Come back Enoch Powell,you got it right mate!
Some other people saw it coming!
Winston Churchill 1899.
“Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.”
CHURCHILL ON ISLAM
The speech below was written in 1899… (check Wikipedia - The River War).
The attached short speech from Winston Churchill, was delivered by him in 1899 when he was a young soldier and journalist. It probably sets out the current views of many, but expresses in the wonderful Churchillian turn of phrase and use of the English language, of which he was a master. Sir Winston Churchill was, without doubt, one of the greatest men of the late 19th and 20th centuries.
He was a brave young soldier, a brilliant journalist, an extraordinary politician and statesman, a great war leader and British Prime Minister, to whom the Western world must be forever in his debt. He was a prophet in his own time. He died on 24th January 1965, at the grand old age of 90 and, after a lifetime of service to his country, was accorded a State funeral.
HERE IS THE SPEECH:
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome …"
Churchill saw it coming…
Is this what our government should be doing?
I NEVER KNEW THIS ABOUT JAPAN …
Have you ever read in the newspaper that a political leader or a prime minister from an Islamic nation has visited Japan ?
Have you ever come across news that the Ayatollah of Iran or the King of Saudi Arabia or even a Saudi Prince has visited Japan ?
Japan is a country keeping Islam at bay. Japan has put strict restrictions on Islam and ALL Muslims.
The reasons are :
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Japan is the only nation that does not give citizenship to Muslims.
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In Japan permanent residency is not given to Muslims.
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There is a strong ban on the propagation of Islam in Japan.
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In the University of Japan , Arabic or any Islamic language is not taught.
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One cannot import a ‘Koran’ published in the Arabic language.
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According to data published by the Japanese government, it has given temporary residency to only 2 lakhs, Muslims, who must follow the Japanese Law of the Land. These Muslims should speak Japanese and only carry on their religious rituals in their homes.
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Japan is the only country in the world that has a negligible number of embassies in Islamic countries.
Japanese people are not attracted to Islam at all.
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Muslims residing in Japan are the employees of foreign companies.
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Even today, visas are not granted to Muslim doctors, engineers or managers sent by foreign companies.
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In the majority of companies it is stated in their regulations that no Muslims should apply for a job.
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The Japanese government is of the opinion that Muslims are fundamentalist and even in the era of globalization they are not willing to change their Muslim laws.
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Muslims cannot even think about renting a house in Japan .
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If anyone comes to know that his neighbour is a Muslim then the whole neighborhood stays alert.
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No one can start an Islamic cell or Arabic ‘Madrasa’ in Japan.
There is no Sharia law in Japan .
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If a Japanese woman marries a Muslim then she is considered an outcast forever.
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According to Mr. Kumiko Yagi, Professor of Arab/Islamic Studies at Tokyo University of Foreign Studies , “There is a mind frame in Japan that Islam is a very narrow minded religion and one should stay away from it.”
My estimation of the Japanese has risen dramatically !
VERY SMART PEOPLE !
mickyblue:
Whirlwind:
Monarch of the highway nobody has been disrespectful to the dead soldier or his family , this isn’t facebook .
Mickeyblue I thought I read somewhere that your an ex police officer , I’ll take it back since a pc or ex pc would know that 1st degree murder carries a mandatory life sentence.I think “he will get 10 years but only do 5” is only an example. How do you know what he would get. There was an article, and I know it’s nothing compared to Lee’s death, but it was about an Asian lad (18) who had raped a 13 year old and was spared jail due to “Not knowing it was wrong to ■■■■ a girl of 13” and blamed his schooling. Judge let him off and just gave him a 2 year suspended sentence.
He will get a large sentence trust me, I will give you another example for you to why I think he would.
A gent murders another bloke on a street and get’s 15 years. - No public interest in that
The bloke who murdered Tia Green the young girl from Croydon (Hometown) gets 38 years which means he will die inside (Good thing) - He had the whole town on his back and due to high pressure of public interest he get’s to spend the rest of his life inside.
Now this pants about being ex PC blah blah blah. PC’s are out to catch them. It’s down to the overpaid judges to sentence them not the PC’s
I agree with pretty much every word , and I understood your example but it was ■■■■ poor example to use. There will be people now who won’t read the whole thread but will have seen an ex copper say them men will be free in 5 years , Those people will be in pubs telling friends and that gets the attention of groups like EDL .
Whole ex pc blah blah blah was humour from earlier post .
bestbooties:
Some other people saw it coming!
■■■■■■■■ about Japan & Islam heavily snipped.
You are heavily quoting fake info that once happened to go viral.
Almost everything you have copied & pasted about Japan’s attitude to Islam is wrong or misrepresented, a quick Google on the subject will bring up the truth.
There is a lot of talk about immigration on this post, the scumbags who did this were both born in Britain to respected parents. There are a lot of answers to be found yet as to who knew them and what they were planning, but they turned to Islam later in life after a Christian upbringing.
My opinion is, Lee Rigby wasn’t targeted. I think he was just a good soldier in the wrong place. Very sad, very bad!
Wheel Nut:
There is a lot of talk about immigration on this post, the scumbags who did this were both born in Britain to respected parents. There are a lot of answers to be found yet as to who knew them and what they were planning, but they turned to Islam later in life after a Christian upbringing.My opinion is, Lee Rigby wasn’t targeted. I think he was just a good soldier in the wrong place. Very sad, very bad!
Until people get out of the stupid mindset,that being born here makes the immigrant communities,who are involved in this issue,British rather than what they are in being ethnic African or Asian in other cases,and who view themselves as such,only playing the born here makes them British card when it suits them,this type of thing will be an increasing fact of life for the indigenous community as the immigrant communities increase in numbers.
While the irony,stupidity and hypocricy of the uk government,in shooting these people in their own back yards,while at the same time letting them in to live here and then to add insult to injury call them British,while calling anyone who disagrees with such stupid immigration policies ‘racist’,makes the uk government just as much to blame as the so called ‘terrorists’,who are really behaving no differently here as would be expected when they’re in their own place.The difference being this is where we’re supposed to live while leaving them to live where they’re supposed to live.Which is why nature put us all on different parts of the planet.
The present uk government immigration policy is nothing more than a bs communist type integrationist agenda of the type which Tito tried to impose in the old Yugoslavia and we all know how that turned out. 
The answer to the problem is clear we should stop sending the army out to shoot the natives in places like Afghanistan etc where they belong just because they want to follow a different path and values to us.While at the same time get them out of here where they don’t belong.
If someone is born here, where are you going to send them?
You sound like my sister in law. “I am English but I am not British.”
Although I do agree we should stop shooting the natives in their own back yards, we have been warmongers for far too long!
I’m not sure what the answer is to the problem of people being radicalised. These two were British born (I believe) so the immigration issue per se isn’t really an issue in this case.
You can watch people jetting off to Pakistan to be radicalised but what if its happening inside British mosques? I suppose sorting the likes of a certain radical cleric who we currently can’t return to Jordan could be a start. If I was PM I would be saying to the Home Secretary “Get a van, get someone to drive to the prison, get him out and get him on a plane out of here!” Stuff the human rights court, just do it!
David Cameron hasn’t done that, he seems too scared of the courts. I’m just not sure what would have to happen to force him to do that. These terrorists are laughing a us, paying for legal fees for them, housing them in luxury which as much legal redress as they want. It just makes me so angry!!
bazza123:
I’m not sure what the answer is to the problem of people being radicalised. These two were British born (I believe) so the immigration issue per se isn’t really an issue in this case.You can watch people jetting off to Pakistan to be radicalised but what if its happening inside British mosques? I suppose sorting the likes of a certain radical cleric who we currently can’t return to Jordan could be a start. If I was PM I would be saying to the Home Secretary “Get a van, get someone to drive to the prison, get him out and get him on a plane out of here!” Stuff the human rights court, just do it!
David Cameron hasn’t done that, he seems too scared of the courts. I’m just not sure what would have to happen to force him to do that. These terrorists are laughing a us, paying for legal fees for them, housing them in luxury which as much legal redress as they want. It just makes me so angry!!
The cleric should not be here, he isn’t British, although he is allegedly a criminal and has been accused (but not charged) for inciting racial hatred
Wheel Nut:
If someone is born here, where are you going to send them?
To the country where they belong based on descent not place of birth IE jus sanguinis not our bs system of lex soli.I’m just waiting to hear that idea called racist.In which case that would make many civilised countries throughout the world racist.
It doesn’t take a genius to work out that Nigeria would be at least one of the countries in question in this case. 
Wheel Nut:
Although I do agree we should stop shooting the natives in their own back yards, we have been warmongers for far too long!
As I remember it the army wouldn’t be shooting the natives in their own back yard in this case if those natives weren’t involved in trying to get us in ours.The answer is simple leave them alone to live in their place where they belong and likewise stop the bs communist integrationist idea of allowing them to live in ours.
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
If someone is born here, where are you going to send them?To the country where they belong based on descent not place of birth IE jus sanguinis not our bs system of lex soli.I’m just waiting to hear that idea called racist.In which case that would make many civilised contries throughout the world racist.
It doesn’t take a genius to work out that Nigeria would be at least one of the countries in question in this case.
Yes we used to use that system in Yorkshire, if someone married outside the village we would throw them in the duck pond, if they survived that we set fire to them. 
monarch of the highway:
Whirlwind:
neilg14:
Whirlwind, of course the death penalty is a deterrent.
Killing these 2 would deter them from doing it again.
As for them staying in prison for the rest of their natural, that’s just laughable, it won’t happen and you know it.
The public are not stupid but they are sick to death of things like this happening.
You carry on in your PC world, all sitting round in a cicle singing Kumbya.In which country is there zero murders because of the death penalty? ?
Ofc they will die in prison as they are BRITISH , I would agree with you if it wasn’t for that fact.
There is no one singing kumbya in my circle because I live in a realist circle that doesn’t jump on bandwagons when 1 man is killed , shame no bandwagons were jumped on when our soldiers were killing iraqi and Afghanistan citizens. . If our government didn’t poke their noses in we wouldn’t even be discussing this topic
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one man wasnt killed he was murdered in cold blood on british soil and as for jumping on the bandwaggon i simply think if you were trully english n proud you wudnt make such a comment R I P rigby
As these two countries you bang on about are on different continents and we invited the Nigerians to live here, nay not invited, we sent ships to pick them up, long before William Wilberforce spoke out, long before Mr Powell was misquoted so badly… The Nigerian parents of these scum may well have had more right to live here than you.
Anyway, this thread is in respect of Lee Rigby, a drummer and a soldier who was murdered on his way to work. shall we keep it this way?
Respect
RIP Drummer Rigby
a friend posted this on facebook
What happened to the British soldier was tragic, but not Islams fault. Two Muslims attacked him and will get their penance (one hopes). A white man gunned down all of those innocent children in Connecticut. Dale Cregan committed numerous murder offences most recently in this country. The sheer anger towards Muslims on a whole is disturbing. These guys butchered a British hero for one purpose - to create a divide in our nation. Some of the stuff ive read over the past few days from statuses/tweets/media makes me ashamed to be British. Way to go play into their hands and make the purpose of this tragedy a success for these scumbags.
Feelings over immigrants, our benefit system and culture clashes (right or wrong) are completely irrelevant to a sole act of barbarity.
I feel that what he said could be true.
We should not lower our selves to their level.
Rise above and be proud to be British.
Wheel Nut:
As these two countries you bang on about are on different continents and we invited the Nigerians to live here, nay not invited, we sent ships to pick them up, long before William Wilberforce spoke out, long before Mr Powell was misquoted so badly… The Nigerian parents of these scum may well have had more right to live here than you.Anyway, this thread is in respect of Lee Rigby, a drummer and a soldier who was murdered on his way to work. shall we keep it this way?
Respect
+1
my point exactly R I P fellow drummer rigby
Wheel Nut:
Carryfast:
Wheel Nut:
If someone is born here, where are you going to send them?To the country where they belong based on descent not place of birth IE jus sanguinis not our bs system of lex soli.I’m just waiting to hear that idea called racist.In which case that would make many civilised contries throughout the world racist.
It doesn’t take a genius to work out that Nigeria would be at least one of the countries in question in this case.
Yes we used to use that system in Yorkshire, if someone married outside the village we would throw them in the duck pond, if they survived that we set fire to them.
To be fair that’s probably a bit before the type of immigration issues which we’re facing now concerning raving immigrants running around the place with all types of weapons just as if they are at home.Although it’s not surprising that maybe the villages of Yorkshire haven’t realised how bad tings are in other parts of the country yet.Let’s just say that it probably wouldn’t be advisable to go out fund raising for help for heroes in some areas. 
It’s obvious that if the government doesn’t change course in regards to the immigration issue things can only get ( much ) worse.While it doesn’t take a genius to realise that shooting the natives in Afghan etc,while continuing to let all their mates in to live here,and allowing all those already here to stay,will just add to that situation even more.
Wheel Nut:
As these two countries you bang on about are on different continents and we invited the Nigerians to live here, nay not invited, we sent ships to pick them up, long before William Wilberforce spoke out, long before Mr Powell was misquoted so badly… The Nigerian parents of these scum may well have had more right to live here than you.
What a surprise immigration based on cheap labour for the rich and no surprise either that if the indigenous community complain about it they’re branded as racists.But no British by descent doesn’t mean African regardless of how they got here.
The cowardly murder of this brave soldier has achieved just the opposite of what those evil pigs wanted, It has united Britain in a way the never expected, the army has had an 80% increase in applicants wanting to fight terrorists in the last week. Even British Islamic groups have condemned the murders as barbaric and evil, they expected their twisted buddies to come out on the streets and start a war that night, instead they have turned even their own religion against them.