OVLOV JAY:
Time to play the remainers at their own game!petition.parliament.uk/petitions/134345
Yes I know a leaver posted the original one, but share it out, and hope we can out do the hijacked one
i have signed it
andy187:
More info about Mr Healey here
Now I get it.He’s actually saying set a high bar for remain to win on the same basis I said the same.IE it needs to be a bleedin high bar to vote Nation out in favour of Federation. 
Although more like 90% not 60.
It’s just that he didn’t make that distinction clear.While no surprise the Federalist Bolsheviks would now want to take advantage of his justified position to reverse the Leave vote.To which the answer is zb off if they want to live in the EU go there.But don’t come grovelling back if/when the FN and AfD decide they don’t want them either.
Evil8Beezle:
Carryfast:
IE I really see these zb’s as eventually being as big a threat to Europe as the Soviet Union.So yes zb it let the army take her in as a subversive threat to National security too and giving the Scots of an offer they can’t refuse out the EU and a Confederal UK in which they get their sovereignty back thereby removing that problem.
Let me get this straight, as Fish Face doesn’t agree with the will of the British people, you want to remove her democratic rights to free speech and imprison her. Then you want to bribe/threaten the Scots into staying. Are you sure you’re not a communist?
That would depend if you view the BAOR as being Communists 
and if hypothetically locking up the local mayor because he was found to have sympathies with the zb Stasi would have been seen as denying his right of free speech. 
So no definitely a case of defence of the nation against the aggression/expansion/takeover of the Federation. 
On that note she’s actually standing for the EU Federation on a supposed Scottish ‘Nationalist’ ticket.If that ain’t subversion of the democratic system what is.
Winseer:
Munchkin:
Well, as they say a week is a long time in politics! This time last week I was argueing for the Remainers but today I’m urging the country to just get on with the Brexit plan. The only flaw there seems to be there was NO plan.Last week it looked like the Brexit campaign was pretty muck akin to English nationalism, which turned out to be a correct assumption. This week however it looks like the whole mess may be playing into the hands of my country’s nationalism. As I’m a Remainer who democratically accepted the result I’d just like to say to the whole cast of this comically sorry mess we’re in, just bloody get on with it!
As a matter of interest was anyone on here who spoke up for or lobbied for the Out campaign told there was no plan ?
farage and ukip had a plan and still have a plan but sadly no one asks them for help. they sure as hell would of got on with it as you call it. there certainly wouldnt be any ■■■■■ footing around over the free movement of people and the others sides would of known it loud and clear so a game of cat and mouse just wouldnt be happening, instead they would get down to brass taz and sort out a trade deal in double quick time instead of the trying not to step on toes policys that seems to be the order of the day at the moment
Winseer:
desypete:
Stanley Knife:
I just can’t understand why the Tories haven’t invited Farage & co into their preparations for exit. Experience of how the EU works internally, brash enough to fight against the establishment, forcing Cameron into a position whereby he felt he had to offer a referendum he didn’t want to, kicking the Establishment’s arse, causing mayhem in both Conservative and Labour party’s . . .Hmm, right, er probably just answered my own question there.
but one thing he has done is given the working people a feeling they can make a difference if they vote for it, its going to be interesting to see how the general election goes ? ukip got 4 millon votes last time i wonder after this if people might really show up at the vote box and really give the political correct lot a hell of a beating ?
i mean just look what both sides have done ? they have lost the plot,they cut ukip out of everything as they would as they dont like dealing with the real worldi can only hope ukip end up with a hell of a win at the general election, i can just see the speech made after it about how people laughed at ukip and they still do yet as you pointed out they have already caused so much in such a sort space of time
can you imagine a country with farage as pm ? i can only dream but i can not put anything past that man as i have full respect for him and his values but more so for his courage to stand up to all the laughing and finger pointing and keep plodding onUntil we actually have done brexit - Farage is Senior MEP in charge of our largest party IN that European parliament.
Cameron should already be deferring to him - rather than the other way around. He’s “Our man in Marrakech” after all.With Labour in a shambles right now - perhaps if a snap election were called, and UKIP field a candidate in EVERY SEAT currently containing a Remain MP as it stands - Labour, Tory, and Libdem. Let the nation decide if we need a proper Brexit government - by replacing every remainer with a UKIP candidate where necessary. Brexiteers get their seats uncontested by UKIP though.
If Labour are indeed to be “wiped out” as Blinkett warns - the rest of us might as well benefit from the spoils of that.
you have a very good point
i wonder what the outcome would be should the ukip candidate be up against a remain guy in each area ?
looking at the map of the vote result there was almost a wipe out of anyone who wanted to remain all over the northern areas and many south etc it would mean ukip would form the next government with a huge majority with only a few mps coming from the citys and other high political correct areas
but of course that would never happen would it ?
i look back now over the last few years and see just how well ukip had really done from the mep vote a couple of years ago to where they won everything in sight to this vote we took were the out won the day
i honestly dont know what is going to happen next but if the mps dont sit up take notice of the real mood of the country and stop pandering to those around them in there citys worlds then we might indeed wake up one day that farage is pm
not that it would bother me as i think we need somone like him to have the top job
like him or hate him he certainly delivers
i would even put farage up as a candidate for the England managers job and we would win the world cup with ease 
Winseer:
desypete:
Stanley Knife:
I just can’t understand why the Tories haven’t invited Farage & co into their preparations for exit. Experience of how the EU works internally, brash enough to fight against the establishment, forcing Cameron into a position whereby he felt he had to offer a referendum he didn’t want to, kicking the Establishment’s arse, causing mayhem in both Conservative and Labour party’s . . .Hmm, right, er probably just answered my own question there.
but one thing he has done is given the working people a feeling they can make a difference if they vote for it, its going to be interesting to see how the general election goes ? ukip got 4 millon votes last time i wonder after this if people might really show up at the vote box and really give the political correct lot a hell of a beating ?
i mean just look what both sides have done ? they have lost the plot,they cut ukip out of everything as they would as they dont like dealing with the real worldi can only hope ukip end up with a hell of a win at the general election, i can just see the speech made after it about how people laughed at ukip and they still do yet as you pointed out they have already caused so much in such a sort space of time
can you imagine a country with farage as pm ? i can only dream but i can not put anything past that man as i have full respect for him and his values but more so for his courage to stand up to all the laughing and finger pointing and keep plodding onUntil we actually have done brexit - Farage is Senior MEP in charge of our largest party IN that European parliament.
Cameron should already be deferring to him - rather than the other way around. He’s “Our man in Marrakech” after all.With Labour in a shambles right now - perhaps if a snap election were called, and UKIP field a candidate in EVERY SEAT currently containing a Remain MP as it stands - Labour, Tory, and Libdem. Let the nation decide if we need a proper Brexit government - by replacing every remainer with a UKIP candidate where necessary. Brexiteers get their seats uncontested by UKIP though.
If Labour are indeed to be “wiped out” as Blinkett warns - the rest of us might as well benefit from the spoils of that.
The fact is we’ve got a parliamentary electoral system based on ‘concentration’ of votes not numbers of votes.We’re in the position at the moment of the Parliamentary vote having a majority over the referendum vote.Because in terms of ‘concentration’ of votes not only did the remainers win it but they’ve also got the MP’s to back it.You can then add to that the fact that the remain MP’s are using the sovereignty of parliament to stand for a Federal agenda that wants to remove that sovereignty and hand it to Juncker etc.While the MEP system is based on less reliance on concentration of votes which gives UKIP a greater presecence in the European parliament where it is standing for power to be returned to the UK parliament because MEP’s have no real powers over the EU federal government system which is based on Commissioners.
IE a cluster zb of epic proportions.The end result being a referendum result for secession that can’t be implemented because the remain MP’s,including Cameron,outnumber the Leave MP’s and the Leave MP’s aren’t in a position of power even if they wanted to implement it and under our system of government never will be at least in the required majority.On that note I’ve reached the conclusion that karma for what we did in places like Ireland in putting down secession on the grounds of Federation over Nation is probably playing a part here and karma usually wins. 
Stanley Knife:
Evil8Beezle:
Tough talk (more posturing) from the EU.UK access to the EU’s single market requires freedom of movement.
All I’ve heard on the media is Remain voters desperate to stay in the Single Market. In order to do so we would have to accept Freedom of Movement. In that case wtf was the point of it all?! We cannot control our borders without curtailing Freedom of Movement.
All we need is a Free Trade Agreement without all the bureaucratic and banal regulations the EU loves. If we can’t have that then play hard ball for two years whilst Merkel has big business bashing her lug 'oles.
That’s if she wins the up-coming election, which doesn’t look like a safe bet.
Germany since it’s inception.(1840 ish ) has been the cause of 3 wars,and the loss of 10s of millions in its pursuit of dominance,and control of its neighbours…Do you think that they have learnt that they cannot do it by force but are using stealth,either way it looks like we’ve fxxx them again… Because slowly,by slowly they have changed the way and the purpose of what was intended by the treaty of Rome…in 1956…
Now if a country would be part of a group, it would get to argue about the rules, make decicio s about the rules, and possibly be big enough to get a veto option, to stop any one of the other countries from taking over…
Can you imagine any country having such a position, and then throwing it all away, in a hissy fit??
Wiretwister:
Stanley Knife:
Evil8Beezle:
Tough talk (more posturing) from the EU.UK access to the EU’s single market requires freedom of movement.
All I’ve heard on the media is Remain voters desperate to stay in the Single Market. In order to do so we would have to accept Freedom of Movement. In that case wtf was the point of it all?! We cannot control our borders without curtailing Freedom of Movement.
All we need is a Free Trade Agreement without all the bureaucratic and banal regulations the EU loves. If we can’t have that then play hard ball for two years whilst Merkel has big business bashing her lug 'oles.
That’s if she wins the up-coming election, which doesn’t look like a safe bet.
she could ask her younger sister for a job ,
One of the better ones doing the rounds
Mr Chaversdad. That is so so Fxxxx funny …glad I touched the link…Wonder If Merkel is throwing the same tantrum…fxxx me I’ve got to watch it again…
Boris: Juncker mi old pal, I think we should talk, good news all round. Brussels tomorrow for a chin wag?
Juncker: Yes, definitaley.
Next day in Brussels . . .
Boris: Right, Mr Juncker sir, we’ve had a bit of a think and we rather want this Single Market jobby, so you can have your Freedom of Movement wotsit. Where do I sign?
Juncker: Paperwork, paperwork, get the bloody paperwork, quick man! There you go Boris, I can call you Boris?
Boris: There you go Juncker mi old mate, all signed and done. You let us into the Single Market, we take all your gimmegrants and we pay you for the privelage.
Juncker rolls the signed paperwork up and heads for the door with a big grin on his face . . .
Boris: Er, one little thing Juncker, old pal. That’s just one half of the deal - it does point that out on page 12,865 . . . right at the bottom. That just gives us access to your market, we have a little bit of paperwork that will give you access to ours.
Juncker: Oh, right, what’s in it, what do you want?
Boris: 
In Fxxxxxg stitches after watching that [emoji23]
At what point should we tell them there “fifth reich” will fail to [emoji6]
Stanley Knife:
Boris: Juncker mi old pal, I think we should talk, good news all round. Brussels tomorrow for a chin wag?Juncker: Yes, definitaley.
Next day in Brussels . . .
Boris: Right, Mr Juncker sir, we’ve had a bit of a think and we rather want this Single Market jobby, so you can have your Freedom of Movement wotsit. Where do I sign?
Juncker: Paperwork, paperwork, get the bloody paperwork, quick man! There you go Boris, I can call you Boris?
Boris: There you go Juncker mi old mate, all signed and done. You let us into the Single Market, we take all your gimmegrants and we pay you for the privelage.
Juncker rolls the signed paperwork up and heads for the door with a big grin on his face . . .
Boris: Er, one little thing Juncker, old pal. That’s just one half of the deal - it does point that out on page 12,865 . . . right at the bottom. That just gives us access to your market, we have a little bit of paperwork that will give you access to ours.
Juncker: Oh, right, what’s in it, what do you want?
Boris:
If only Boris could be Farage with a UKIP Hoey led Labour co alition government behind him in power it might just have been true.
More BBC propaganda now pushing the new Star Trek film.Which no surprise contains a story line about the aggression of the evil anti federalists against the good federation.Which equally no surprise was then linked to the situation of Brexit v the EU.
Stalin would have been proud.
Ran 2 posts on the outcome of Brexit,well within order,which is a subject close to the hearts of all truckers… But the powers to be stop them after 4 replies…Do you think they who cannot be named voted remain.and are sore loses…
You do know that there’s a 38 page topic at the top of the page and plenty more elsewhere.Where to the site’s great credit we’re not exactly talking main stream media levels of control and bias.More like the only real voice of free Europe.
4 king Brilliant I reckon:-
Brain or Brawn which ever way you voted you have to laugh - biggest ■■■■ up in my lifetime
(Born 1947 Father was bomber command 10 sqaudron & fought for Europe)
Lol
I posted in mega thread…
also seen john oliver?
youtube.com/watch?v=UzY5mB1lCc0
adam hills? last leg ?