tachograph:
As long as they’re not telling you to do anything illegal your only options are:
- convince them to change their rules
- comply with their rules
- leave.
- Carry on as normal, ignoring their nonsense.
robinhood_1984:
tachograph:
As long as they’re not telling you to do anything illegal your only options are:
- convince them to change their rules
- comply with their rules
- leave.
- Carry on as normal, ignoring their nonsense.
Unfortunately that’s only an option as long as the company allow it to be 
I should of mentioned before, in the example I wouldn’t be clocking off after the 30+ min break. I’d still be working anything up to a 15 hour day after that.
LR18-8:
I should of mentioned before, in the example I wouldn’t be clocking off after the 30+ min break. I’d still be working anything up to a 15 hour day after that.
just do as they want 2 x 30 min breaks
LR18-8:
I should of mentioned before, in the example I wouldn’t be clocking off after the 30+ min break. I’d still be working anything up to a 15 hour day after that.
With the example shown, if you worked up-to a 15 hour shift you would be working another 7¼ hours after the 30 minute break, so you would need to have a 15 minute break one hour or more after the 30 minute break.
Presumably you are checking that you don’t exceed six hours working time without a break at any time during the shift ?
LR18-8:
Start: 6 am
Drive: 3 hr
O/W: 2 hr
Break: 15 mins
Drive: 1hr
O/W: 1hr
Break: 30+ minsI should of mentioned before, in the example I wouldn’t be clocking off after the 30+ min break. I’d still be working anything up to a 15 hour day after that.
starting at 6am and doing a 15 hour shift would mean that there are at least 7 hours remaining after the 30 min break and if all those hours are either other work or driving then the 6 hour break rule would be exceeded and cause an infringement
The rest of the day would have included all the reverent breaks to be legal. The only problem is the initial first 15 minutes
LR18-8:
The rest of the day would have included all the reverent breaks to be legal. The only problem is the initial first 15 minutes
Then legally you have done nothing wrong
Company policy depends on what is written in your contract
If its a company policy infringement then only sign for that and make sure it states that it is not a legal infringement
I assume you are taking 15 mins and 30 mins dead as shown on your tacho? If so take at least 18 and 33 mins as this will cover your ■■■ in case you are cutting it a bit too short. Just because they say take only 45 mins a day it does not mean thats the maximum you have to take and to be honest the law always states minimum’s.
I’ve argued with my DCPC trainer that you only need 15 minutes after 6 hours work but he won’t have it. The problem is the regs sheet isn’t 100% convincing (to them at least, we know better) so showing them that is pointless.
As has been said, if you’re on the clock then stop for a 30. Their loss is your gain. But if it suited me and/or I wanted to get home I’d be taking a 15.
Terry T:
I’ve argued with my DCPC trainer that you only need 15 minutes after 6 hours work but he won’t have it. The problem is the regs sheet isn’t 100% convincing (to them at least, we know better) so showing them that is pointless.As has been said, if you’re on the clock then stop for a 30. Their loss is your gain. But if it suited me and/or I wanted to get home I’d be taking a 15.
It clearly states the 15 minute WTD break after 6 hours work in my Manager CPC notes (which are spot on legislation-wise). Indeed this point is often examined upon in Manager CPC case study exams where delegates are expected to construct a legal driving schedule taking all breaks as late as possible & for the minimum time allowed.