Hi.
I have a question to all of you working for companies dealing with Irish Sea traffic. Do you have any problems with obtaining gmr references?
I know of a company my friend works which operates to and from Ireland who was unable to collect a total of 65 pallets from various places (for his one depot) yesterday and more today because of a lack of reference numbers.
3 backloads this week from England to Northern Ireland / Ireland requiring GMR’s , all obtained with no problems and trailers shipped unaccompanied from Cairnryan and Birkenhead with no fuss and no delays . For others I have heard of delays of anywhere between 4 and 60 hours waiting for the magical GMR .Many have outsourced the customs clearance “paperwork” to agents and it seems there aren’t enough agents for the busy times of the day - it would seem the boats between Midnight and 6 am which would normally be busy with supermarket traffic are where the backlogs and problems are happening .
Freight traffic is down due to it being January but its going to take a bit of time to get it all running smoothly .
Stories in various media of Sainsbury putting Spar own brand products on the shelves in Northern Ireland. No one is about to starve but there are problems with supply lines.
Franglais:
Stories in various media of Sainsbury putting Spar own brand products on the shelves in Northern Ireland. No one is about to starve but there are problems with supply lines.
The main delays once the correct paperwork has been obtained when coming into Dublin are down to the Irish customs either not knowing the rules or being over zealous. One of ours came in with an empty trailer and had to wait an hour and a half to be cleared and another came in loaded from Holland came through the UK no problem and sat for 12 hours in Dublin for clearance despite it being an EU to EU load. Verona Murphy a TD in the Irish parliament has asked why are loads coming through Belfast being cleared in around 6 minutes and the same load coming into Dublin takes an average of 4 hours, an article in the Independant lays all the blame with the UK then contradicts itself by saying hauliers are now using the Cairnryan crossing to avoid delays yet both crossings are subject to the same rules yet as pointed out by the TD loads are taking a fraction of the time to clear on that route compared with Holyhead Dublin.
The Irish government is now looking at easing the rules to allow the flow of goods.
Franglais:
Stories in various media of Sainsbury putting Spar own brand products on the shelves in Northern Ireland. No one is about to starve but there are problems with supply lines.
Sainsbury’s took a lot of flak before Christmas when they "predicted "shortages of fresh meat and fish in Northern Ireland after Brexit .I supposse they might be trying to make it look like there are shortages by putting some Spar products on the shelves (at a higher price
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Without wanting to start an arguement Boris announced a “deal” on Christmas eve with no details - hauliers ,producers, processors ,end users, ferries , customs had one week to get this up and running so I’d say its fair to say there were always going to be problems . The politicians have hashed through it for 4 years and given us one week to get it sorted out - it really should have been the other way round . Can you imagine if they had told say teachers that they were changing the national curriculium with one weeks notice ?- strikes , outrage , Unions , negotiations, more strikes , picket lines etc - hauliers just get on with it and try to make it happen .
beefy4605:
Franglais:
Stories in various media of Sainsbury putting Spar own brand products on the shelves in Northern Ireland. No one is about to starve but there are problems with supply lines.Sainsbury’s took a lot of flak before Christmas when they "predicted "shortages of fresh meat and fish in Northern Ireland after Brexit .I supposse they might be trying to make it look like there are shortages by putting some Spar products on the shelves (at a higher price
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Without wanting to start an arguement Boris announced a “deal” on Christmas eve with no details - hauliers ,producers, processors ,end users, ferries , customs had one week to get this up and running so I’d say its fair to say there were always going to be problems . The politicians have hashed through it for 4 years and given us one week to get it sorted out - it really should have been the other way round . Can you imagine if they had told say teachers that they were changing the national curriculium with one weeks notice ?- strikes , outrage , Unions , negotiations, more strikes , picket lines etc - hauliers just get on with it and try to make it happen .
Not quite so, I think.
The deal was announced just before Christmas, but the new documents were known about before then. The programmes and computors werent up and running. The deal means that things are much *easier* than they would otherwise be. Think what it would have been if there was a "no deal"! Holland recruited 900 extra customs officers years ago to be ready in place. Some Orange holding bays and TIR type parking have been in France for over a year. I guess they have extra Douaniers, but don
t have figures.
The UK, led by these donkeys, is behind the curve because of faffing about. We set the agenda and fired the starting gun, we are the ones lagging behind.
I don`t blame those who are doing their best to get software written, parks paved, buildings built, but those who have been fighting amongst themselves about what they actually really want!
Franglais:
beefy4605:
Franglais:
Stories in various media of Sainsbury putting Spar own brand products on the shelves in Northern Ireland. No one is about to starve but there are problems with supply lines.Sainsbury’s took a lot of flak before Christmas when they "predicted "shortages of fresh meat and fish in Northern Ireland after Brexit .I supposse they might be trying to make it look like there are shortages by putting some Spar products on the shelves (at a higher price
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Without wanting to start an arguement Boris announced a “deal” on Christmas eve with no details - hauliers ,producers, processors ,end users, ferries , customs had one week to get this up and running so I’d say its fair to say there were always going to be problems . The politicians have hashed through it for 4 years and given us one week to get it sorted out - it really should have been the other way round . Can you imagine if they had told say teachers that they were changing the national curriculium with one weeks notice ?- strikes , outrage , Unions , negotiations, more strikes , picket lines etc - hauliers just get on with it and try to make it happen .Not quite so, I think.
The deal was announced just before Christmas, but the new documents were known about before then. The programmes and computors werent up and running. The deal means that things are much *easier* than they would otherwise be. Think what it would have been if there was a "no deal"! Holland recruited 900 extra customs officers years ago to be ready in place. Some Orange holding bays and TIR type parking have been in France for over a year. I guess they have extra Douaniers, but don
t have figures.
The UK, led by these donkeys, is behind the curve because of faffing about. We set the agenda and fired the starting gun, we are the ones lagging behind.
I don`t blame those who are doing their best to get software written, parks paved, buildings built, but those who have been fighting amongst themselves about what they actually really want!
Franglais we are actually saying the same thing here - I do agree with you .
Came in Larne Tue morn hanging load,
had GMR but no CHED number.
Load dropped@ Shed66 to be delivered by local driver later.
Back in again Belfast Fri morn@ 0200 another hanging load
but had CHED number alongside GMR number this time.
Seal checked by DEFRA boys and didn’t even check my paperwork:
“On you go driver”!!!