My thoughts go out to all of drummer rigbys friends and family,such a sad time for them all.RIP.
To be honest I wasn’t even shocked by this, I herd it on the news and just watched the story unfold whilst I was emotionless, and that’s sad because that is just the world we live in today and nothing will change ever.
I was with my mates in Streatham last night and a fella pulled a blade on someone across the road from us. Pathetic.
We can talk it to death all we want but until criminals start to fear our government and the justice system then this is just another day in the jungle I’m afraid.
I love my country and I’m proud, but we are weak and we are a walk over and we are laughed at all over the world.
FarnboroughBoy11:
To be honest I wasn’t even shocked by this, I herd it on the news and just watched the story unfold whilst I was emotionless, and that’s sad because that is just the world we live in today and nothing will change ever.
I was with my mates in Streatham last night and a fella pulled a blade on someone across the road from us. Pathetic.
We can talk it to death all we want but until criminals start to fear our government and the justice system then this is just another day in the jungle I’m afraid.
I love my country and I’m proud, but we are weak and we are a walk over and we are laughed at all over the world.
^ + a million!
In respect of the average criminal in this country, they don’t seem to be concerned at all about the consequences of their actions, on themselves or their victims. The police are seen as weak and the judge’s and lawyers live in their ivory towers in the best parts of town where they see little crime.
Until we see some harsher punitive sentences for them, nothing will change.
For these fanatics, stopping them being radicalised in the first place would be a start.
I was watching this on the news and they interviewed some guys that went to school with these 2 and all said the same, unassuming normal every day blokes that mixed well and had no known hang ups of any description, be it race, religion etc. They obviously got indoctrinated and the rest is history, I am sure that both of them will slowly revert back to the way they were over the years in prison and hopefully will be haunted day and night by what they did.
Unfortunately none of this is of any help to the poor man who died or his family and friends who will continue to suffer.
JLS Driver SOS:
They obviously got indoctrinated and the rest is history, I am sure that both of them will slowly revert back to the way they were over the years in prison and hopefully will be haunted day and night by what they did.I read somewhere that some of our prisons are a breeding ground for radicalisation of some of the inmates
Seems this young lad may have been targeted by the wearing of a ‘Help for Heroes’ T shirt.‘Help for Heroes’ a charity set up because our Government willingly sent our
service men and women into battle but refused to adequately care for them when they came home damaged physically and mentally.Time we all became radicalised
into demanding a Government for the people instead of the self serving scum we have to put up with today.
philberg182:
JLS Driver SOS:
They obviously got indoctrinated and the rest is history, I am sure that both of them will slowly revert back to the way they were over the years in prison and hopefully will be haunted day and night by what they did.I read somewhere that some of our prisons are a breeding ground for radicalisation of some of the inmates
The fact is the so called ‘radicals’ are just reverting to their natural genetic programming according to their natural geographic location and place in the world.While the indigenous population is called racist for just wanting that natural order re established in the form of this is our place in the world.
The problem is actually caused by,and is the result of,the third lot,those being the socialist indoctrinated integrationist dreamers,who are trying to force their bs integrationist agenda on both groups.In just the same way that Tito tried to do exactly the same thing in the old Yugoslavia with the inevitable results in the long term. 
Which is why the government is ordering the army to shoot the natives in Asia who obviously don’t want to follow western values.While that same government is allowing those same natives to live here with inevitable results and arresting any of the indigenous population who disagree with the whole bs situation.On the basis of so called ‘racism’ in the case of the indigenous population,and so called ‘terrosrism’ in the case of those foreign natives. 
Armagedon:
Seems this young lad may have been targeted by the wearing of a ‘Help for Heroes’ T shirt.‘Help for Heroes’ a charity set up because our Government willingly sent our
service men and women into battle but refused to adequately care for them when they came home damaged physically and mentally.Time we all became radicalised
into demanding a Government for the people instead of the self serving scum we have to put up with today.
The real question is exactly what are they being sent into battle for and to what end.The fact is the government are trying to cover up the true level of hostility in the immigrant communities to integration into western society because it knows that it’s immigration policies have already been torn apart.But the government,together with all other loony left socialist integrationist dreamers,are too frightened to admit it.
Why were they sent into battle,why has Tony Blair made millions since leaving office,didn’t he send them obviously his ‘cronies’ had their reasons for war and he fulfilled.
A mate of mine is a prison officer at a maximum security Cat A prison. This is what he told me recently. When these extremists are locked up, they mix with other extremists, they have also been known to be segregated from the rest of the prisoners for their own safety. They have also complained that the prison officers will not take their footwear off when entering their cells, as it is now their place of prayer.
I was utterly appauled by the incident in Woolwich, and could not believe it would happen in broad daylight. Yes, the security services do miss some of the scum, but with so many threats going on, they assess people on risk, and these scum were not deemed to be a major threat.
Whatever the comments on here and other places,it doesn’t take much intelligence to realise that our Government today is terrified of the Moo slims.
As for the link to the Defence Discount card. Had mine about 6 months. Good thing to have…
Carryfast:
philberg182:
JLS Driver SOS:
They obviously got indoctrinated and the rest is history, I am sure that both of them will slowly revert back to the way they were over the years in prison and hopefully will be haunted day and night by what they did.I read somewhere that some of our prisons are a breeding ground for radicalisation of some of the inmates
The fact is the so called ‘radicals’ are just reverting to their natural genetic programming according to their natural geographic location and place in the world.While the indigenous population is called racist for just wanting that natural order re established in the form of this is our place in the world.
The problem is actually caused by,and is the result of,the third lot,those being the socialist indoctrinated integrationist dreamers,who are trying to force their bs integrationist agenda on both groups.In just the same way that Tito tried to do exactly the same thing in the old Yugoslavia with the inevitable results in the long term.
Which is why the government is ordering the army to shoot the natives in Asia who obviously don’t want to follow western values.While that same government is allowing those same natives to live here with inevitable results and arresting any of the indigenous population who disagree with the whole bs situation.On the basis of so called ‘racism’ in the case of the indigenous population,and so called ‘terrosrism’ in the case of those foreign natives.
This ^^^^
Ever wondered why different countries exist? Different cultures and peoples living in different places?
It’s because if they don’t they end up hating each other. Immigration will only work with integration and unfortunately that very rarely happens.
Add to that the use of religion to erroneously justify barbaric terrorism and you have a recipe for disaster.
Truckulent:
Carryfast:
philberg182:
JLS Driver SOS:
They obviously got indoctrinated and the rest is history, I am sure that both of them will slowly revert back to the way they were over the years in prison and hopefully will be haunted day and night by what they did.I read somewhere that some of our prisons are a breeding ground for radicalisation of some of the inmates
The fact is the so called ‘radicals’ are just reverting to their natural genetic programming according to their natural geographic location and place in the world.While the indigenous population is called racist for just wanting that natural order re established in the form of this is our place in the world.
The problem is actually caused by,and is the result of,the third lot,those being the socialist indoctrinated integrationist dreamers,who are trying to force their bs integrationist agenda on both groups.In just the same way that Tito tried to do exactly the same thing in the old Yugoslavia with the inevitable results in the long term.
Which is why the government is ordering the army to shoot the natives in Asia who obviously don’t want to follow western values.While that same government is allowing those same natives to live here with inevitable results and arresting any of the indigenous population who disagree with the whole bs situation.On the basis of so called ‘racism’ in the case of the indigenous population,and so called ‘terrosrism’ in the case of those foreign natives.
This ^^^^
Ever wondered why different countries exist? Different cultures and peoples living in different places?
It’s because if they don’t they end up hating each other. Immigration will only work with integration and unfortunately that very rarely happens.
Add to that the use of religion to erroneously justify barbaric terrorism and you have a recipe for disaster.
Integration is actually just an impossible socialist dream that,probably,rightly,goes against all the laws of nature.What our government has done is exactly the same mistake as the socialist idiot Tito tried to do at home,and the Russian government tried to do in Afghanistan,and failed.Then to add insult to injury,just like them,it’s trying to do it at the point of a gun or threat of arrest in the case of anyone who doesn’t agree.
The strange thing is why two of the countries that supposedly stood/stand against everything that communism/socialism stands for is doing excatly what would be expected of that type of ideology in regards to following an ethnic inetegrationist agenda both in terms of domestic and foreign policies. 
It’s time our so called self appointed dictatorial leaders started to realise that neither the foreign communities nor the indigenous one want integration in whatever form.Whereas the different ethnic groups living in their own geographic areas is actually the idea of multi culturalism,as opposed to integration,taken to it’s logical natural conclusion.As such it’s obviously wrong to shoot people in their own foreign countries for following their own ideologies in just the same way that it’s wrong to allow those foreign communities to live here and expecting them and the indigenous one to integrate.
The government knows that and is now trying,and failing,to deal with the symptoms rather than the cause.Because fixing the cause would mean an admission that it’s whole immigration and foreign policy has been wrong for years and having to face up to and think ( what to the government is the unthinkable ) concerning the issues of closing the borders to further immigration and the repatriation of the immigrant communities that are already here.Together with a change in citizenship rules from one based on place of birth to one based on descent and ethnicity.No doubt the socialists would be shouting ‘racism’ in regards to any policy which doesn’t match their bs integrationist agenda.
I sort of agree with sime of that the muslim people from the indian subcontinent and african people in general have done the least to intigrate than any ever ethnic group.
However with this repatriation idea whos going as my dads irish and mrs kr79s grandad is latvian jew who escaped during the war so where are we going
kr79:
I sort of agree with sime of that the muslim people from the indian subcontinent and african people in general have done the least to intigrate than any ever ethnic group.
However with this repatriation idea whos going as my dads irish and mrs kr79s grandad is latvian jew who escaped during the war so where are we going
It’s obvious that there’s going to be plenty of exceptions that prove the rule.In the case of Irish immigration,of which like you I’ve also got some connection through a grandparent,and European refugees from Hitler’s onslaught on the jews,it’s a combination of the numbers issue and the fact that the European jewish culture is probably more compatible with ours, and the fact that the Celtic ehnic group is in fact as native to the British Isles as the Anglo Saxons if not moreso because the Celts were here first.
However that’s not the same thing as the present socialist bs policy of allowing mass immigration,involving massive numbers,from the totally alien,imcompatible,and often hostile Asian and African populations who’s views and standards are ( rightly ) based on that which apply in their own countries not ours.While the commie hypocrites then send our troops out to shoot those natives in their own lands for just being who they are while at the same time allowing them in here and calling anyone in the indigenous community who disagrees with that racist while calling those immigrant communities so called ‘radicals’ because they inevitably ( rightly ) want to keep to their own cultures rather than integrate with ours.That’s obviously now reached the inevitable and predictable point where those alien cultures in many cases see the indigenous community as the being hostile and alien to them in their view.IE we’re the infidel foreigners in our own country.Which just leaves the question of wether they,as in this case,deal with that using violent methods,or peacefully using democratic ones ( to start with ) when you can bet that they would then revert to their typically violent ways if/when the indigenous population ends up in local and/or eventually a national minority v the immigrant community majority.The inconvenient issue for the socialist tossers,who are the cause of the whole mess,is that thay can use the force of arrest on grounds of so called ‘racism’,in the case of those in the indigenous communities not wanting to allow the formation of such localised immigrant majorities in the first place by not allowing them in.But their bs racism laws can’t stop the indigenous communities from moving out as the immigrant ones move in.No doubt the issue of so called ‘white flight’ will be next on the socialists agenda by the removal of the freedom for the indigenous community to do even that without being arrested and branded as ‘racist’ for their bs integrationist agenda to be able to continue.
Just like all those misguided socialists you seem to be under the false illusion that integration is a good thing when in fact it goes against all the laws of nature and is actually the opposite of multi culturalism which the socialists say is their aim.
Nature has in fact sorted out the idea of multi culturalism for us which is why it put all the different ethnic groups and cultures on different parts of the planet.Which is how it should stay.
Im not particualy for or against immigration but am against what we have and have had in the last 10 to 15 years which is been swamped by immigration.
I dont imagine some kind of blarite utopia been great with white kids speaking fluent chinese and black kids speaking urdu all playing football together whike a polish ban walks through regents park with his ugandan wife.
The fact is most people whatever there background tend to mix and form relationships with people who are similar thats human nature.
The only people for it are the middle classes who tell people about the wonderful morrocan cafe thats opened nearby and how wonderful the cous cous is and how friendly the livley waitress is and they have a cheap polish gardner.
Saying that one if my best mates mums irish dads a turkis cypriot but hes my mate becase hes a decent fella not because of his ethnic background.