph with my kids on the bunk or in the passenger seat before seatbelts were fitted to trucks. I don’t think having an unrestrained dog in the cab is going to be the worst offence I’ve ever committed.

Think it’s time for a lot of drivers to grow a pair and man up. There’s more balls and backbone at a WI bring and buy sale than there is in this industry in recent years.

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Well said.
Wrapped up in cotton wool all warm and snugly is where its at nowadays…

Dork Lard:
OK, it’s a contractor / owner driver doing strictly day runs, but this one has been seen in our yard with a puppy dog loose in the cab.

Is a loose puppy acceptable? Even when waiting to load?

And if it is restrained whilst driving, is it acceptable to restrain a young pup in the cab?

To me personally, yes, its wholly unacceptable.

  1. First and foremost there is the issue of safety. An unrestrained dog in the cab becomes a barking missile in an accident. Now I appreciate that we don’t know for certain that this mutt was unsecured but if it was running around the cab there is a good chance it wasn’t strapped in. Then there is the chance that a puppy, which are never known for their ability to sit still and shut up for 4.5 hours at a time, could distract the driver at the critical moment with squashed school kid as a result.

  2. There is at least one religion out there, I cant remember if its Islam or Hinduism who believe that Satan will return to Earth in the form of a dog and therefore a large number of adherents have an understandable fear of dogs. Even if the site doesn’t have a rule against bringing a dog in, is it fair to potentially expose members of the faith to their fears while in a place they are supposed to be kept safe and secure.

  3. Is it fair on anyone else who will drive the vehicle? I am an O/D myself. I am the only driver named on the insurance and the only person to hold keys to the truck. That being said, I am not the only driver of the truck. Every six weeks a driver comes to my yard to collect the vehicle. Then a technician drives the vehicle into the service bay and does an inspection on it, then a driver, not necessarily the same one, brings the truck back. So a one driver vehicle is regularly driven by three or four people. It’s why smoking in a vehicle is immoral regardless of who owns it. In my opinion.

  4. Finally, when the O/D in question is done with the wagon, the stench, and the after effects of any little accidents, are inflicted upon the driver who works for the new owner.

There are four good to ok reasons why it shouldn’t be done from the human perspective. The final one to consider are the needs and rights of the dog, is it fair on them?

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