toonsy:
cav551:
unless the strap is led across to the opposite side of the trailer - but who does that?
I collect from somewhere in Sunderland which will remain nameless. Bottled drinks. They wont let the load go unless you crossover strap the pallets with internals.
The first time I went there I had the argument that it wasn’t sufficient but was told I couldnt use ratchets as they’d crush the goods (which even with corner boards they would).
So you end up in a situation where you cant win because goods often aren’t presented as fit enough to transport securely. The driver, often without enough equipment to cover every type of load, is forced to make the best of a scenario because its him/her who gets the full hit from the authorities.
We should adopt rules like some other countries in Europe where the consignor is also responsible for load security. The likes of Coca Cola (for example) would have to change the way they send stuff out instead of just gluing a ton of cases together 
Drinks should be sent in metal or wooden stillage type things that can withstand as much pressure from a ratchet that anyone could tighten them to. Anything else is just a token gesture to say yeah look I did give load security a thought. You’ve got about 1 ton of drinks stacked up with a couple of layers of cling film wrapped round and your supposed to secure it? I’ve snapped an internal before when putting my body weight down on it to tighten, and I weigh about 80kg. And we are expecting them to hold up to a ton in many cases. Granted for me to snap it with body weight the condition of the strap was poor somewhere along it. But still the point stands that when you look at the strap and what it’s attached to it’s almost pointless.
toonsy:
cav551:
unless the strap is led across to the opposite side of the trailer - but who does that?
I collect from somewhere in Sunderland which will remain nameless. Bottled drinks. They wont let the load go unless you crossover strap the pallets with internals.
The first time I went there I had the argument that it wasn’t sufficient but was told I couldnt use ratchets as they’d crush the goods (which even with corner boards they would).
So you end up in a situation where you cant win because goods often aren’t presented as fit enough to transport securely. The driver, often without enough equipment to cover every type of load, is forced to make the best of a scenario because its him/her who gets the full hit from the authorities.
We should adopt rules like some other countries in Europe where the consignor is also responsible for load security. The likes of Coca Cola (for example) would have to change the way they send stuff out instead of just gluing a ton of cases together
If you’ve not got an XL rated trailer on,
Your options are refuse the load / ring boss say you’ll only take it if they pay any fines, but that won’t be that much help if something goes proper ■■■■ up.
A job like that needs to be quoted for using an XL rated trailer, then with the likely positive fit load, no straps are required, so using the internals for a bit of extra support is fine
And the pointless consternation continues when the answer is simple as several have already indicated but here we go once again…
stevieboy308:
A job like that needs to be quoted for using an XL rated trailer, then with the likely positive fit load, no straps are required
Simple as …and rate cutters with the wrong equipment should be parked up, banned or whatever so proper hauliers can do the job with proper equipment for a proper price and pay the driver a proper wage and said driver has no worries because he knows his load is safe and legal.
Here is a Beverage Curtainsider from Schmitz and no straps whatsoever required. Side laths only required if not loaded to the back door thus allowing you to fit a few cross supports or alternatively vertical bars. There’s a video also. cargobull.com/uk/beverage-t … 0_214.html
toonsy:
We should adopt rules like some other countries in Europe where the consignor is also responsible for load security. The likes of Coca Cola (for example) would have to change the way they send stuff out instead of just gluing a ton of cases together
That simple law change would fix the problem overnight but big business and their paid lobbyists will be having none of it. Neoliberal government policy wouldn’t inconvenience big business so will it just continue to blame the driving cannon fodder so they appear to be doing something.
(theguardian.com/books/2016/ … ge-monbiot)
And if you think it’s bad here you should see all the bs the driver alone picks up the tab for in the States where Neoliberal policy is the bible.