Inequality in our workplace

Please read if you value your UK driving licence.
Did you know that the current UK driving licence legislations for ONLY UK LICENCE HOLDERS discriminates against all UK drivers, and in my opinion your human right of equality in the EU?
A UK driving licence holder if caught speeding, a slightly defective tyre or any other offence that involves points being put on your licence which there are many of, will result in the following:
All UK drivers:
3 points of more being put on your licence for 4 years, 3 of which are for court purposes a further year is put on so as your insurance company can hike your premium to get a further extra year from you, total including fine over 4 years is around £600, if you are an LGV driver this will also include most British haulage companies not wishing to employ you, which effects your income and thus punishes not only you but your family and your children go without, total loss £600 +.
EU drivers living and working in the UK:
No points on your licence for ANY offence as nearly all EU drivers don’t have this facility on their licence, EU regulations does not permit it, UK GOVERNMENT OPTED OUT OF THIS IN 2011 STATING IT CUREENT EU REGULATIONS DOES NOT PUNISH ENOUGH SO IT WANTS TO PUNISH ITS UK DRIVERS MORE SEE LINK AND THEY DO NOT WISH TO INCURR THE COST OF IMPLEMENTING THE EU LEGISLATION (TO SAVE MONEY) gov.uk/government/speeches/ … oad-safety
So the total cost to our EU neighbours living and working alongside us £100 fine if they want to pay up, 0 points, £0 extra on their insurance, and if you are an EU LGV driver plying your trade in Great Britain yes you heard me right Great Britain but only if you hold an EU driving licence.
A much better chance of employment over your UK counterpart, ask most of the big companies that employ LGV drivers why nearly 90% of their drivers are not British, it’s not because they are better drivers, but because they don’t have the added baggage of a UK points orientated driving licence, which equates to cheaper insurance oh look we are back to insurance again who have got the UK government to add that extra years point, is it really rip off Britain?
I have asked for help on this matter from Willie Coffee MSP (no further action) and Alex Salmond First minister (with not even a reply, he is getting good at that these days) I will now approach UK MPs, I would urge you to email your local MP and push for EU rules acceptance, please share this message.

wrong info.99 pecent drivers who come to work in Uk have Uk full driving licence.because not one agency give job .company insurance not allow drive if drivers have Europian country licence.some people who just come to England can t exchangde because if he here less for 1 years or 6 month DVLA dont give full UK licence just give him some EU counterparty licence.and if anythink police can give point.
can you show which agency give job if drivers have EU licence.may be some small transport company ,becasuse they can change insurance more easy and cheap.

I want an ‘EU licence’ too, sick of all the UK bs…:smiling_imp:

DVLA simply create a ‘ghost’ licence for EU licence holders and the convictions go on that. When in the UK any points or convictions on the ghost licence are valid for that person.

My firm won’t let any driver start without a UK licence.

Derf:
DVLA simply create a ‘ghost’ licence for EU licence holders and the convictions go on that. When in the UK any points or convictions on the ghost licence are valid for that person.

Does the TM have access to that info when an application for a job is applied for by a non UK licence holder?

Realy dont give a ■■■■! I have a full time job on half decent pay
I will always have or get a job no matter how many foreign workers the uk have,
Why? Because I dont cry about what everyone else is doing and get on with my own life and am always willing to work to earn money and dont expect everythibg on a plate!

Inequality in the work place has always been around as long as paid employment in one way or another

Too many foreigners! Maybe but theres also too many home grown whingers with a cause to crusade
Heres a thought go to work and earn your money. work hard and if you want to, try and better yourself.
Dont blame other people or situations for your own short comings :wink:

Aaaaaaand breathe :grimacing:

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Although I agree with your post SMIGGS the one point I took from it relates to personal insurance. As we know, insurance companies use the points system to raise premiums as they believe you may be a bigger risk. If the UK was in line with the EU here, this couldn’t be done. Unfortunatley, insurance being insurance, they’d just clobber everyone with higher premiums instead of the select few.

smiggs:
Realy dont give a [zb]! I have a full time job on half decent pay
I will always have or get a job no matter how many foreign workers the uk have,
Why? Because I dont cry about what everyone else is doing and get on with my own life and am always willing to work to earn money and dont expect everythibg on a plate!

Inequality in the work place has always been around as long as paid employment in one way or another

Too many foreigners! Maybe but theres also too many home grown whingers with a cause to crusade
Heres a thought go to work and earn your money. work hard and if you want to, try and better yourself.
Dont blame other people or situations for your own short comings :wink:

Aaaaaaand breathe :grimacing:

Everything he said ^^^^

There still are decent driving jobs to be had you wont find them down the job centre or sending of cvs to firms you have found on google. Same as those who say there are no jobsno more just agencey. Im in my 14th year of hgv driving and have never worked for an agency and im sure theres people witg years more experince the same.
Its the same as when people say i wont work for x amount. If i needed a job i would as its better than the dole and its easier to get another job if you are employed.

There is no such thing as a ghost licence they talk about it but there is no such thing I am 53 and I bet it doesn’t ever appear till after I retire

I get round this loophole by doing my level best to not get points on my licence. Means staying within the law at all times but its a risk I’m willing to take.

Welcome to the forum Jim, you’ll fit in with many here.

Snudger:
Welcome to the forum Jim, you’ll fit in with many here.

Think it was just a one off appearance while he waited for his mum to wash his pillow case with the eye holes in!

From what I see it works both ways, which means we don’t get fined if we’re caught by cameras, in other parts of Europe and even if we did have it, it would only mean fines for foreign vehicle owners not points on their licence.
I also can’t see anything about an EU licence more an agreement for different govenments to give details of vehicle owners to other governments.

I believe you can still be fined in the UK if you’re stopped at the time of committing a driving offence, the same as we can get fined for committing an offence in another EU country.

Total bs.There’s no such thing as an EU licence.Every licence is issued by the holder’s country of residence.As such it’s subject to all the conditions concerning penalties in the country of issue but not anywhere outside the place of issue except in the case of where reciprocal agreements apply such as Spain and France.

Luckily for anyone who drives on the continent using a uk licence,the UK opted out of such a reciprocal penalty system,which means that we won’t lose our licence or get points for exceeding the ridiculous French speed limits with a uk reg car for example whereas with a truck it makes no difference because the limiter settings are all the same.

In the case of EU drivers residing and working in another EU state then their licence has to be surrendered and changed for a local issue one.In the case which you describe that would be a UK licence subject to the UK penalty system for offences committed in the UK being the country of issue.

What you’re calling for is for the UK to get involved with a federal reciprocal penalty system in which UK resident drivers,using a UK licence,would end up subject to points and bans for driving offences committed in other EU states outside the UK.Which is actually what the French are calling for. :unamused:

ive got flowers on my cab curtains … :smiley:

4aaaa4dd:
ive got flowers on my cab curtains … :smiley:

I’ve got Volvo on mine. Trouble is I drive a Scania (joking)

Carryfast:
Total bs.There’s no such thing as an EU licence.Every licence is issued by the holder’s country of residence.As such it’s subject to all the conditions concerning penalties in the country of issue but not anywhere outside the place of issue except in the case of where reciprocal agreements apply such as Spain and France.

Luckily for anyone who drives on the continent using a uk licence,the UK opted out of such a reciprocal penalty system,which means that we won’t lose our licence or get points for exceeding the ridiculous French speed limits with a uk reg car for example whereas with a truck it makes no difference because the limiter settings are all the same.

In the case of EU drivers residing and working in another EU state then their licence has to be surrendered and changed for a local issue one.In the case which you describe that would be a UK licence subject to the UK penalty system for offences committed in the UK being the country of issue.

What you’re calling for is for the UK to get involved with a federal reciprocal penalty system in which UK resident drivers,using a UK licence,would end up subject to points and bans for driving offences committed in other EU states outside the UK.Which is actually what the French are calling for. :unamused:

I didn’t ever think I’d ever say it, but what Carryfast says above is the correct information!